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ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
santana Icon : (24 April 2015 - 11:32 PM) TEH WIZ
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:57 AM) Teh Suarez
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 07:00 AM) Until next time fellas!
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 01:19 PM) Helloooooooooo
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 01:19 PM) Bueller
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 01:33 PM) Manish says the Jets should trade down and draft Andrus Peat round 1
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 12:44 PM

OK what do u guys think. I need a stud WR so I offered (to the last place team who needs a RB badly)

D.davis and M.clayton

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C.johnson and c.martin


His staring RBs are martin and bennet (ouch I know) and he doesn’t even have a decent back-up option he does however have both mannings. If he trades me for this then tardes a manning for another stud RB he’d be set. He has some good WRs so tahts not a concern. I need a WR badly and I still have tiki, k.jones and ship. So I figue I can start tiki and jones and still have 2 decent back-ups in ship and martin.

What do u guys think?
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 01:38 PM

good deal both ways.. thumbup.gif
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 01:56 PM

You'd get the best of the deal, but at least he'd have a back with some potential instead of two guys who can't combine for ten points.
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 02:07 PM

Bennet and martin combined have less total points then d.davis and davis already had his bye week. Bennet isn’t even the starter in minn. Anymore. he needs a back badly and he has other WRs plus getting clayton isn’t a bad option to start either. Our league scores high and weirdly. Last year d.davis was the 3rd best back behind LT (1) and westbrook (2). I’m only trading him cause after this week k.jones will be able to take off againss bad defenses.
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 03:37 PM

offer that to him.i like johnson alot
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 05:38 PM

OMG the guy I offered accepted the dumbest trade ever. I hope the commish bounces it back but my league is crooked, one of the commish is on the good side of the deal and the other might get brought off to let it through. He accepted to take willie parker straight up for eli manning.
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QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Oct 5 2005, 05:13 PM)
OMG the guy I offered accepted the dumbest trade ever. I hope the commish bounces it back but my league is crooked, one of the commish is on the good side of the deal and the other might get brought off to let it through. He accepted to take willie parker straight up for eli manning.


Willie Parker might not be starting in the next couple weeks as Bettis and Staley are both going to be back. There were rumors last week that Staley would get the start, so his value is dropping quite a bit.

And, honestly, don't you think you're a little bit predjudiced against all things-Giant? I know you have a lot of dumb Giant fans around, but Eli is scoring pretty well and has a lot of weapons. Ah, I guess I'm the same way with the Chiefs.
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Posted 06 October 2005 - 09:59 AM

QUOTE (a1elbow @ Oct 5 2005, 08:05 PM)
Willie Parker might not be starting in the next couple weeks as Bettis and Staley are both going to be back.  There were rumors last week that Staley would get the start, so his value is dropping quite a bit.

And, honestly, don't you think you're a little bit predjudiced against all things-Giant?  I know you have a lot of dumb Giant fans around, but Eli is scoring pretty well and has a lot of weapons.  Ah, I guess I'm the same way with the Chiefs.


I know eli is. Maybe u read my post wrong. I said he was dumb for giving up eli and only getting parker in return. I’m giving eli his props as a fantasy player only. Face it he hasn’t faced a real defense but he really wont have to all year. I know philly but besides them who else? Dallas isn’t playing well on defense. The skins isn’t what it was last year sooo… oh and he rejected the davis trade. That’s pure dumbness. He needs a RB so he tardes a top 5 fantasy guy right now at QB (most important) for a soon to be back-up RB. That’s gonna blow up in his face
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QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Oct 6 2005, 09:34 AM)
I know eli is. Maybe u read my post wrong. I said he was dumb for giving up eli and only getting parker in return. I’m giving eli his props as a fantasy player only. Face it he hasn’t faced a real defense but he really wont have to all year. I know philly but besides them who else? Dallas isn’t playing well on defense. The skins isn’t what it was last year sooo… oh and he rejected the davis trade. That’s pure dumbness. He needs a RB so he tardes a top 5 fantasy guy right now at QB (most important) for a soon to be back-up RB. That’s gonna blow up in his face


Yeah, I thought you meant the other way, with the guy getting Eli being screwed. How long have you been in that league? I'd be surprised if an experienced FFL operatot allowed a trade like that to go through, or at least one who was playing with friends.

THe worst trade I've seen in my league just went through, it was:

Vick, Stephen Davis, and Tory Holt for Lamont Jordan. Jordan was maybe worth Holt on his own, and I think Holt has better value (in that league receivers who get long TDs score as well as #2RBs except Moss and Owens who almost score as well as #1s). So he got 1)a great receiver, 2)a starting RB who gets TDs, and 3)a QB with upside as a #2 and only gave up an underachieving RB in exchange. But our commish checked with the other owner and tried to talk to him out of it.

Well, then the guy offered me A.Green, Vick, and Bruce for McGahee and Muhammud. I guess he thinks he can get on a role with getting trades that are steals.
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Posted 07 October 2005 - 10:22 AM

Actually the guy that traded eli proposed the trade I found out. they let it pass cause we have a 2 headed commish and both of the commishes passed trades that favored the other guy. Next year I’m making sure we install a league wide vote on trades. this is our 2nd year doing it so there are still bugs in the system. U can’t blame people for wanthing a competitive advantage
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QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Oct 7 2005, 09:57 AM)
Actually the guy that traded eli proposed the trade I found out. they let it pass cause we have a 2 headed commish and both of the commishes passed trades that favored the other guy. Next year I’m making sure we install a league wide vote on trades. this is our 2nd year doing it so there are still bugs in the system. U can’t blame people for wanthing a competitive advantage


Yeah, but a commish should choose fairness more than anything. When I got the FA going in our league I waited two days before I used it, just to make sure I wasn't using it before everyone knew.
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Posted 07 October 2005 - 04:28 PM

I just made a trade. I traded barber and clayton for plax and taylor.

I figured I needed a stud WR and the gianst crappy defense leads to a lot of throwing. Think about it the worst defenses usually means good QBs for fantasy, green and manning of past years etc. I figure plax will continue to be eli’s go to guy for a while so barbers production will go down. Plus they use Jacobs on goaline. He took 2 TDs from barber already
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Posted 07 October 2005 - 06:26 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Oct 5 2005, 06:13 PM)
OMG the guy I offered accepted the dumbest trade ever. I hope the commish bounces it back but my league is crooked, one of the commish is on the good side of the deal and the other might get brought off to let it through. He accepted to take willie parker straight up for eli manning.


I would rather Parker over Eli, Cowher says Parker isn't losing the starting job, and all the Steelers do is run. Eli was a free agent in my league until this week, and QB's are easier to come by then starting RB's. He was desperate for a RB, I think it was a fair trade.
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QUOTE (TheUltimate @ Oct 7 2005, 06:01 PM)
I would rather Parker over Eli,  Cowher says Parker isn't losing the starting job, and all the Steelers do is run.  Eli was a free agent in my league until this week, and QB's are easier to come by then starting RB's.  He was desperate for a RB, I think it was a fair trade.


I think Parker keeping his job is like the Vikings saying that Tice's job is safe. Staley and Bettis will get at least some carries, and it should be enough to keep Parker from being anything better than a #2 or (more likely in my opinon) #3 fantasy back. And then he might just lose it if he doesn't play well for a game or goes down. So to me, Parker has a lot of downside and Eli has a lot of upside as a guy on the rise.

If Parker gets less than twenty carries a game (Staley gets some), and Bettis only gets goal line carries (like last season), he loses a lot of value. You can pretty much forget bonus points for reaching a certain number of carries or yards (usually 20 and 100, respectfully) and won't get many TDs. I wouldn't be surprised if he started getting cut in a lot of leagues in the coming weeks.
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Posted 07 October 2005 - 06:40 PM

QUOTE (a1elbow @ Oct 7 2005, 07:10 PM)
I think Parker keeping his job is like the Vikings saying that Tice's job is safe.  Staley and Bettis will get at least some carries, and it should be enough to keep Parker from being anything better than a #2 or (more likely in my opinon) #3 fantasy back.  And then he might just lose it if he doesn't play well for a game or goes down.  So to me, Parker has a lot of downside and Eli has a lot of upside as a guy on the rise.

If Parker gets less than twenty carries a game (Staley gets some), and Bettis only gets goal line carries (like last season), he loses a lot of value.  You can pretty much forget bonus points for reaching a certain number of carries or yards (usually 20 and 100, respectfully) and won't get many TDs.  I wouldn't be surprised if he started getting cut in a lot of leagues in the coming weeks.


I got a question for you, I got Staley on 1 of my teams, I have him on the bench, do you think he is worth keeping him or should I just drop him? Cause I heard he ain't even gonna be on the roster this week, cause they have Parker, Bettis and that Haynes guy. I don't know what is going on with Staley. Should I just keep him and hope that Parker gets benched, but is he still worth it, cause Bettis will steal all his TDs anyway.
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Posted 07 October 2005 - 06:49 PM

QUOTE (TheUltimate @ Oct 7 2005, 06:15 PM)
I got a question for you, I got Staley on 1 of my teams, I have him on the bench, do you think he is worth keeping him or should I just drop him?  Cause I heard he ain't even gonna be on the roster this week, cause they have Parker, Bettis and that Haynes guy.  I don't know what is going on with Staley.  Should I just keep him and hope that Parker gets benched, but is he still worth it, cause Bettis will steal all his TDs anyway.


It depends on who is out there in the FA market. In my league, if I had Staley, I would keep him right now because there isn't anything out there. But I don't think any Steeler back can be trusted right now, or at least after this week, with so many proven players in the mix that all want some playing time. Parker probably has one more week as a real starter and then it may become a real RB-by-commitee scenario with none of them having a lot of value...

as usual, I didn't really answer the question. I would drop him, but only if you actually get something in return.
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