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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Some Of You Don't Realize How Bad Bradway Was the mess he made

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Posted 12 May 2006 - 07:04 PM

Pretend you're Woody Johnson for a moment. You're a billionaire Jet fan (yes, despite all the warranted negative comments, I do believe he is a Jet fan) & bought the team for over $600M. Things seem to be going ok to you for the first season or two. And then...Your team was the laughing stock of the 2003 off-season when under your GM's watch, one team signed four (FOUR!!!) of our free agents we didn't want to let go of.

Gave a 29 year-old RB, already top-10 on the most-carries-for-a-career list, a 7 year $46M extension with like $14M in guaranteed money.

Traded two #1's and a #4 (and their very manageable salaries/bonuses) to move up in the '03 draft to get a combine/workout warrior. Considering what we gave up to draft this player and his 8-figure signing bonus, he's fallen short of expectations to say the least.

Gave in to Herm's badgering (privately and/or through the media) & rewarded his 6-10 season with a raise & an extension.

He gave a weak-armed veteran QB, who never completed a single NFL season, something like $20M of your money over the past 2 years & it's basically lost money barring an unprecedented recovery.

In the deepest draft in years, trades a high 2nd-round pick, & the reasonable contract that comes along with it, in exchange for a rebuilding team's #3 WR, then gives said player a $31M contract.

Lost the young, star WR he inherited with the team, while the player was a RESTRICTED free agent, by being cheap to the tune of $500K. Then trades 1st rounder Santana Moss (who also cost us a 4th to acquire) just to get him back b/c he fits in better with the weak-armed $64M QB, only to see Moss up there in league leaders & on every week's highlight film all season long.

Despite the countless millions you spent to try, you didn't get your dream stadium in Manhattan, look the fool, and (rightly or wrongly) thousands of Jets fans now despise you for taking what was financially your best option left. Not Bradway's fault, but can't help but add to the aggrivation to come.


He leaves your team $30M+ over the cap & just went 4-12 & had the 30th ranked offense under the OC you paid like a HC. You're going to lose your only pro-bowler from this year & will likely also lose your 3-time pro-bowl DE. Your overpaid QB spent the season on IR & after a poor performance for all but one game, your old, overpaid RB joined him some weeks later. The head coach then has the temerity, at this point, to demand yet ANOTHER raise & extension. You want this smarmy, snot-nosed head coach GONE. FIRED. But before you get the chance...miraculously, as is hinted towards the end of the season, Kansas City comes to you and says "we want him" and is actually willing to GIVE you draft picks to take him off your hands. Your GM is good buddies with the KC GM. Finally something goes right.

...and then he screws that up too, as it is leaked out that you'll probably have Herm fired anyway if a deal with KC can't be reached. No doubt this came up in the buddy-buddy conversations between Terry & Carl. Peterson, not surprisingly, takes the position that he'll just pick Herm up for nothing after he's fired - or take the screw-you offer of 4th round pick he left on the table.
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Posted 12 May 2006 - 07:18 PM

We should all just ignore this guy, and all of his posts, it's obvious he has no football intelligence what so ever, so please lets just ignore this guy, and let him make a full of himself, or he should just get banned from this site, because it is obvious all his posts are just to try to annoy the hell out of us.
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Posted 12 May 2006 - 07:31 PM

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Posted 12 May 2006 - 07:41 PM

is there ANYBODY who doesnt know how bad bradway was?

ya gotta let stuff like this go
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Posted 12 May 2006 - 07:41 PM

Its kind of a two way saying. You are a fool, and your full of it. You only make negative posts that every one ingnores cause they make no sence, are You even a Jets fan?



We know Terry Bradway did'nt do that great of a job, but you can't pin everything on one person,


So shut your face and look on the bright side!
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Posted 12 May 2006 - 08:07 PM

yea dude, we all thought bradway had to go, read some of the post of the past, in it you will see everyone saying to get rid of Bradway. We dont need to talk about this anymore, hes gone, we got a lot better of a GM in MT. So lets look to the future and present now. And Bradway is not in it. So lets move forward.
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Posted 12 May 2006 - 08:28 PM

QUOTE (EvanstonJet @ May 13 2006, 01:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Well am I wrong, you moron? It is obvious that your posts are just all negative bullshit. Stop with all the negative stuff, and actually cheer for your damn football team. I bet on some day when we win the super bowl, this guy will probably be like, "yeah we won the superbowl, but" and you'll say something negative that we did in the game.
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Posted 12 May 2006 - 08:47 PM

QUOTE (JerseyJet @ May 12 2006, 08:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Its kind of a two way saying. You are a fool, and your full of it. You only make negative posts that every one ingnores cause they make no sence, are You even a Jets fan?
We know Terry Bradway did'nt do that great of a job, but you can't pin everything on one person,
So shut your face and look on the bright side!


Actually the original poster did a nice job of summarizing what most people should have have been thinking --Terry "Dimwit" Dumbway set this franchise back years with many of the referenced moves. Sugar coating it by stating that Birdbrain Bradway "didn't do that great of job" is like saying that Herman Edwards "may need to work on clock management." Do ya think? I lobbied back in the summer of 2002 to get rid of that idiot Bradway when he signed greybeards Martin and Chrebet to ridiculous 8 and 7 years contacts, and drafted Thomas when everybody and their brother wanted Ed Reed. Things look great now that that moron has finally been demoted.
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Posted 12 May 2006 - 08:55 PM

QUOTE (tomdeb @ May 13 2006, 02:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Actually the original poster did a nice job of summarizing what most people should have have been thinking --Terry "Dimwit" Dumbway set this franchise back years with many of the referenced moves. Sugar coating it by stating that Birdbrain Bradway "didn't do that great of job" is like saying that Herman Edwards "may need to work on clock management." Do ya think? I lobbied back in the summer of 2002 to get rid of that idiot Bradway when he signed greybeards Martin and Chrebet to ridiculous 8 and 7 years contacts, and drafted Thomas when everybody and their brother wanted Ed Reed. Things look great now that that moron has finally been demoted.


Why bother stating the obvious though. This has been said way before this guy, Evanston has joined the site. We all know that Bradway was an idiot, we don't need to be told again. Besides, do not ever say that it was a mistake to sign Chrebet to a long contract, I would sign him to a long contract to keep him here as long as Bradway did, same goes for Curtis Martin as well. So as I said before, this bullshit doesn't need to be mentioned anymore, since he is no longer general manager. Enough of this shit.
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Post icon  Posted 12 May 2006 - 08:58 PM

I for one am all in favor of a mandatory spelling test to get onto this board. Ha ha ha, I mean (laughter).
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Posted 12 May 2006 - 10:11 PM

Who didn't know Bradway suck. That's not news. bullshit.gif
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Posted 12 May 2006 - 10:40 PM

Newsflash: Edison invents lightbulb.
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Posted 12 May 2006 - 10:46 PM

QUOTE (Chadforpresidentin08 @ May 13 2006, 12:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Newsflash: Edison invents lightbulb.


No he didn't. Heinrich Göbel invented the first modern lightbulb, Edison was the 1st to successfully market it.
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Posted 12 May 2006 - 10:54 PM

QUOTE (theanalogkid @ May 12 2006, 11:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No he didn't. Heinrich Göbel invented the first modern lightbulb, Edison was the 1st to successfully market it.

All right Mr. Science crazy.gif , newsflash: Phillip Wright invents telephone.
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Posted 13 May 2006 - 01:24 AM

QUOTE (Chadforpresidentin08 @ May 13 2006, 12:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
All right Mr. Science crazy.gif , newsflash: Phillip Wright invents telephone.


Al Gore invented the internet...
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Posted 13 May 2006 - 07:41 AM

QUOTE (enjoythemouse @ May 13 2006, 01:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Al Gore invented the internet...

Are you for cereal??? crazy.gif (Gott watch South Park to know this one).
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Posted 13 May 2006 - 12:41 PM

QUOTE (EvanstonJet @ May 12 2006, 08:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Traded two #1's and a #4 (and their very manageable salaries/bonuses) to move up in the '03 draft to get a combine/workout warrior. Considering what we gave up to draft this player and his 8-figure signing bonus, he's fallen short of expectations to say the least.

I still don't understand the contract they gave him.

It was impossible for him to live up to those expectations.

He'd have to be a perennial pro bowler and the best DT of the last decade or two to be worth that money.
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Posted 13 May 2006 - 03:49 PM

QUOTE (Sandman @ May 13 2006, 11:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I still don't understand the contract they gave him.

It was impossible for him to live up to those expectations.

He'd have to be a perennial pro bowler and the best DT of the last decade or two to be worth that money.


its based on position and draft position. any player we drafted their would have gotten the same and expect furgeson to get a bigger deal then robertson got
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Posted 13 May 2006 - 04:00 PM

Someone close this topic please..
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Posted 13 May 2006 - 04:06 PM

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Someone close this topic please..


okay
Get it done MT
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