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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 17 November 2007 - 02:54 PM

QUOTE (JCBizkit87 @ Nov 16 2007, 10:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't know why people argue video games with Jetsfan115, I learned that the hard way. He's got to have his way, and he doesn't care for other peoples opinion. He knows it's pointless to keep these type of threads going to bash the Sony systems, but he just still keeps doing it to annoy the hell out of the Sony buyers. So like I said, when it comes to video games, just ignore the guy, if you perfer Sony like I do.


you actually just described yourself
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Posted 17 November 2007 - 03:36 PM

ugh ima have to side with jcbizkit on that one.
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Posted 17 November 2007 - 05:17 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Nov 17 2007, 07:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
you actually just described yourself


Yeah, so whats your point? You're the only one who cares to annoy the hell out of Sony buyers. You don't see the Sony fans making topics about this exact thing, and thinking it's funny, because I don't care what Microsoft does, they can do whatever the hell they want to do, i'm still buying the PS3 over the 360 in the end.
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Posted 18 November 2007 - 12:42 AM

QUOTE (JCBizkit87 @ Nov 17 2007, 02:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, so whats your point? You're the only one who cares to annoy the hell out of Sony buyers. You don't see the Sony fans making topics about this exact thing, and thinking it's funny, because I don't care what Microsoft does, they can do whatever the hell they want to do, i'm still buying the PS3 over the 360 in the end.


look it has nothing to do with sony in general. its funny. if the shoe was on the other foot i'd post about MS stooping to new lows. think whatever you want. personally i don't care
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QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Nov 18 2007, 05:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
look it has nothing to do with sony in general. its funny. if the shoe was on the other foot i'd post about MS stooping to new lows. think whatever you want. personally i don't care


And you can think what you want, we relize you hate the system that sony puts out. We get the point, you don't have to go out of your way to bash the system, we know what you think of the system, so why do you have to make topic after topic about the Sony system sucking. You don't see any Sony fans on here doing that. I'm glad you don't care, because if you didn't, you wouldn't even respond to this post, but if you do, you obviously still care for what i've got to say.
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Posted 18 November 2007 - 01:06 AM

QUOTE (santana @ Nov 17 2007, 08:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ugh ima have to side with jcbizkit on that one.


You sound like you don't like siding with me... lol
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Posted 18 November 2007 - 01:56 AM

well in this pointless discussion its just weird to take sides in general... i had to agree with you because of how 115 responded. he tried to play the same card on me. i didnt want to argue over it so i took it in stride and tried to change the subject a bit.
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Posted 02 January 2008 - 11:43 AM

cmon now microsoft are not angels themselves...They go and pay these movie companies hundreds of million of dollars to go hd dvd exclusive over blu-ray when blu-ray is clearly the better format. Now they are gonna copy sony and nintendo and bring out a motion controller..lol. I'll take my free psn and not your junk box's 40% failure rate. It must suck to have good games and not be able to play them cause youre system is in for repairs..lol
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Posted 02 January 2008 - 12:51 PM

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cmon now microsoft are not angels themselves...They go and pay these movie companies hundreds of million of dollars to go hd dvd exclusive over blu-ray when blu-ray is clearly the better format. Now they are gonna copy sony and nintendo and bring out a motion controller..lol. I'll take my free psn and not your junk box's 40% failure rate. It must suck to have good games and not be able to play them cause youre system is in for repairs..lol

well at least u get play play shitty games all the time
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Posted 02 January 2008 - 01:05 PM

cod4,uncharted,warhawk,ratchet and clank are bad games?..heavenly sword too i bet huh?..ps3 actally is reliable unlike ms and their 40% failure rate..u cant even respond to that cause thats just pathetic..
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Posted 02 January 2008 - 02:15 PM

maybe 40% have failed but mine hasnt so why would i respond it doesnt apply to me

im saying if you look at exclusive titles PS3 might have 2 that i want Socom and MGS but my 360 does so much more than your ps3, you cant say bluray because i was given the HD dvd player so no win there.

the exclusive titles for 360 go deeper and longer than PS3
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Posted 02 January 2008 - 03:18 PM

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maybe 40% have failed but mine hasnt so why would i respond it doesnt apply to me

im saying if you look at exclusive titles PS3 might have 2 that i want Socom and MGS but my 360 does so much more than your ps3, you cant say bluray because i was given the HD dvd player so no win there.

the exclusive titles for 360 go deeper and longer than PS3



ok u wanna go on that route?.. do u have built in wireless?..no Do u get free access to their network?..no..U dont even get a built in dvd player or a standard hdd.. those are all extras that u have to pay for. The failure rate is a fact. plain and simple and microsoft tries to lie about it. Ps3's dont break down like that and also do u even have an hdmi input?..no well unless u spend about the same as a ps3 and get the elite, hell youre 360 cant even use a bluetooth headset..lol so cmon now what can ur 360 do that the ps3 cant?..there are like 3 or 4 exclusives for the 360 that are gears and gaylo and mass effect.. other than that most of the stuff is multi platform..
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Posted 02 January 2008 - 03:19 PM

my 360 is 2 years old and hasn't even frozen up on me that i could recall. your argument is ridiculous. if you like the console better, then fine -- but to trash the other like you got stock in sony is lame.
yeah, your PSN is free, but it lacks ridiculous things, like capabilities to send messages and invites to players between games? You mean to tell me I can't get an invite from a friend playing CoD4, because I'm on Guitar Hero III.

The exclusive games on PS3 are dope. My girl is likely buying me one in a couple weeks, and I can't wait to cop Uncharted and Warhawk. But when it comes to games that are multi-platform, I gotta be honest -- I'm rolling with the 360 for 2 reasons -- XBox Live and Achievements. The PS3 exclusives are gonna have to step up hard, because for those of us that like achievements and gamerscores and don't really give a shit about this ridiculous war between the 2 consoles, 9 times out of 10, we're gonna roll with the 360's version. Especially those of us who haven't had a red ring'd 360.

As for the Bluray vs HD DVD remarks, it's whatever. At the very least Microsoft didn't force unproven hardware on buyers resulting in a console that cost more than what the average consumer was willing to pay. And if we want the HD experience, we can download full length Hi-Def off the marketplace. I downloaded 300 in HD and it was gorgeous. Microsoft did nothing wrong. When Sony and Toshiba decided they wanted to go to war and make competing formats, they both shitted on the consumer.

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In the DVD War Over High Definition, Most Buyers Are Sitting It Out
By ERIC A. TAUB

What if nobody wins the high-definition DVD format wars? That increasingly looks to be the situation for the next-generation DVD technology, which is available to consumers in two incompatible formats.

A little more than 18 months after their introduction, the two systems — Blu-ray, developed by Sony, and HD DVD, from Toshiba — have sold around one million stand-alone players combined. Both sides promote their technologies, their movie studio allies and the growing list of movies available in the new formats.

Yet neither has a clear advantage, either in terms of technology, number of movies or, increasingly, the price of the equipment. According to data from Adams Media Research, 578,000 HD DVD and 370,000 Blu-ray machines will be sold by the end of this year. (NOTE FROM AMEN: PS3 OWNERS WILL SCREAM THAT BLURAY IS KILLING HD DVD)

The winner of the format wars could be determined by which company has the most content, in the same way the VHS-Betamax VCR war was decided. But both formats offer about 400 movies. Studios allied with the Blu-ray camp include Columbia, Disney, Fox, Lionsgate, Miramax, New Line and Sony.

In the HD DVD camp are DreamWorks, Paramount, Universal, the Weinstein Company, and several smaller TV and motion picture companies. Warner Brothers releases movies for both systems.

In November, Howard Stringer, the Sony chairman, publicly acknowledged that the formats were in a stalemate, and predicted that neither side would fold.

High-definition DVDs of both formats provide superior picture and sound quality compared with standard DVDs.

They also offer advanced interactive features like multiple camera angles, games, picture-in-picture commentaries and, in the case of HD DVD, a connection to the Internet to download more content.

But the visual and audio differences depend on the size of the TV screen used to display them.

“You start to enjoy the benefits of high-definition DVD at 40 inches and above,” said Chris Fawcett, vice president for product marketing at Sony Electronics’ home video group.

Only high-definition sets can display high-definition DVD images. And only the highest-resolution displays, the so-called 1080p HDTVs, for progressive scan, can show the images at their best. As a result, the potential customer base is limited. With a lower-resolution 720p set, “you are not as likely to see a dramatic a difference” between standard and high-definition DVDs, according to Andy Parsons, chairman of the Blu-ray Disc Association.

The two camps are victims of their own earlier success with DVD. The standard DVDs offered a quantum leap in quality from the picture and sound of VHS videotape, and for many that was more than adequate.

In addition, DVD players that can convert images to near high-definition quality can be found for under $100, hundreds less than a true high-definition DVD player, further reducing the urgency to upgrade to one of the new formats.

“Today, an HDTV owner hooks up a standard DVD and it looks good,” said Ken Graffeo, executive vice president of HD Strategic Marketing at Universal, and co-president of the HD DVD Promotional Group. “Unless they experience the new format, they won’t understand it.”

Not many consumers are interested in even taking a look. According to research by NPD Group, only 11 percent of HDTV set owners strongly intend to buy a Blu-ray or HD DVD player by next spring. Almost three-quarters of those HDTV owners surveyed said that standard DVD was good enough for them.

“This may emerge as a premium, luxury item, not a successor to DVD,” said Ross Rubin, director for industry analysis at NPD.

Blu-ray and HD DVD proponents are doing what they can to change that attitude. And the best technique to pique interest is dropping the price. As with most things electronic, prices for both players have fallen drastically since their introduction.

HD DVD players, the vast majority of which are made by Toshiba, still have the price advantage. The company’s least-expensive model — which displays images in the lower-quality 1080i format — can be found for $200 or less in electronics store promotions or from online discounters.

Its least-expensive 1080p model is selling at Amazon for $250. But it is a tit-for-tat war. A Blu-ray 1080p unit from Samsung is just $30 more at Costco. Blu-ray units are also made by Panasonic, Philips, Sony and others.

Several holiday promotions had players in either version selling for as low as $200.

In an effort to finesse the format war, LG sells a combination unit that plays both formats; however, its $1,000 price has prompted only a few thousand consumers to buy.

As prices drop, high-definition DVD drives will find their way into other devices. Mr. Graffeo predicts that by the end of next year, 5 million notebook computers will be sold with HD DVD drives.

Sony says that 3.4 million Blu-ray disc drives are also in PlayStation 3 machines, giving it a numerical advantage. But the rival camp points out that gamers are not buying the PS3 to watch movies, and in any case, 300,000 HD DVD add-on drives will have been purchased to use with the Xbox 360 game console from Microsoft.

The 400 movies available in each format are a fraction of the 90,000 movies and TV programs that the video rental company Netflix offers. Increasingly, high-definition DVDs are being issued simultaneously with the standard definition DVD release.

Consumers are usually advised to wait until a clear winner emerges. But if there is a deciding factor, it might be which format has the more compelling movies. Good animation looks three-dimensional in high definition, so Sony is hoping to gain an advantage by providing Blu-ray formats of “Ratatouille,” the Disney/Pixar film about a cute French rat who cooks, and blockbusters like “Spider-Man 3.”

As an indication of their owners’ enthusiasm, Blu-ray users are buying twice as many discs as their HD DVD counterparts, according to Tom Adams, president of Adams Media Research.

Discs can be rented at the Blockbuster and Netflix online stores. Of Blockbuster’s 5,000 physical stores, 250 offer both high-definition DVD formats, while 1,450 rent only Blu-ray; the rest offer none. The company emphasizes Blu-ray because 70 percent of its rentals are for that format, said Karen Raskopf, a Blockbuster spokeswoman.

The HD DVD camp is playing up its new interactive features, believing that the next generation of viewers wants to combine TV viewing with video games.

In Universal’s just-released HD DVD of “The Bourne Ultimatum,” viewers can play a game that tests their memories, and then upload their results using a broadband connection to a Web site and compare their scores with others.

Viewers can also find character dossiers, watch “Webisodes” with the Volkswagen Touareg sport utility vehicle featured in the film, and create playlists of their favorite scenes and share them with friends.

Those features will do little to increase sales, said Richard Doherty, an analyst with the Envisioneering Group. The market consultants’ surveys show that just 3 percent of consumers want interactivity, he said.

As more consumers buy HDTVs, and the price of dual format players drop, an uneasy truce may descend. With the studios in the United States collectively making $16.5 billion in worldwide video sales, according to Mr. Adams, companies will be loath to miss an opportunity to make money by allying themselves with one high-definition DVD format over the other. And then, the once-unthinkable could happen.

“When high-definition DVD reaches its tipping point, studios will have to release their movies in both HD DVD and Blu-ray,” Mr. Adams said. “No studio will be able to afford not to.”

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Posted 02 January 2008 - 03:31 PM

my arguement on the systems is ridiculous?..lol its a fact that they have a very very high failure rate. its called reliability and quality. Achievements is ok, that will be on ps3 when home comes out so no big deal as well as ingame messaging. But microsoft messed up by not making a mandatory or standard hdd on each system.. Look at Unreal tournament 3 and the fact they ps3 can do customizable maps.. That wont be on 360 cause u dont have a standard hdd. and that was said by epic games themselves. And the m,ovies are gonna be on ps3 too. How can everyone that owns a 360 dl movies if they all dont have hdds? Youre right its a personal choice and whatever 360 gets sony will get too but we wont have to pay..lol. And the blu-ray format is good because it allows game makers the advantage of putting more info on the disc, about 3 times that of the standard dvd
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Posted 02 January 2008 - 05:36 PM

hehe this is funny. hey patriokillas let me introduce u to jetsfan115.. i think he would have to agree with most of what you have to say.


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Posted 02 January 2008 - 05:51 PM

haha its all good man, i love my ps3 just like people on here love their 360...
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Posted 02 January 2008 - 07:47 PM

its all fine ps3 can cover up there shitty games by a whole bunch of accesories built in, but in all honesty you cant say you are stoked about the ability to use a blue tooth head set the way you would be if gears came to ps3. all those built in wireless capabilities, storage, and power does not make up for the fun of Xbox Live (the best and only way to play online) go ahead and bitch about the 50 dollars anyone, but i spend about 50 a weekend on beer/bud so i could care less.

in all honesty achievements mean alot more to people than you think they actually have a reason to collect all 100 flags in assassins creed or 100% tiger challenge in TW08 they get rewarded for it. friends lists, XBL Marketplace... like a pocket bestbuy. love my 360

yo amen! when are me u and dubb gonna ball on COD?
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Posted 02 January 2008 - 10:59 PM

gears looks much better on my pc then it does on my 360.
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Posted 02 January 2008 - 11:27 PM

ill pass on gaylo and gears..lol Im not into shooting aliens. I'll take me mgs and my socom confrontation(which all u 360 owners will get back on ps for..guraranteed). achievementts mean nothing to me..I play games online for fun and to kick ass not to get flags..srry
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Posted 02 January 2008 - 11:41 PM

the achievement system isn't really about collecting flags, homie. it's about adding replay value to games. i got assassin's creed a month ago and finally got around to beating it earlier this week. After I got the Achievement for completing the game, I made it my business to go back, and replay so I can complete some things I missed -- like kill over 75 guards with throwing knives, or evade capture for 10 minutes, etc. It might sound foolish to you, but on PS3, after you step out and the credits roll, that's pretty much the end of it. there's no added talk with someone on your friends list when you look at their game list and see that you accomplished something in a game that they got nowhere near doing.

you play call of duty 4, so look at it this way -- all the added points you get for challenges towards ranking up add incentive for you to switch up your gun. yeah, you might be nice with the M16, but once you got your 150 kills with it and got all your challenge points, you might wanna do the same with the G36C. you'll keep playing because you'll check your challenges and see that you need 8 more kills with the MP5 to get 500 points towards a new rank. that's what the achievement/gamerscore system is all about.

also, in a game like rainbow six where you get achievements for hitting certain ranks online, you get to see who cheated and who's legit. if someone got the Elite badge, but not the Best of the Best achievement, you know they glitched it.

i read in GameInformer magazine earlier this year with the editor pleading with Sony to make moves to get something like that done on their console. it doesn't cost the developer's anything extra to accommodate achievement statistics.
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