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ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
santana Icon : (24 April 2015 - 11:32 PM) TEH WIZ
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:57 AM) Teh Suarez
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:00 AM) Until next time fellas!
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Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:33 PM) Manish says the Jets should trade down and draft Andrus Peat round 1
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Trade Dept. : Vilma , Jenkins & Favre, Etc. ~ ~ ~

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Post icon  Posted 28 November 2008 - 08:36 AM

Top trades: Jets pack 1-2 punch
By Jason Cole, Yahoo! Sports - Nov 26, 11:38 am EST

For a man who helped engineer what is shaping up to be one of the top trades in NFL history, New York Jets owner Woody Johnson didn’t seem all that interested in gloating about the move to get Brett Favre.“We’ve had a number of moves we made that have had to work out for us to get here,” Johnson said as he walked from the Jets locker room to his waiting car following New York’s 34-13 win over Tennessee in Nashville, Tenn., Sunday. “There’s a lot that has gone into this … getting Brett, yeah, that was the biggest move from a standpoint of attention. But it wasn’t the only one.”

“There’s a lot that’s gone into this. A lot of moves and a lot of work to make those moves successful.” Without question. Trades in the NFL are difficult to pull off, in part because of the massive number of moving parts. There’s no better proof than the series of significant trades made this year, ranging from the late high-profile deals of Favre, Jason Taylor and Jeremy Shockey to the more traditional moves featuring Jared Allen, Jonathan Vilma and Shaun Rogers.“The key to making any deal is to know exactly what you’re getting and how you’re going to make it work because the dynamics of any trade are so difficult to work out,” said Indianapolis Colts general manager Bill Polian, who swung an important deadline deal for defensive tackle Anthony McFarland in 2006 on the way to a Super Bowl win and then cancelled a deadline deal this year when Buffalo defensive tackle John McCargo failed a physical.

“You also have to have patience, because it takes a long time for you to see how it’s really going to work,” Polian said.That may explain why Johnson kept his happiness with the Favre deal under wraps. Yeah, things look great right now, but much can change.Amid the overreaction that goes with all things in New York – Jets fans and the media have gone from ripping Favre after he threw seven interceptions total in Weeks 6-8 to proclaiming the Big Apple the center of the football universe this year – there’s a tendency to lose sight of the fact that if not for another trade with a huge payoff, the Jets wouldn’t be here.Trading for defensive tackle Kris Jenkins has been almost as significant as getting Favre on offense. Given the massive changes the Jets made on defense in the offseason (dumping Dewayne Robertson and Jonathan Vilma), getting Jenkins and having him experience a career renaissance has been incalculably significant.Now of course, there were some trades made that went far from expected. Can you say: DeAngelo Hall to the Raiders? And there’s that ongoing saga in Dallas with Adam “Pacman” Jones. Hall has already been shipped out of town while Jones is hanging on by a thread.

With that said, here’s a look at the 10 most significant trades of 2008:

~ ~ ~ 5. Jonathan Vilma (from the Jets to the Saints)
Vilma has been a steady, although decidedly unspectacular, player for the Saints after they picked him up from the Jets in the offseason. He has 87 tackles and one interception for a defense that hasn’t gotten much better over the past two years. That’s an acceptable trade, for now. The problem is that Vilma could end up costing the Saints a second-round pick in 2009, which is not a great deal. Not terrible, but certainly not worth the overall results the Saints have gotten so far.

~ ~ 2. Kris Jenkins (from the Carolina Panthers to the Jets)
The Jets take the top two spots right now, which is a big reason why they’re in control of the AFC East. They picked up Jenkins for a couple of draft picks and all Jenkins is doing is playing like a Pro Bowler. He has 3½ sacks, the most he’s had since 2003 and he’s on pace for the second most of his career. More important, the highly emotional Jenkins dominates the point of attack in the middle. In short, he’s a beast. Carolina came out of the deal with a starting safety (Charles Godfrey) and a backup tight end (Gary Barnidge). Not terrible, particularly given that they’d grown tired of Jenkins’ moody ways.

~ 1. Favre (from the Packers to the Jets)
This deal probably won’t ever measure up to the Herschel Walker trade in terms of historical significance and it’s not as if Green Bay got ripped off (Aaron Rodgers looks like a good quarterback for years to come). But this trade could be along the lines of St. Louis getting Marshall Faulk from Indianapolis in 1999, when Faulk helped lead the Rams to a title. Anytime you deal for a guy who is worth discussing as an MVP candidate, you’re getting a good deal, even if the guy retires after one season. For those who thought Favre would be a dud in the second half (yours truly included), you’re looking really wrong right now.

Jason Cole is a national NFL writer for Yahoo! Sports. Send Jason a question or comment for potential use in a future column or webcast.
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Posted 28 November 2008 - 10:37 AM

QUOTE (kelly @ Nov 28 2008, 09:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Top trades: Jets pack 1-2 punch
By Jason Cole, Yahoo! Sports - Nov 26, 11:38 am EST

For a man who helped engineer what is shaping up to be one of the top trades in NFL history, New York Jets owner Woody Johnson didn’t seem all that interested in gloating about the move to get Brett Favre.“We’ve had a number of moves we made that have had to work out for us to get here,” Johnson said as he walked from the Jets locker room to his waiting car following New York’s 34-13 win over Tennessee in Nashville, Tenn., Sunday. “There’s a lot that has gone into this … getting Brett, yeah, that was the biggest move from a standpoint of attention. But it wasn’t the only one.”

“There’s a lot that’s gone into this. A lot of moves and a lot of work to make those moves successful.” Without question. Trades in the NFL are difficult to pull off, in part because of the massive number of moving parts. There’s no better proof than the series of significant trades made this year, ranging from the late high-profile deals of Favre, Jason Taylor and Jeremy Shockey to the more traditional moves featuring Jared Allen, Jonathan Vilma and Shaun Rogers.“The key to making any deal is to know exactly what you’re getting and how you’re going to make it work because the dynamics of any trade are so difficult to work out,” said Indianapolis Colts general manager Bill Polian, who swung an important deadline deal for defensive tackle Anthony McFarland in 2006 on the way to a Super Bowl win and then cancelled a deadline deal this year when Buffalo defensive tackle John McCargo failed a physical.

“You also have to have patience, because it takes a long time for you to see how it’s really going to work,” Polian said.That may explain why Johnson kept his happiness with the Favre deal under wraps. Yeah, things look great right now, but much can change.Amid the overreaction that goes with all things in New York – Jets fans and the media have gone from ripping Favre after he threw seven interceptions total in Weeks 6-8 to proclaiming the Big Apple the center of the football universe this year – there’s a tendency to lose sight of the fact that if not for another trade with a huge payoff, the Jets wouldn’t be here.Trading for defensive tackle Kris Jenkins has been almost as significant as getting Favre on offense. Given the massive changes the Jets made on defense in the offseason (dumping Dewayne Robertson and Jonathan Vilma), getting Jenkins and having him experience a career renaissance has been incalculably significant.Now of course, there were some trades made that went far from expected. Can you say: DeAngelo Hall to the Raiders? And there’s that ongoing saga in Dallas with Adam “Pacman” Jones. Hall has already been shipped out of town while Jones is hanging on by a thread.

With that said, here’s a look at the 10 most significant trades of 2008:

~ ~ ~ 5. Jonathan Vilma (from the Jets to the Saints)
Vilma has been a steady, although decidedly unspectacular, player for the Saints after they picked him up from the Jets in the offseason. He has 87 tackles and one interception for a defense that hasn’t gotten much better over the past two years. That’s an acceptable trade, for now. The problem is that Vilma could end up costing the Saints a second-round pick in 2009, which is not a great deal. Not terrible, but certainly not worth the overall results the Saints have gotten so far.

~ ~ 2. Kris Jenkins (from the Carolina Panthers to the Jets)
The Jets take the top two spots right now, which is a big reason why they’re in control of the AFC East. They picked up Jenkins for a couple of draft picks and all Jenkins is doing is playing like a Pro Bowler. He has 3½ sacks, the most he’s had since 2003 and he’s on pace for the second most of his career. More important, the highly emotional Jenkins dominates the point of attack in the middle. In short, he’s a beast. Carolina came out of the deal with a starting safety (Charles Godfrey) and a backup tight end (Gary Barnidge). Not terrible, particularly given that they’d grown tired of Jenkins’ moody ways.

~ 1. Favre (from the Packers to the Jets)
This deal probably won’t ever measure up to the Herschel Walker trade in terms of historical significance and it’s not as if Green Bay got ripped off (Aaron Rodgers looks like a good quarterback for years to come). But this trade could be along the lines of St. Louis getting Marshall Faulk from Indianapolis in 1999, when Faulk helped lead the Rams to a title. Anytime you deal for a guy who is worth discussing as an MVP candidate, you’re getting a good deal, even if the guy retires after one season. For those who thought Favre would be a dud in the second half (yours truly included), you’re looking really wrong right now.

Jason Cole is a national NFL writer for Yahoo! Sports. Send Jason a question or comment for potential use in a future column or webcast.
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There is also the Dewayne Robertson trade, which looks like we will end up getting nothing, but the most important thing is we were able to rid ourselves of his contract, so overall, getting a second for Vilma and getting rid of D-Robs contract, then getting Jenkins and Pace on Defense, I think we improved our core Defense pretty well.
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Posted 28 November 2008 - 03:01 PM

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Posted 28 November 2008 - 03:43 PM

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Posted 28 November 2008 - 04:00 PM

Does anyone know how it looks like all of our trades will end up? Between the Favre, Vilma, D Rob, etc trades? I don't really particularly feel like figuring it out.
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Posted 28 November 2008 - 04:06 PM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Nov 28 2008, 01:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Does anyone know how it looks like all of our trades will end up? Between the Favre, Vilma, D Rob, etc trades? I don't really particularly feel like figuring it out.


i think we will get a 2nd for vilma, a 4th for d-rob, we gave up a 3rd and 5th for jenkins, and were gonna give up a 2nd for favre (for making the playoffs or a 1st for the SB) so assuming favre takes us to the SB

we should have a
2nd (ours)
2nd (NO)
4th (den)
6th (ours)
7th (ours)
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Posted 28 November 2008 - 04:11 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Nov 28 2008, 04:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i think we will get a 2nd for vilma, a 4th for d-rob, we gave up a 3rd and 5th for jenkins, and were gonna give up a 2nd for favre (for making the playoffs or a 1st for the SB) so assuming favre takes us to the SB

we should have a
2nd (ours)
2nd (NO)
4th (den)
6th (ours)
7th (ours)


But the 3rd and 5th for Jenkins was in the last draft wasn't it...and I doubt we're getting anything for D Rob...doesn't play enough snaps. Is that all of them? WHy do I feel like there were more trades?

...so...you're pretty confident we're going to the superbowl huh?
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Posted 28 November 2008 - 04:35 PM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Nov 28 2008, 01:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But the 3rd and 5th for Jenkins was in the last draft wasn't it...and I doubt we're getting anything for D Rob...doesn't play enough snaps. Is that all of them? WHy do I feel like there were more trades?

...so...you're pretty confident we're going to the superbowl huh?


not really, just putting a worse case scenario. and ur right jenks was from last draft. and we will be in the playoffs unless something bizarre happens so it will be at least a 2nd for favre.
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Posted 28 November 2008 - 05:32 PM

We aren't getting shit for D Rob btw...read it in the New York Post earlier in the week....he hasn't played even close to the 65% snaps needed.


The situational role has served not only to keep Robertson fresh but produced other big-picture consequences. The Jets will receive nothing in terms of draft-pick compensation for Robertson if he plays less than 65 percent of the snaps this season. He is playing considerably less and isn't expected to approach that threshold by season's end.
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Posted 29 November 2008 - 02:57 AM

The Jets will receive a conditional pick for Vilma, hopefully a 2nd, and lose a conditional pick for Favre, hopefully a 1st. They will also have the 4th rounder from the Pete Kendall trade.
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Posted 29 November 2008 - 07:23 AM

I think the Jets knew they would end up getting nothing for D-Rob all along, they just had to rid themselves of his contract to get room under the cap.

I would gladly give up a first round pick for Favre if he brought us to the Super Bowl, it would be worth not having a pick in the first round just to get a chance to see something that hasn't happened in 40 years, I was only 2 so can't say I seen SB III.

And it would be one of the last picks in the first round anyway, not a big loss.
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Posted 29 November 2008 - 09:06 AM

QUOTE (VaNDelaYInDusTrIEs @ Nov 29 2008, 02:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The Jets will receive a conditional pick for Vilma, hopefully a 2nd, and lose a conditional pick for Favre, hopefully a 1st. They will also have the 4th rounder from the Pete Kendall trade.


really? from the kendall trade? wasn't that like 17 years ago?
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Posted 29 November 2008 - 01:00 PM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Nov 29 2008, 09:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
really? from the kendall trade? wasn't that like 17 years ago?

It was a 5th rounder last year that turned into a 4th rounder this year because Kendall played a certain percentage of their snaps. I forget exactly how much, probably around 80%.
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Posted 29 November 2008 - 02:08 PM

QUOTE (VaNDelaYInDusTrIEs @ Nov 28 2008, 11:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The Jets will receive a conditional pick for Vilma, hopefully a 2nd, and lose a conditional pick for Favre, hopefully a 1st. They will also have the 4th rounder from the Pete Kendall trade.


i'd give the 32nd pick in the draft for a SB title anyday.
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Posted 29 November 2008 - 03:35 PM

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i'd give the 32nd pick in the draft for a SB title anyday.


All they have to do is go to the Super Bowl and they give up their number one to Green Bay, not win it.
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