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MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) good
MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
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Posted 11 January 2007 - 03:22 PM

Just wanted everyone's opinion.....since everyone is talking about barton getting cut or hobson moving inside and so on.....i want to think there is a chance that schlegel can be something after working with mangini for 2-3 years. he is big, 6-1 251lbs., and around draft time mangini said the reason he drafted him at the time was that on a team w carpenter and hawk schlegel was still always at the bottom of the pile, always around the ball and it stood out on tape. I am not saying he is a star today, but NONE of us would have said cotchery would be what he is today and it shows what a killer work ethic in the offseason can do. All I am saying is that if mangini saw him as having a nose for the ball like he said he did right after the draft he may be a good young compliment to vilma in ILB core....opinions???..

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Posted 11 January 2007 - 03:37 PM

Or trade Vilma and move Mr. Schlegal right into his spot. beach.gif
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Posted 11 January 2007 - 03:59 PM

Weren't we all pretty high on Cotchery? Cotchery set records at NC State...breaking Tory Holt's old ones...Schlegel did nothing of the sort. Schlegel will find his way on the field on running downs and goal line situations similiar to Kassell. Let's just hope Schlegel is smart enough not to fall for the play fake on an incredibely obvious goal line pass play...
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Posted 11 January 2007 - 05:23 PM

QUOTE (SignalZero @ Jan 11 2007, 04:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Or trade Vilma and move Mr. Schlegal right into his spot. beach.gif

Even though Vilma doesnt fit the system i dont think Schlegal can do what Vilma can talent wise. Although Mangini does award good work ethics. During training camp mangini will watch him and see if he improves if he does he'll get more playing time i doubt he'll start he'll probably fill the role that Kassel and Chatam did this season.

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Posted 11 January 2007 - 05:49 PM

i think Schlegel might have been one of the few mistakes Mangini has made . it looks like he's becoming a project and at the price of a third round pick - that's a mistake .

a third round pick should be contributing right away and he was inactive most of the time . i think they outsmarted themselves here .

as far as this blather about trading Vilma : Vilma is a good football player and he's playing in a system now that is not a star system , so he's not going to have the stats or achieve the stardom that he showed before the 3-4 . also , don't compare the situation with Ray Lewis and the Ravens . Lewis had to have the recognition and he complained . Vilma is not that way and he's too good a player to trade .

trade Vilma and plug in Schlegel ? that is not going to happen .
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Posted 11 January 2007 - 06:32 PM

seriously, what is this trade vilma bs blowup.gif ughhhh! lets trade away the defensive leader and face of the franchise for what! hell why dont we trade coles away because of some over exaggeration of a comment he made, wait that already happened.... calm down everybody, the jets arent as stupid as theyve been in the past..... hopefully.
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Posted 12 January 2007 - 12:43 AM

how is vilma not a fit for the 3-4 but edwards is a pro bowler in it?

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Posted 12 January 2007 - 07:25 AM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Jan 12 2007, 01:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
how is vilma not a fit for the 3-4 but edwards is a pro bowler in it?

edwards 6-2, 227
vilma 6-1, 230

things that make you go hmmmm....
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Posted 12 January 2007 - 08:09 AM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Jan 12 2007, 01:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
how is vilma not a fit for the 3-4 but edwards is a pro bowler in it?

edwards 6-2, 227
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because Edwards has the best NT in the NFL, Jamal Williams
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 02:17 PM

QUOTE (DewayneDontSign @ Jan 12 2007, 05:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
because Edwards has the best NT in the NFL, Jamal Williams


thats my point. its not vilma. its like syaing edge sucks as a RB. its not his fault, he had no o-line. its not vilmas fault he slipped a little. its robertson
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 02:39 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Jan 13 2007, 02:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
thats my point. its not vilma. its like syaing edge sucks as a RB. its not his fault, he had no o-line. its not vilmas fault he slipped a little. its robertson


Even though you're right...I would just like to make a side note...beacuse I like D Rob...he's just in the wrong spot...

It's Kimo's fault and only D Rob's misfortune for not being in Kimo's position...I hope next year D Rob is a monster and pro bowler at DE.
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 04:14 PM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 13 2007, 12:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Even though you're right...I would just like to make a side note...beacuse I like D Rob...he's just in the wrong spot...

It's Kimo's fault and only D Rob's misfortune for not being in Kimo's position...I hope next year D Rob is a monster and pro bowler at DE.


me too i was yelling for the move all year. plus we'll have pohua, tui, moore, mosley, and possible free agents and draft picks. one fo those things has to amount to a decent NT. d-rob can be the DEwith ellis and we'd have some real beef on the line. with tui, drob, and ellis our line would average over 300lbs a piece
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 04:18 PM

i hate schegel another wasted round 3 pick, infact the eric smith pick makes schlegel look like a undrafted free agent.

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Posted 13 January 2007 - 04:37 PM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 13 2007, 03:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Even though you're right...I would just like to make a side note...beacuse I like D Rob...he's just in the wrong spot...

It's Kimo's fault and only D Rob's misfortune for not being in Kimo's position...I hope next year D Rob is a monster and pro bowler at DE.


D-ROB actually was probably the best D-lineman on the team and playing out of position no less .

the more you look at it the more you realize the JETS need to fortify the trenches , on both sides of the ball .

we'll see what Mangini comes up with . i'm guessing a better Right Tackle on O and an upgrade in size and quality with 2 guys to ROTATE with ELLIS anf ROBERTSON on D .

Or at least i hope they can accomplish that .
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 05:12 PM

its too early to call him a bust, but i don't like his potential
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 05:48 PM

QUOTE (penningtonpays @ Jan 13 2007, 04:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i hate schegel another wasted round 3 pick

Right...because, you've seen so much of him?
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 09:52 PM

QUOTE (VaNDelaYInDusTrIEs @ Jan 13 2007, 06:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Right...because, you've seen so much of him?



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Posted 14 January 2007 - 06:24 AM

how can you give up on a player after one year???
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Posted 14 January 2007 - 02:30 PM

You can't. Especially when you know nothing about him. It's not like he started every game and sucked. He barely played. He spent most of the season on the practice squad. It may have been a bit of a reach to take him in the 3rd, but it's definitely too early to call him a bust. Mangini must have seen something in him to take him that early, and hopefully he is grooming him. I expect him to make more of an impact next year.
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Posted 14 January 2007 - 03:48 PM

the guy could be the next teddy bruschi or mike vrabel or maybe the next brad kassell.......point is we'll never no because he never plays and how is it the vilma wasnt a success when he had more tackles than teddy bruschi and pro bowler jermiah trotter all while learning a new sytem and getting absolutely sucked in by the opponents offensive line because we dont have a true NT
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