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azjetfan Icon : (16 August 2014 - 08:44 PM) Who knows though
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santana Icon : (16 August 2014 - 11:55 PM) Gotta fix that
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:35 PM) Is anyone else as concerned as I am about the secondary?
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:36 PM) I know it's preseason and all but even with Milliner in on the first game we gave up a TD on the first drive to the Colts
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:37 PM) Patterson looked like me out there and Wilson got torched last night
Smedsthejet Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:26 PM) Concerned about the right side of the OLine too - too many penalties and Giacomini wasn't that much better than against the Colts when he was poor
SackExchange71 Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:31 PM) Imo i still think howard is better then giacomini..Wish they never let him walk.Giacomini had alot of flags in seattle also
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:33 AM) Howard recieved a huge contract in Oakland. Way over his actual value.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 10:08 AM) So did we make a trade for a CB yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:51 PM) Milliner did suffer a high ankle sprain, that sucks. could linger all year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:52 PM) I think Patterson sucked vs the Colts because he was injured, which he always is.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
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What We Can Learn From 1995 & 1996! Kotite shouldered all the blame!

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Posted 02 December 2005 - 05:49 PM

Rich Kotite had a 11-5 record in 1991. He also had a 10-6 record in 1992 and an 8-8 record in 1993. After a 7-9 season in 1994, he was fired by the Philadelphia Eagles.

He was hired by the Jets in 1995 (who had a record of 4-12 in 1992, 8-8 in 1993 and 6-10 in 1994). This team was so bad that they had not had a winning season since 1987.

The 1995 draft turned out to be pivotal in Jets history as they had 2 number one picks and instead of drafting a well known defensive tackle named Warren Sapp They chose Kyle Brady. Jets fans were booing all over the world. Rich Haley took over duties of running and organizing the draft after the late general manager Rich Steinberg was diagnosed with stomach cancer in December of 1994. Haley joined the Jets in 1991 as the team director of player personnel and oversaw the Jets' scouts and the evaluation of collegiate player personnel.

The 1995 New York Jets Draft:

1 Kyle Brady Penn State TE
1 Hugh Douglas Central State (OH) DE
3 Matt O'Dwyer Northwestern G
4 Melvin Hayes Mississippi State T
4 Tyrone Davis Virginia WR
5 Carl Greenwood UCLA DB
6 Eddie Mason North Carolina LB
7 Curtis Ceaser Grambling WR

The Jets continued to be active in the free agent market, signing seven unrestricted free agents: QB Bubby Brister, RB-KR Dexter Carter, S Gary Jones and Todd Scott, DT-DE Erik Howard and Matt Brock and CB Otis Smith

The 1996 New York Jets Draft

1 Johnson, Keyshawn WR USC
2 Van Byke, Alex WR Nevada
3 Mickens, Ray DB Texas A&M
4 Choice to Tampa Bay - -
5 Coleman, Marcus DB Texas Tech
6 Hunter, Hugh DE Hampton
7 Hayes, Chris DB Washington State

in 1996, T David Williams was the first player to sign with the Jets as a FA, leading a long line of players that included T John Elliott, QB's Neil O'Donnell and Frank Reich and WR Jeff Graham. (Feb. 15).

Sadly Steinberg died September 1995 prior to the start of the season and the Jets would go on to finish 3-13 behind Bubby Brister and Boomer Esiason. WR's were Wayne Chrebet and Charles Wilson and Ryan Yarborough.

In 1996 the Jets would have their worst season finishing at 1-15. Neil O'Donnell, Frank Reich and Gelnn Foley shared QB duties. Wayne Chrebet, Jeff Graham and Rookie Keyshawn Johnson were the WR's. QB Neil O'Donnell suffered a shoulder injury in game six vs. Oakland and would miss six games due to the injury. He was scheduled to return to action in game 13 vs. Houston, but suffered a torn calf muscle in pregame warmups, sidelining him for the remainder of the season.

And so it goes Rich Kotite having been proclaimed worst coach in Jets History.

Note: I cannot even remember players that were free agent pickups and drafted and most of the starters. Both drafts were conducted by Rich Haley and were the poorest drafts in recent memory. The Jets has 3 coaches in the last 4 years prior to the 1996 season (Bruce Coslet Pete Carroll and Rich Kotite) and all were below .500.

We can learn that if you do not draft well and have an unstable team roster situation, your teams can suffer. In the end, it cost Kotite his career and reputation. Those 2 years defined him as a head coach. Its a shame that he left quietly and took all the blame. I respect him for not placing blame on Haley's drafts and poor personnel selection. He took it like a man! I sure as hell wouldn't!
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Posted 02 December 2005 - 06:02 PM

I'd hate to tell you, but with all the bullshit you have said earlier, well, no one gives a flying *beep* of what you say now, so why don't you go to that better jets fan site.
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Posted 02 December 2005 - 06:09 PM

QUOTE (JCBizkit87 @ Dec 2 2005, 06:37 PM)
I'd hate to tell you, but with all the bullshit you have said earlier, well, no one gives a flying *beep* of what you say now, so why don't you go to that better jets fan site.



Mr. Bizkit 87,


I am glad you finally found the time to stop raping your little sister and were able to respond to me in such a fashion.
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Posted 02 December 2005 - 06:26 PM

QUOTE (richkotite2006 @ Dec 2 2005, 06:44 PM)
Mr. Bizkit 87,
I am glad you finally found the time to stop raping your little sister and were able to respond to me in such a fashion.



WOW... that was uncalled for dude. Apologize immediately. That was not cool, No class at all.

You make me sick

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Posted 02 December 2005 - 06:29 PM

QUOTE (richkotite2006 @ Dec 2 2005, 05:44 PM)
Mr. Bizkit 87,
I am glad you finally found the time to stop raping your little sister and were able to respond to me in such a fashion.





OHHH, this explains why your posts alternation from Positive to Negetive


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Posted 02 December 2005 - 07:18 PM

QUOTE (sdubb6 @ Dec 2 2005, 07:01 PM)
WOW... that was uncalled for dude. Apologize immediately. That was not cool, No class at all.

You make me sick




Class. When you start a fight be prepared for what comes next! Bizkit had no right hopping into my thread and calling it bullshit. An Insult is an insult. There are no varying degrees. I am assuming you want to be the peacemaker. We'll go make peace elsewhere! Your opinions do not matter to me! This is between he and I shitweed! beach.gif
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Posted 02 December 2005 - 07:55 PM

QUOTE (richkotite2006 @ Dec 3 2005, 12:53 AM)
Class.    When you start a fight be prepared for what comes next!  Bizkit had no right hopping into my thread and calling it bullshit.  An Insult is an insult.  There are no varying degrees. I am assuming you want to be the peacemaker.  We'll go make peace elsewhere!    Your opinions do not matter to me!  This is between he and I shitweed! beach.gif


Dude, you just do not get it, do you? You said you "found" a "better" jets fan site then this, and yet you still happen to come and post here? WHY? I just really want to know. You know your hated on this site, so why not just leave.

I actually did have a right you insult you, because everyone happens to be insulting you here, if you have not noticed yet.

So dude, just shut up, or get the hell out of here.
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Posted 02 December 2005 - 08:28 PM

Well... there are different levels and degree's of an insult. He said it was bullshit and you refer to ancestery and molestation as a comeback. You my friend are a sick demented lilttle man.
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Posted 02 December 2005 - 08:38 PM

QUOTE (sdubb6 @ Dec 2 2005, 09:03 PM)
Well... there are different levels and degree's of an insult. He said it was bullshit and you refer to ancestery and molestation as a comeback. You my friend are a sick demented lilttle man.



Thank You! crazy.gif crazy.gif crazy.gif crazy.gif
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Posted 02 December 2005 - 08:46 PM

QUOTE (richkotite2006 @ Dec 3 2005, 02:13 AM)
Thank You! crazy.gif  crazy.gif  crazy.gif  crazy.gif


Why not do us all a favor, and leave this website, it would be for the best for both the site, and yourself.
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Posted 02 December 2005 - 08:54 PM

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GO HOME! noone likes you your a discrace to all the Jets fans on this board.
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Posted 02 December 2005 - 08:59 PM

QUOTE (richkotite2006 @ Dec 2 2005, 09:13 PM)
Thank You! crazy.gif  crazy.gif  crazy.gif  crazy.gif



Mo...les..ta..tion. Did you read that right?.. and you are finding that humorus?. Your a peice of shit. Your computer is probably filled with child porn to isn't?. O.K I'm out of this conversation becasue i am literally starting to feel ill and your lucky there is an internet becasue if I saw you out at a bar or on the street you would be drinking and eating threw a straw after I knocked your teeth down your throat.
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Posted 03 December 2005 - 12:42 AM

Bizkit deserves some thrashing on this board since he insults everyone he disagrees with, but that was uncalled for. Topic Done.
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