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MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) good
MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (23 September 2016 - 03:55 PM) updated roster. FB howsare released, TE bowman added to roster
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 12:44 PM

OK what do u guys think. I need a stud WR so I offered (to the last place team who needs a RB badly)

D.davis and M.clayton

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C.johnson and c.martin


His staring RBs are martin and bennet (ouch I know) and he doesn’t even have a decent back-up option he does however have both mannings. If he trades me for this then tardes a manning for another stud RB he’d be set. He has some good WRs so tahts not a concern. I need a WR badly and I still have tiki, k.jones and ship. So I figue I can start tiki and jones and still have 2 decent back-ups in ship and martin.

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Posted 05 October 2005 - 01:38 PM

good deal both ways.. thumbup.gif
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 01:56 PM

You'd get the best of the deal, but at least he'd have a back with some potential instead of two guys who can't combine for ten points.
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 02:07 PM

Bennet and martin combined have less total points then d.davis and davis already had his bye week. Bennet isn’t even the starter in minn. Anymore. he needs a back badly and he has other WRs plus getting clayton isn’t a bad option to start either. Our league scores high and weirdly. Last year d.davis was the 3rd best back behind LT (1) and westbrook (2). I’m only trading him cause after this week k.jones will be able to take off againss bad defenses.
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 03:37 PM

offer that to him.i like johnson alot
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 05:38 PM

OMG the guy I offered accepted the dumbest trade ever. I hope the commish bounces it back but my league is crooked, one of the commish is on the good side of the deal and the other might get brought off to let it through. He accepted to take willie parker straight up for eli manning.
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 09:30 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Oct 5 2005, 05:13 PM)
OMG the guy I offered accepted the dumbest trade ever. I hope the commish bounces it back but my league is crooked, one of the commish is on the good side of the deal and the other might get brought off to let it through. He accepted to take willie parker straight up for eli manning.


Willie Parker might not be starting in the next couple weeks as Bettis and Staley are both going to be back. There were rumors last week that Staley would get the start, so his value is dropping quite a bit.

And, honestly, don't you think you're a little bit predjudiced against all things-Giant? I know you have a lot of dumb Giant fans around, but Eli is scoring pretty well and has a lot of weapons. Ah, I guess I'm the same way with the Chiefs.
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Posted 06 October 2005 - 09:59 AM

QUOTE (a1elbow @ Oct 5 2005, 08:05 PM)
Willie Parker might not be starting in the next couple weeks as Bettis and Staley are both going to be back.  There were rumors last week that Staley would get the start, so his value is dropping quite a bit.

And, honestly, don't you think you're a little bit predjudiced against all things-Giant?  I know you have a lot of dumb Giant fans around, but Eli is scoring pretty well and has a lot of weapons.  Ah, I guess I'm the same way with the Chiefs.


I know eli is. Maybe u read my post wrong. I said he was dumb for giving up eli and only getting parker in return. I’m giving eli his props as a fantasy player only. Face it he hasn’t faced a real defense but he really wont have to all year. I know philly but besides them who else? Dallas isn’t playing well on defense. The skins isn’t what it was last year sooo… oh and he rejected the davis trade. That’s pure dumbness. He needs a RB so he tardes a top 5 fantasy guy right now at QB (most important) for a soon to be back-up RB. That’s gonna blow up in his face
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QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Oct 6 2005, 09:34 AM)
I know eli is. Maybe u read my post wrong. I said he was dumb for giving up eli and only getting parker in return. I’m giving eli his props as a fantasy player only. Face it he hasn’t faced a real defense but he really wont have to all year. I know philly but besides them who else? Dallas isn’t playing well on defense. The skins isn’t what it was last year sooo… oh and he rejected the davis trade. That’s pure dumbness. He needs a RB so he tardes a top 5 fantasy guy right now at QB (most important) for a soon to be back-up RB. That’s gonna blow up in his face


Yeah, I thought you meant the other way, with the guy getting Eli being screwed. How long have you been in that league? I'd be surprised if an experienced FFL operatot allowed a trade like that to go through, or at least one who was playing with friends.

THe worst trade I've seen in my league just went through, it was:

Vick, Stephen Davis, and Tory Holt for Lamont Jordan. Jordan was maybe worth Holt on his own, and I think Holt has better value (in that league receivers who get long TDs score as well as #2RBs except Moss and Owens who almost score as well as #1s). So he got 1)a great receiver, 2)a starting RB who gets TDs, and 3)a QB with upside as a #2 and only gave up an underachieving RB in exchange. But our commish checked with the other owner and tried to talk to him out of it.

Well, then the guy offered me A.Green, Vick, and Bruce for McGahee and Muhammud. I guess he thinks he can get on a role with getting trades that are steals.
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Posted 07 October 2005 - 10:22 AM

Actually the guy that traded eli proposed the trade I found out. they let it pass cause we have a 2 headed commish and both of the commishes passed trades that favored the other guy. Next year I’m making sure we install a league wide vote on trades. this is our 2nd year doing it so there are still bugs in the system. U can’t blame people for wanthing a competitive advantage
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QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Oct 7 2005, 09:57 AM)
Actually the guy that traded eli proposed the trade I found out. they let it pass cause we have a 2 headed commish and both of the commishes passed trades that favored the other guy. Next year I’m making sure we install a league wide vote on trades. this is our 2nd year doing it so there are still bugs in the system. U can’t blame people for wanthing a competitive advantage


Yeah, but a commish should choose fairness more than anything. When I got the FA going in our league I waited two days before I used it, just to make sure I wasn't using it before everyone knew.
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Posted 07 October 2005 - 04:28 PM

I just made a trade. I traded barber and clayton for plax and taylor.

I figured I needed a stud WR and the gianst crappy defense leads to a lot of throwing. Think about it the worst defenses usually means good QBs for fantasy, green and manning of past years etc. I figure plax will continue to be eli’s go to guy for a while so barbers production will go down. Plus they use Jacobs on goaline. He took 2 TDs from barber already
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Posted 07 October 2005 - 06:26 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Oct 5 2005, 06:13 PM)
OMG the guy I offered accepted the dumbest trade ever. I hope the commish bounces it back but my league is crooked, one of the commish is on the good side of the deal and the other might get brought off to let it through. He accepted to take willie parker straight up for eli manning.


I would rather Parker over Eli, Cowher says Parker isn't losing the starting job, and all the Steelers do is run. Eli was a free agent in my league until this week, and QB's are easier to come by then starting RB's. He was desperate for a RB, I think it was a fair trade.
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QUOTE (TheUltimate @ Oct 7 2005, 06:01 PM)
I would rather Parker over Eli,  Cowher says Parker isn't losing the starting job, and all the Steelers do is run.  Eli was a free agent in my league until this week, and QB's are easier to come by then starting RB's.  He was desperate for a RB, I think it was a fair trade.


I think Parker keeping his job is like the Vikings saying that Tice's job is safe. Staley and Bettis will get at least some carries, and it should be enough to keep Parker from being anything better than a #2 or (more likely in my opinon) #3 fantasy back. And then he might just lose it if he doesn't play well for a game or goes down. So to me, Parker has a lot of downside and Eli has a lot of upside as a guy on the rise.

If Parker gets less than twenty carries a game (Staley gets some), and Bettis only gets goal line carries (like last season), he loses a lot of value. You can pretty much forget bonus points for reaching a certain number of carries or yards (usually 20 and 100, respectfully) and won't get many TDs. I wouldn't be surprised if he started getting cut in a lot of leagues in the coming weeks.
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Posted 07 October 2005 - 06:40 PM

QUOTE (a1elbow @ Oct 7 2005, 07:10 PM)
I think Parker keeping his job is like the Vikings saying that Tice's job is safe.  Staley and Bettis will get at least some carries, and it should be enough to keep Parker from being anything better than a #2 or (more likely in my opinon) #3 fantasy back.  And then he might just lose it if he doesn't play well for a game or goes down.  So to me, Parker has a lot of downside and Eli has a lot of upside as a guy on the rise.

If Parker gets less than twenty carries a game (Staley gets some), and Bettis only gets goal line carries (like last season), he loses a lot of value.  You can pretty much forget bonus points for reaching a certain number of carries or yards (usually 20 and 100, respectfully) and won't get many TDs.  I wouldn't be surprised if he started getting cut in a lot of leagues in the coming weeks.


I got a question for you, I got Staley on 1 of my teams, I have him on the bench, do you think he is worth keeping him or should I just drop him? Cause I heard he ain't even gonna be on the roster this week, cause they have Parker, Bettis and that Haynes guy. I don't know what is going on with Staley. Should I just keep him and hope that Parker gets benched, but is he still worth it, cause Bettis will steal all his TDs anyway.
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Posted 07 October 2005 - 06:49 PM

QUOTE (TheUltimate @ Oct 7 2005, 06:15 PM)
I got a question for you, I got Staley on 1 of my teams, I have him on the bench, do you think he is worth keeping him or should I just drop him?  Cause I heard he ain't even gonna be on the roster this week, cause they have Parker, Bettis and that Haynes guy.  I don't know what is going on with Staley.  Should I just keep him and hope that Parker gets benched, but is he still worth it, cause Bettis will steal all his TDs anyway.


It depends on who is out there in the FA market. In my league, if I had Staley, I would keep him right now because there isn't anything out there. But I don't think any Steeler back can be trusted right now, or at least after this week, with so many proven players in the mix that all want some playing time. Parker probably has one more week as a real starter and then it may become a real RB-by-commitee scenario with none of them having a lot of value...

as usual, I didn't really answer the question. I would drop him, but only if you actually get something in return.
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