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Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:37 PM) Corey Ivy CB
36 Jim Leonhard SS/PR
43 Haruki Nakamura FS
25 Evan Oglesby CB
20 Ed Reed FS
22 Samari Rolle CB
39 Daren Stone FS
41 Frank Walker CB
31 Fabian Washington in 2008
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:39 PM) Reed is a HOF but Rolle was way past his prime
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) SNOOPY BOWL FRIDAY!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
518-JeTS-FaN Icon : (20 August 2014 - 08:54 AM) disgusted with my local programming, instead of jets and giants they are airing the raiders vs packers..wtf
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 09:23 AM) Glad I don't live up there anymore haha
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The JETS are #6 in the Forbes List for most franchise value
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The Buffalo Jills are #31 and the Miami Dolphags are #16 respectively
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 07:00 PM) The JETS are worth $1.8 billion
jet-man Icon : (20 August 2014 - 10:03 PM) that's less than the clippers
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 01:07 PM) I'm very excited with the amount of preseason touchdowns the Jets have
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 03:21 PM) FIRE IDZIK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 07:22 PM) Calvin Pryor and Darrin Walls will start tomorrow
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 08:52 PM) The SIMPSONS MARATHON has been on for almost 12 hours...
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 08:57 PM) Sanchez looks so much more confident and better in Chip's offense than he did with us
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 09:50 PM) EVERY SIMPSONS EVER!!!!!
2JBallar01 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:10 AM) Sanchez is looking good for the eagles. Crazy how a good offense and the right system can make you look so much better. When you're put into a situatuon to succeed, magic happens. Happy for Sanchez, i think he needed a change just as much as the Jets did.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:02 AM) Preseason doesn't matter at all
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:10 AM) anyone have a stream for the preseaosn agme by chance?
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:06 PM) Don't read to much into Mark in the preseason. He usually looked good in the preseason even in a Jets uniform.. Big difference from regular season where the 1st string defense is playing 100%.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:09 PM) A lot of 1st stringers are just getting reps in and trying not to get injured. Its only the backups trying to keep or get a job playing hard every down. If preseason qb play meant anything then Matt Simms would be the starting qb of the Jets.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 12:00 AM) In Geno we trust
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Could This Controversy Ruin Giants Season and hurt there franchise

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 12:09 PM

with buress probably done for the year (there best WR by far) the giants are looking thin at WR. toomer and hixon will start and moss and smith are the 3rd and 4th WRs. thats not looking good

plus teh leader of there defense (pierce) is under investigation for hiding the gun that plex shot himself with. he could see a suspension that could take him away for teh playoffs and the giants are thin at LBer

also buress is facing 3.5 years minimum sentence meaning his career will likely be over

I think everything is just falling in place for us, our main competition lost its starting QB (brady)
The team that looked the best in the NFC lost its best WR for the season and now possibly its best defensive player.
Favre fell in our laps

what else could go our way
Get it done MT
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Posted 30 November 2008 - 12:23 PM

we resign richardson another year and favre comes back and we goto back to back bowls smile.gif
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Posted 30 November 2008 - 01:10 PM

This controversy will help the Giants big time. Maybe repeat as champs. They did well without Shockey last year. They won't skip a beat. They have capable back ups.
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Posted 30 November 2008 - 01:14 PM

This will not help them at all. Plax is a focal point teams key on all game and a big reason teams play soft. Teams will now load the box and dare them to pass. No Shockey,No plax, Brandon Jacobs banged up. It's going to be a long road from here on out.

This will have a ripple effect and of the positive variety.
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Posted 30 November 2008 - 01:20 PM

QUOTE (reg83ny @ Nov 30 2008, 01:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This controversy will help the Giants big time. Maybe repeat as champs. They did well without Shockey last year. They won't skip a beat. They have capable back ups.



Took the words right out of my mouth...they'll be fine. They may lose a talented player...but they get rid of a huge distraction.
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Posted 30 November 2008 - 01:41 PM

The Giants offense is not focused around Plaxico. Their offense is led by their running game and Eli. As long as that part of their game is intact then they'll be fine. Their offensive line is so good that it doesn't matter how many people you stack in the box they'll still run it down your throat. Another good example that Plaxico is not the focal point is that Steve Smith leads the Giants in receptions this year, not Plaxico. And if you've seen all of their games then you know that they've actually played better without Plaxico this year.
“We know we’re better than you, we don’t give a f*ck if you know it or not, we don’t give a sh*t if you give us your best game, we’re gonna give you our best game and we’re gonna beat the f*ck outta ya. How’s that?”

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 01:45 PM

QUOTE (S-Dubb @ Nov 30 2008, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This will not help them at all. Plax is a focal point teams key on all game and a big reason teams play soft. Teams will now load the box and dare them to pass. No Shockey,No plax, Brandon Jacobs banged up. It's going to be a long road from here on out.

This will have a ripple effect and of the positive variety.


They're dominating the Redskins right now. The loss of Shockey was the most overrated story of the off-season. Plax can obviously take over a game but he's really been non-existent this year. Brandon Jacobs is healthy now and even if he wasn't they basically have 2 starters behind him in Bradshaw and Ward. They're loaded!

UPDATE

They were dominating, not anymore though, lol.
“We know we’re better than you, we don’t give a f*ck if you know it or not, we don’t give a sh*t if you give us your best game, we’re gonna give you our best game and we’re gonna beat the f*ck outta ya. How’s that?”

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 02:36 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Nov 30 2008, 12:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
with buress probably done for the year (there best WR by far) the giants are looking thin at WR. toomer and hixon will start and moss and smith are the 3rd and 4th WRs. thats not looking good

plus teh leader of there defense (pierce) is under investigation for hiding the gun that plex shot himself with. he could see a suspension that could take him away for teh playoffs and the giants are thin at LBer

also buress is facing 3.5 years minimum sentence meaning his career will likely be over

I think everything is just falling in place for us, our main competition lost its starting QB (brady)
The team that looked the best in the NFC lost its best WR for the season and now possibly its best defensive player.
Favre fell in our laps

what else could go our way


You would.....


Come on man. Burress hasn't even done anything overly impressive this year (35 for 454, 4 tds). By comparison, Hixon has 21 for 302 and a td. That team just plugs in backups and doesn't miss a beat. If anything, they lose a huge pain-in-the-ass distraction, as Hurricane said.

The only thing that may affect them is a potential Pierce loss. And can we worry about the Pats, Steelers, Colts, etc.... not the Giants?
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