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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 12:54 AM

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we have to look at the 15-25 ranger for a player. those options based on our needs are

17 Charles Johnson DE 6-2 275
Built alot like a.thomas of the ravens if he can run a 4.6 40 (which i'm not sure of) he could maybe be a good OLB for us. i'm concerened that he turns out to be a workout warrioir like d-rob. he only had 1 sack all year so production wasn't there.

21 lawerence Timmons
as a back-up had 8 tackles and 2 sacks in the championship game of 2005. i couldn't find anything on his 2006 season. undersized though (6-3 230) could possibly be a good LB for us.

22 Adam Carriker
6-6 295 lbs. big enough to be kimos replacement. we need a DE if d-rob is gonna stay at NT.

24 Marshal Yanda
6-4 305. versitile lineman. i doubt we do it since we used 2 1st rounders last year on them but he can play Guard or Tackle. could be clements or kendalls replacement and we know were gonna need to soon

25. Anthony Spencer
DE in college. for us would be an OLB 6-3 261lbs. perfect size to line up opposite of b.thomas in the 3-4no sacks or INTs all year makes me weary. i don't like players who are ranke dhigh but didn't produce in college.


maybe some college fans can shed some light on these players?
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 01:20 AM

well since marshawn lynch is rated as top 10, he wont drop all the way to 25. granted, he will drop slightly since few teams do not already have their #1 RB but he probably won't get past the packers at pick 16. if its true that lamarr woodley along with quentin moses, both players that are between 6'2-6'4 255-265 lbs, and thus best suited as 3-4 OLBs or small rush DEs in the 4-3 have dropped in stock, we should take carriker with the #25th pick if lynch is gone which he most likely will be. then we can gamble on getting either moses, who i though will be sick as a 3-4 OLB, demarcus ware-type player, woodley or spencer for our OLB. im sure 1 of them will even be there for our 2nd 2nd rounder (57th overall) which means we can either take micheal bush at 37 or trade it for turner or portis, whichever one we can get. this is definitely turning out to be a pretty good draft for OLBs, we just need to get carriker at 25 to solidy our dline.
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 01:29 AM

i say we trade up for lynch or get turner
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 01:54 AM

adam carricker is not what we need because d-rob should play DE and were set with ellis on the other side...........i f we trade up we should look at alan branch instead of lynch and no shot moses is there in the 2nd round....the D needs to get faster so i say moses in the 1st.....zach miller in the 2nd rd.........and tony hunt in the 3rd
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 06:47 AM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Jan 16 2007, 01:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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25. Anthony Spencer
DE in college. for us would be an OLB 6-3 261lbs. perfect size to line up opposite of b.thomas in the 3-4no sacks or INTs all year makes me weary. i don't like players who are ranke dhigh but didn't produce in college.
maybe some college fans can shed some light on these players?



Anthony Spencer is one of my favorite players in the draft and IMO is the top prospect at 3-4 OLB. He is 6-3 261 and runs a 4.6. I don't know where you got his stats from because he produced insanely this year, 93 tackles, 26.5 tackles for loss, 10.5 sacks, 6 pass deflections, 5 forced fumbles and blocked a kick. He is a monster and reminds me of Terrell Suggs.
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 09:01 AM

QUOTE (DewayneDontSign @ Jan 16 2007, 07:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anthony Spencer is one of my favorite players in the draft and IMO is the top prospect at 3-4 OLB. He is 6-3 261 and runs a 4.6. I don't know where you got his stats from because he produced insanely this year, 93 tackles, 26.5 tackles for loss, 10.5 sacks, 6 pass deflections, 5 forced fumbles and blocked a kick. He is a monster and reminds me of Terrell Suggs.


Yea those are godly numbers. I remember bring him up just before the college season started. Mayock had a huge thing on him on his show. This guy just know's how to get to the Q.B and is an absolute Mangini type player. I like him alot as well and would be a great catch. I think he needs to throw on some more weight though. Just a litte
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 10:10 AM

Mel Kiper's Big Boad has absolutely nothing to do with when guy's will be drafted. The Big Board doesn't account for draft order or team needs. Which are the biggest reasons for where someone gets drafted.

This is just the best player's available...if team's were starting over...this is how it might look. But because not every team needs a RB...RB's might not go that high...etc...

Get Mel Kiper off these boards!!! haha
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 10:32 AM

QUOTE (DewayneDontSign @ Jan 16 2007, 04:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anthony Spencer is one of my favorite players in the draft and IMO is the top prospect at 3-4 OLB. He is 6-3 261 and runs a 4.6. I don't know where you got his stats from because he produced insanely this year, 93 tackles, 26.5 tackles for loss, 10.5 sacks, 6 pass deflections, 5 forced fumbles and blocked a kick. He is a monster and reminds me of Terrell Suggs.


based on those numbers and his size and speed i'd love to have him. i got my stats through a google search but i guess they were wrong
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 11:06 AM

QUOTE (DewayneDontSign @ Jan 16 2007, 12:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anthony Spencer is one of my favorite players in the draft and IMO is the top prospect at 3-4 OLB. He is 6-3 261 and runs a 4.6. I don't know where you got his stats from because he produced insanely this year, 93 tackles, 26.5 tackles for loss, 10.5 sacks, 6 pass deflections, 5 forced fumbles and blocked a kick. He is a monster and reminds me of Terrell Suggs.


Those numbers are insane and by the sounds of it he would give us a true pass rushing threat.

As we spent two first on the OLine last year I don't think we should go after an OLineman with our 1st two picks this year; they should be spent on RB, a 3-4 OLB and DE/NT.
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 11:30 AM

im dying for us to get a 3-4 pass rusher in the mold of merriman or ware.....those guys are lethal and would take our D to the next level........i love thomas from the ravens as FA but he is 30 i would prefer to get a young guy and have him around for a decade
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 11:40 AM

no ones mentioning cornerback in the draft and i forgot about it for a second....i wouldnt be surprised to see us draft a CB in the first round or atleast one of our second round picks. its just as likely as halfback or nose tackle

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