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ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
santana Icon : (24 April 2015 - 11:32 PM) TEH WIZ
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:57 AM) Teh Suarez
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 07:00 AM) Until next time fellas!
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 01:19 PM) Helloooooooooo
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 01:19 PM) Bueller
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 01:33 PM) Manish says the Jets should trade down and draft Andrus Peat round 1
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 04:39 PM) Even an idiot can say something that's right every now and then
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Posted 29 May 2005 - 02:30 PM

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Posted 31 May 2005 - 11:35 AM

hahaha what is wrong with that woman?
she must have been moaning for about 5 minutes
i did notice as soon as the one officer walked away to get a glove she stopped though...until he started to come back
is it true though ron that police arent allowed to clock you while they're driving?
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Posted 31 May 2005 - 11:52 AM

QUOTE (haveyouseenpenningtonplay @ May 31 2005, 12:10 PM)
hahaha what is wrong with that woman?
she must have been moaning for about 5 minutes
i did notice as soon as the one officer walked away to get a glove she stopped though...until he started to come back
is it true though ron that police arent allowed to clock you while they're driving?

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Posted 31 May 2005 - 12:08 PM

He means for sppeding. And the answer is yes because the laser won’t be able to give an accurate reading but they can guage your spped meaning if they go to court they will say I drove 75 and still didn’t gain any distance then drove about 80 and was heading at the same speed so I estimate his speed to be around 80.
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Posted 31 May 2005 - 02:29 PM

btw guys...in college, chad did a report on how radar guns should not be used to clock driving speed and how it can be innacurate. That just shows how smart he is, thats our QB!
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Posted 31 May 2005 - 05:50 PM

QUOTE (x80NyJeTs28x @ May 31 2005, 03:04 PM)
btw guys...in college, chad did a report on how radar guns should not be used to clock driving speed and how it can be innacurate.  That just shows how smart he is, thats our QB!

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Posted 31 May 2005 - 06:30 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ May 31 2005, 12:43 PM)
He means for sppeding. And the answer is yes because the laser won’t be able to give an accurate reading but they can guage your spped meaning if they go to court they will say I drove 75 and still didn’t gain any distance then drove about 80 and was heading at the same speed so I estimate his speed to be around 80.


Actually we pace the car. All we have to do is get behind and match speed for a block or two at most.
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Posted 31 May 2005 - 08:57 PM

sounds reasonable
too bad that chick wasn't
hahaha i love that clicking sound the taser makes
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Posted 31 May 2005 - 09:46 PM

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Posted 16 June 2005 - 01:32 PM

that was a terrible example of law and order and to protect and to serve.
we are slaves and we have no rights unless we have the money to pay for justice.
just know in the world in which christs rules there will only be police whom protect and serve.most police are stooges of the law and don't really know it. don't expect me to defend this point of view it show i feel. but anyone else who knows the evolution of law thru history could make a good argument for me and the woman.:]
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Posted 16 June 2005 - 09:49 PM

Obedience and Subservience
by William L. Anderson
by William L. Anderson



The recent incident in Boynton Beach, Florida, in which a police officer hit a 22-year-old woman twice with a 50 thousand-volt taser gun, is being played out in the usual manner: all heat and no light. Yet, beyond all of the rhetoric that has accompanied the aftermath of this action, we can see that it represents a much deeper problem in our society – and tells us just how far we have strayed from our roots of liberty.

For those not familiar with the story, the officer stopped the woman for a routine traffic violation. When he walked to her vehicle, she was talking on her cell phone and did not end the conversation when the officer ordered her to do so. He then told her to get out of the car; she did not respond. (She still was talking on the phone.)

The officer then told her to get out of the car or he would "tase" her. When she did not respond, he shocked her and she screamed. He then shocked her again, after she had fallen to the ground. He and his partner then handcuffed her and led her off to a patrol car.

The woman was black and the officer was white, which is how much of the story is being framed. Unfortunately, that does not do justice to what happened, as it clearly was not a racial incident in the way we might think of such a thing happening.

I make that claim because from what I could see, the officer would have done the same thing had the motorist been a white man or a white, pregnant woman. The issue here is not race; rather the real issue is whether or not we are to "obey" people in authority or be subservient to them. In my lifetime, I have seen Americans become increasingly subservient to government officials – who, in turn, have seized more and more power over our individual lives.

Once upon a time, a "poorly-trained" local police officer (who most likely would not have stopped the woman for the minor offense in the first place) would have walked to the window and started talking to the woman. Had she refused to end the phone conversation, he simply would have started writing a ticket, and had she been belligerent, he would have shrugged his shoulders and left the ticket with her.

Yes, the "poorly-trained" officer might have said something smart to her, but almost surely under the old rules of police work, this would not have turned into a national incident. Today, however, police officers are trained in "military" style. Those people who can access the video can see that he is acting like a marine or some other "roger reg" officer. Police officers trained in "modern" academies are taught that they immediate must "get control of the situation."

Now, in some situations that might be appropriate; a routine traffic stop of a woman talking on her cell phone is not one of them. In the "bad, old days," a police officer would have recognized the difference and accounted for it. However, today, "modern" academies teach that everyone is a criminal and that police officers are to have total contempt for the public. Furthermore, their training makes clear that police are to ensure that everyone obeys them, and obedience in this case is nothing less than full subservience. Anything else is treated as a threat and dealt with accordingly.

In the not-so-distant past, raids conducted by law enforcement officers were rare events. They were saved for situations in which the lives of officers – and others – clearly could be at stake, and were conducted only when no other alternative was available.

Today, raids are commonplace and often are conducted where it is obvious that the only people who are armed are police. "Law enforcement" entities that are part of federal agencies like the IRS have more than 100 "SWAT" teams that do nothing but conduct raids. I have spoken to people who have gone through the experience of being raided, and it is extremely frightening. Police officers armed with automatic weapons and who often are hyped beyond anything normal people would call sane, burst into workplaces brandishing their loaded guns, screaming orders and obscenities. Raids ostensibly are carried out to deal with dangerous people, but in the vast majority of raids today, the only "dangerous" individuals are the "law enforcement" personnel, many of whom obviously are itching to be able to gun down somebody – anybody.

The purpose of the modern raid, of course, is not to ensure the capture of the "bad guys" or to protect the lives of officers, but rather to send a message to the rest of us: government officials can do what they want when they want. The rest of us are scum and peons.

After viewing the video of the torture of that poor woman (remember, it is a war crime to use a taser on someone held as a prisoner of war), I went to a blog where people posted comments. While some were outraged, many others posted the "we need to obey the police" platitudes ad nauseum. No one, however, was able to see the larger picture. Blacks were outraged that a white officer had zapped a black woman, and others simply raged against the police.

Yes, the woman should have ended her phone call. I say that not because she should have been subservient to the cop who approached her, but rather because she – and the rest of us – must understand that when we are approached by a police officer, all too often the person coming toward us is armed and dangerous. And has a license to kill, or at least inflict torture – and suffer no legal sanctions for his actions.

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Posted 16 June 2005 - 09:52 PM

here is more about taser's

http://www.infowars....ers_archive.htm
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Posted 17 June 2005 - 11:24 AM

gmany3k... You are totally missing the core of this story. Why did he tell her to turn off the cell phone? Because a routine check of her license came back suspended. If she were a respectful motorist she might not have even received a ticket for speeding. When I pull someone over, if they show me respect and do not have a load of criminal history 9 times out of 10 they will get a warning. The officer had discretion and had the right to arrest her for this violation and tow the car. Look at the facts for officer safety and her own. He ordered her to shut off the cell phone and step out of the vehicle. She refused. When his partner attempted to take the cell phone in order to remove her she smacked at the officer and all this after being warned that she would be tased. When she swung at the officer, that is considered resisting an officer with violence. She was tased to not only protect the officers but to keep her from getting injured. If two officers would have had to drag her out of the vehicle and taken her down to the ground, someone could have easily gotten hurt. In this case, there were no injuries, other than the bruise from where she ripped out the prong. I have taken a taser hit and it is painful. Very painful, but the pain stops the instant the taser is shut down. There is no lingering effects.

Call it what you want, but if a person breaks the law they are in the wrong and should try to help themselves instead of making it worse.
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Posted 17 June 2005 - 11:41 AM

To the untrained eye, it looks like police brutality.....the video lacks the facts that you (Ronny) have said. I sometimes feel like using a taser to subdue a lady on a cell phone with a suspended license is a little extreme, but then again, she was not helpfull or cooperating with the officers either. It is funny to me, because I kiss the officers ass and treat him or her witht he utmost respect to avoid any trouble (although it never gets me out of a ticket...lol), but I don't want to be tazed, then on this website to be made fun of....lol...
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Posted 17 June 2005 - 12:05 PM

QUOTE (JSOTF @ Jun 17 2005, 12:16 PM)
To the untrained eye, it looks like police brutality.....the video lacks the facts that you (Ronny) have said.  I sometimes feel like using a taser to subdue a lady on a cell phone with a suspended license is a little extreme, but then again, she was not helpfull or cooperating with the officers either.  It is funny to me, because I kiss the officers ass and treat him or her witht he utmost respect to avoid any trouble (although it never gets me out of a ticket...lol), but I don't want to be tazed, then on this website to be made fun of....lol...

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Kissing ass won't work on traffic cops. They are a whole different breed of cop. They would probably give another cop a ticket.

Personally I wouldn't have tased her, but if i dragged her out of the car, she probably would have gotten hurt. scare.gif
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Posted 17 June 2005 - 03:15 PM

QUOTE (ronnydynamic @ Jun 17 2005, 10:40 AM)
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Kissing ass won't work on traffic cops.  They are a whole different breed of cop.  They would probably give another cop a ticket.

Personally I wouldn't have tased her, but if i dragged her out of the car, she probably would have gotten hurt.  scare.gif



so thats what I am doing wrong......lol.....I guess if you would have dragged her out of the car, she would have broke her neck and sued for millions....... rtfm.gif
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Posted 17 June 2005 - 04:02 PM

thanks RON all I could do was listen to the audio on your link i could not see the video. I LOOKED AROUND THE WEB and found some links which I posted above.
it sounded awful.............I don't always agree with the law they don't always serve the public and we know its getting to militeristic in nature.but this is too deep even for me.I hope that you are protected by the grace of GOD to do your job while he is watching you that you can discern between his own children.
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