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MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 08:59 AM) It's going to cost us 6 because we are going to have to outbid a bunch of teams
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Rb Dept. : Lamont Jordan . . . Anyone ? ? ?

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Post icon  Posted 22 January 2007 - 06:55 PM

hey guys ,
i'm here in san fran. for a few days , anyway ,
i was listening to the local radio sports shows.
they were talking about how the raiders MAY waive/cut LaMont Jordan ( salary cap issues , etc. ).

any takers ? ? . . . drinks.gif


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Posted 22 January 2007 - 06:59 PM

QUOTE (kelly @ Jan 22 2007, 07:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hey guys ,
i'm here in san fran. for a few days , anyway ,
i was listening to the local radio sports shows.
they were talking about how the raiders MAY waive/cut LaMont Jordan ( salary cap issues , etc. ).

any takers ? ? . . . drinks.gif


Nah, I'm glad with what we have, don't wanna go backward.
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Posted 22 January 2007 - 07:01 PM

I'd take him, depending on cash. If he'll come back here for a cheap price, I would welcome him back, otherwise no thanks if he's expensive.
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Posted 22 January 2007 - 07:04 PM

Im not so sure, because he has been injury prone lately, and I guess if Thomas Jones hits the UFA, and if we can land Turner, I rather have both of them then Jordan.
Though, if we had Jordan we would have a pretty good 1-2 punch with Washington and Jordan, and believe me, w/e we do in the offseason on getting a RB, this offense is still going to use Washington, he is too good of a back not to use. He is the homerun threat that we havent had in a while, the type of guy that makes gamechangeing plays, like with that 60 yard screen pass, and also that 40 yard one against the Bills that got our offense going. Leon Washington is a Gamebreaker!!
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Posted 22 January 2007 - 07:31 PM

We should at least consider it, especially if he wants to come back.
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Posted 22 January 2007 - 07:43 PM

id definitely take him...the power back to go with washington. we'd have a great inside/outside combo. i dont think his price would be too high since he hasnt really done much in oakland, due to injury and a pretty bad supporting cast. (offensive line, cant pass so opponents stack the box against the run etc.) he's also still 28 with almost no mileage on him. getting him would open up our options in a huge way come draft time.

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Posted 22 January 2007 - 07:45 PM

QUOTE (ellisjersey92 @ Jan 23 2007, 01:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
id definitely take him...the power back to go with washington. we'd have a great inside/outside combo. i dont think his price would be too high since he hasnt really done much in oakland, due to injury and a pretty bad supporting cast. (offensive line, cant pass so opponents stack the box against the run etc.) he's also still 28 with almost no mileage on him. getting him would open up our options in a huge way come draft time.


Yeah, why a team would cut a 28 year old is beyond me. Especially when he's not the problem for the team. They need offensive lineman, and a quarterback which they should be getting with their first pick. This franchise really has gotten stupid since making it to the superbowl that one year.
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Posted 22 January 2007 - 08:03 PM

If Leon Washington was the #1 all year long, he would have rushed for 1,000 +yds. I'd like to see him do it all year long. We could just draft a bruiser in the middle rounds to compliment him. Tangini said they wan't to build this team through the draft, and RB is a very important position obviously, so I think they do it through the draft. No Lamont return.




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Posted 22 January 2007 - 08:08 PM

yea if washington had started the whole year he may have got 1000 yards but it is also hard to say that he actually could carry the load. he has shared his carries almost his whole carrer...I dont think he can rush for 325+ times a year. that being said Id love to have lamont back . Jordan is a good back and rushed for 1000 with that awful line. Bring him back here with a better line and a better offense and id say he would be a very good back. Him and leon would be excellent. Although he has been injury prone a little i think its stupid for the raiders to cut him because like somone above me said...He is not the problem. Its hard to rush for yardage when no one is afraid of your pass and your O-line is awful....He is a good back and if the price is right id look into it...

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Posted 23 January 2007 - 06:38 AM

Yea I would definitely be stoked to see Lamont back in Green and White, but for some reason I just don't think Tangini will do it. I think Anthony Clement is a goner and the high profile player they grab will be a right tackle.




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Posted 23 January 2007 - 11:59 AM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 23 2007, 12:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Im not so sure, because he has been injury prone lately, and I guess if Thomas Jones hits the UFA, and if we can land Turner, I rather have both of them then Jordan.
Though, if we had Jordan we would have a pretty good 1-2 punch with Washington and Jordan, and believe me, w/e we do in the offseason on getting a RB, this offense is still going to use Washington, he is too good of a back not to use. He is the homerun threat that we havent had in a while, the type of guy that makes gamechangeing plays, like with that 60 yard screen pass, and also that 40 yard one against the Bills that got our offense going. Leon Washington is a Gamebreaker!!


The Bears aren't going to release Jones and if they want to get rid of him they will trade him, which would cost us at least a 1st rounder. Turner will require a 1st to get too so IMO he's out of the picture.
Jordan wouldn't be a bad option but an equal talent could be found in the first two rounds such as Michael Bush and is a younger, cheaper alternative than Jordan.
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 12:53 PM

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Posted 23 January 2007 - 01:43 PM

QUOTE (Swissle @ Jan 22 2007, 08:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If Leon Washington was the #1 all year long, he would have rushed for 1,000 +yds. I'd like to see him do it all year long. We could just draft a bruiser in the middle rounds to compliment him. Tangini said they wan't to build this team through the draft, and RB is a very important position obviously, so I think they do it through the draft. No Lamont return.



for this reason doesnt leonard look like the best option. Let leon do a big portion of the work with leonard spelling him, blocking for him, and seeing a ton of redzone action...

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Posted 23 January 2007 - 02:14 PM

Jordan is too injury proned and wouldn't be worth the asking price. He has had injuries in each season, even as a backup for us. Give me Turner and I will be very happy.
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 02:21 PM

lamont is just way oeverated, when he was with the jets he got a lot of credit running behind curtis but i doubt he'll be as productive running behind leon.
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 03:48 PM

if the price was right I would definitely consider it.
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 04:06 PM

QUOTE (Smedsthejet @ Jan 23 2007, 12:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The Bears aren't going to release Jones and if they want to get rid of him they will trade him, which would cost us at least a 1st rounder. Turner will require a 1st to get too so IMO he's out of the picture.
Jordan wouldn't be a bad option but an equal talent could be found in the first two rounds such as Michael Bush and is a younger, cheaper alternative than Jordan.

I could be wrong, but I thought Jones was an UFA this offseason. Even if he wasn't, he wouldn't cost a first rounder. Probably more like a second or third, depending on how eager they are to get rid of him. And I agree that Turner isn't worth a first rounder. I'm not one who really thinks the Jets need a RB early, but I wouldn't mind Michael Bush. He is huge and would be a perfect compliment to Leon.
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 07:37 PM

Thomas Jones could be a UFA, he has a option in his deal, if the Bears want him for another season and he wants to be there then they can go through with the option that will make him a Bear for one more year. Otherwise he could hit the UFA, alot of people think that the Bears may want to just let him go so they can really start running Benson more, and make him the feature back there.
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 08:08 PM




And hell NO to Lamont!! he had is chance. F- him!
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Posted 24 January 2007 - 11:52 AM

QUOTE (VaNDelaYInDusTrIEs @ Jan 23 2007, 09:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I could be wrong, but I thought Jones was an UFA this offseason. Even if he wasn't, he wouldn't cost a first rounder. Probably more like a second or third, depending on how eager they are to get rid of him. And I agree that Turner isn't worth a first rounder. I'm not one who really thinks the Jets need a RB early, but I wouldn't mind Michael Bush. He is huge and would be a perfect compliment to Leon.


Jones was the better back all season and he has proved more than Michael Turner in the league so if the Chargers get a 1st for him then that sets Jones' value slightly higher IMO although you can't go much migher than a 1st crazy.gif . Even though they have Benson why would they want to get rid of him anyway? It's a similar situation in NO with two highly paid backs and I don't see McAllister or Bush leaving any time soon. A lot of teams are shifting towards having two RBs who share the load and him and Benson were a successful tandem so why should they break it up?
Jones has outplayed Benson so far and got the Bears into the playoffs the past two seasons as the starting RB. Despite having a lot invested in Benson why should they go for him when it has been proven to them that Jones is the better back of the two right now?
I'd rather get a guy like Michael Bush though: younger and cheaper although a bit less talented but at least we won't pay over the odds for him.
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