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Posted 13 January 2007 - 04:50 PM

This guy is a monster! I really wish we had him. He is a huge space eater, I m watching the Colts Ravens game and he made a nice tackle at the line. That guy just doesnt move, imagen him being our NT, that would be sick!
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 04:55 PM

him and wilfork on the pats are really good nts. i dont think there is one of them to go after in the draft.
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 05:08 PM

Ngata is not their NT, Kelly Gregg is. When the Ravens go into a 3-4 base Ngata moves out to DE.
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 05:15 PM

Meanwhile we draft a 280 pound LT
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 05:20 PM

QUOTE (DewayneDontSign @ Jan 13 2007, 02:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ngata is not their NT, Kelly Gregg is. When the Ravens go into a 3-4 base Ngata moves out to DE.


exactly. ngata is more of a d-rob/ 3 technique tackle. why woudl we draft one of those? espicially wehn we had jones or cavka as our starting LT and a top prospect is on the board
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 05:45 PM

QUOTE (EvanstonJet @ Jan 13 2007, 05:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Meanwhile we draft a 280 pound LT

Shouldn't you be out on a ledge somewhere?
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 05:52 PM

Ngata is not like Robertson, he is a natural NT. He is a space eater, just a athletic one. He isnt a guy that gets sacks, he is a guy that just eats up double teams and takes people off the LBs. Plus they dont play a real 3-4, they just have Suggs stand up then say its a 3-4, its a joker one.
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 05:55 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 13 2007, 03:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ngata is not like Robertson, he is a natural NT. He is a space eater, just a athletic one. He isnt a guy that gets sacks, he is a guy that just eats up double teams and takes people off the LBs. Plus they dont play a real 3-4, they just have Suggs stand up then say its a 3-4, its a joker one.

its still a real 3-4. same way we do with bryan thomas. he is a joker (whic comes for the term jokers are a wild card,) cause he's a wild card on defense. he can line up anywhere
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 05:56 PM

QUOTE (EvanstonJet @ Jan 13 2007, 05:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Meanwhile we draft a 280 pound LT

if it werent for ferguson i bet u either chad would be injured and we wouldnt make the playoffs or we wouldnt had made the playoffs and chad wouldnt be comeback player of the year, btw as long as something unexpectedly gay doesnt happen im gonna be a proud owner of a jersey of that 280 pound LT
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 05:57 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Jan 13 2007, 06:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
its still a real 3-4. same way we do with bryan thomas. he is a joker (whic comes for the term jokers are a wild card,) cause he's a wild card on defense. he can line up anywhere

True. They are still a 46 defense.
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 06:15 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 13 2007, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
True. They are still a 46 defense.


no there not. they scrapped that. there a base 4-3 defense now
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 06:17 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Jan 13 2007, 06:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
no there not. they scrapped that. there a base 4-3 defense now

either way its not a 3-4.
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 06:25 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 13 2007, 06:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
either way its not a 3-4.


but they play a lot of 3-4 during the game
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 06:36 PM

its like us. were a 3-4 base but use alot of 4-3. espicially on 3rd and long i've noticed. most teams use a hybrid. ravens are a base 4-3 right now
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 06:39 PM

Just saying, when they do, do that "Joker" 3-4, they dont line Ngata at DE, he is really playing at the DT postion were he normally would be, and Suggs would be standing were he would normaly be at. We did that defense in 2004, we had John Abraham stand up.
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 07:49 PM

QUOTE (EvanstonJet @ Jan 13 2007, 06:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Meanwhile we draft a 280 pound LT


Too bad that has nothing to do with what we are talking about. Tackles can and should be lighter because they go up against defensive ends, not defensive tackles. Defensive ends are usually lighter and faster and therefor you need athletic tackles, especially your blindside tackle. But its ok, you know nothing about football, so all we can do here is teach you.
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 08:00 PM

Ferguson will weigh around 320 by training camp. He said that he is going to rest for a week and get away from football then he is going back to work and going a weight program to gain weight and strength.
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 08:16 PM

QUOTE (HartAttack @ Jan 13 2007, 05:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Too bad that has nothing to do with what we are talking about. Tackles can and should be lighter because they go up against defensive ends, not defensive tackles. Defensive ends are usually lighter and faster and therefor you need athletic tackles, especially your blindside tackle. But its ok, you know nothing about football, so all we can do here is teach you.


exactly the bets tackles are usually smaller athletic guys cause Des are smller and athletic. here are the numbers

some of teh best DEs

Freeny 268lbs
mathis 245lbs
kearse 265
abraham 256
peppers 283
burgess 260
schobel 262
taylor 255
van den bosch 278
strahan 255


now some of the best LTs
Roaf 320
Jones 308
ogden 345




brick is 312
Get it done MT
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Posted 14 January 2007 - 04:05 PM

they're a hybrid, they switch between 4-3 and 3-4 by using terrell suggs as a down lineman or linebacker and no way they are a 4-6......ed reed plays way out in center field and he would be their 8th man in the box
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