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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Post icon  Posted 08 September 2008 - 12:53 AM

I'm only going to touch on Brady's situation for a brief moment then I'll move on. There are some posters here who want the magic medical fariy to repair and heal Bradys MCL or ACL just so if or when we beat them we can say we beat Brady. I say, HOGWASH!!.. Take it for what it is. The reality is he's done for the season or damn near close. This blows the AFC and more importantly the AFC East wide open. When a bunch of Jackel take down wild oxen they chew at his legs and tail until he slows down. Once he becomes weak they go for the throat. We are the Jackel.

Anyways on to the Jets. This is only one game and we played and we played it against a Q.B that knows our defense inside and out and we won. Couple that with Brett being here for only a short time. New players, such as Faneca and Woody meshing with Bricks,Gold and Moore and Brett trying to gain a feel for our WR's. Anyone notice Jerricho at flanker?... yes, this is because the flanker is the #1WR position and Favre has the most rapport with him. Coles playing against other teams "2's" is going to be dangerous for us when Favre finds a comfort level with him.

On the best of the best packer teams Favre has been on he's never had this much talent on one team at the same time. Coles,Cotchery,Keller,Baker,Franks,Stuckey,Smith with a solid OL (only to get better with time). Just wait until the offense starts to get operating like a well tuned machine. The running game is there, which means the play action is there, which means we are going to be able to make teams play OUR game not theirs. We are going to be able to dictate the tempo.

THE DEFENSE!! I mean do I have to explain? Revis locked down his side of the field today, Kerry Rhodes is automatic and our pass rush is only going to get more fierce with time.

This team is a superbowl contender. I was really happy with how we played for a bunch of new guys getting acquainted with each other. There are 15 more games and whole shit load of practices. This team is going to be a force this year.

Our time is now fellas!



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Posted 08 September 2008 - 09:21 AM

QUOTE (S-Dubb @ Sep 8 2008, 01:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm only going to touch on Brady's situation for a brief moment then I'll move on. There are some posters here who want the magic medical fariy to repair and heal Bradys MCL or ACL just so if or when we beat them we can say we beat Brady. I say, HOGWASH!!.. Take it for what it is. The reality is he's done for the season or damn near close. This blows the AFC and more importantly the AFC East wide open. When a bunch of Jackel take down wild oxen they chew at his legs and tail until he slows down. Once he becomes weak they go for the throat. We are the Jackel.

Anyways on to the Jets. This is only one game and we played and we played it against a Q.B that knows our defense inside and out and we won. Couple that with Brett being here for only a short time. New players, such as Faneca and Woody meshing with Bricks,Gold and Moore and Brett trying to gain a feel for our WR's. Anyone notice Jerricho at flanker?... yes, this is because the flanker is the #1WR position and Favre has the most rapport with him. Coles playing against other teams "2's" is going to be dangerous for us when Favre finds a comfort level with him.

On the best of the best packer teams Favre has been on he's never had this much talent on one team at the same time. Coles,Cotchery,Keller,Baker,Franks,Stuckey,Smith with a solid OL (only to get better with time). Just wait until the offense starts to get operating like a well tuned machine. The running game is there, which means the play action is there, which means we are going to be able to make teams play OUR game not theirs. We are going to be able to dictate the tempo.

THE DEFENSE!! I mean do I have to explain? Revis locked down his side of the field today, Kerry Rhodes is automatic and our pass rush is only going to get more fierce with time.

This team is a superbowl contender. I was really happy with how we played for a bunch of new guys getting acquainted with each other. There are 15 more games and whole shit load of practices. This team is going to be a force this year.

Our time is now fellas!




Agreed on all counts Dubb! I can understand why some people would want the Jets to beat the Pats with Brady as opposed to without him, I really do. Hell, I was looking forward to seeing Favre vs. Brady on Sunday, but I'll take any break for our team how I can get it. Think about it this way. My rugby team had a game this week against this team that beat us 39-7 last season. We ended up beating them on Saturday by a score of 19-10. The difference is though that this team only had 5 of their 15 starters return. Nobody is going to put an asterisk by our win saying it was cheap or anything like that, just like nobody is going to put an asterisk on the Jets season if it turns out how we all hope it will. The entire landscape of this division just changed. Enjoy this ride everyone and don't feel miserable because Tom Brady isn't there for us to beat him. I always say karma is a bitch, looks like I'm right at this point in time.
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Posted 08 September 2008 - 10:02 AM

I gotta say this, I made the mistake of agreeing on a previous post about hoping some guy would go after Bradys leg with the intent to injure it. I certainly did not really wish injury - especially such a serious injury on any football player. So I appologize to the board for that.

As I said earlier, I wont believe anything here until it is official....cant trust bellicheat....

On to the Jets, looked much better than I imagined, Favre is magical, and that is the only way to call it. Jones ran better than I have seen in a while.....I am looking forward to next week....
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Posted 08 September 2008 - 10:16 AM

I expected growing pains from the start . And it was always a matter of time for Brady / Manning to get hurt . which should be a tell tale sign that Farve is not immune to injury . we still need to fight and claw for deep penetration into the playoffs but thats to far thinking ahead. Farve is a high risk high reward proposition and the probability just went up.{high reward} biggrin.gif
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Posted 08 September 2008 - 10:34 AM

I like your thinking though I will wait to see what happens next week before I get too excited. This game is huge (even in wek 2) and needs to come off as almost a statement game.
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Posted 08 September 2008 - 11:19 AM

This is a dangerous time for Jets fans. We are usually very guarded in our optimism, because we've been let down so many times. I've upped my expecatations a little bit but I'm not going to think we're one of the top echelon teams in the AFC quite yet. I need to see a more dominant performance.
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Posted 08 September 2008 - 11:32 AM

QUOTE (nysackexchange @ Sep 8 2008, 12:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is a dangerous time for Jets fans. We are usually very guarded in our optimism, because we've been let down so many times. I've upped my expecatations a little bit but I'm not going to think we're one of the top echelon teams in the AFC quite yet. I need to see a more dominant performance.


That is the mentality that Every Die Hard JETS fan should be saying to themselves right now...no need to start crowning the JETS as SB XLIII champions when we only have won 1 game and we have a very tough opponent next week but I truly believe this is the chance the JETS need to take the bull by the horns and control thier own destiny and let the dust settle when it's all said and done...let's take the positives from yesterdays victory and the negatives also and improve upon them and just continue to improve every week and still keep the grounded mentality that the season is still young and the only way to go is up
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Posted 08 September 2008 - 03:28 PM

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Well I like your argument and I hope you are right.We need a Superbowl bad.But in all honesty it is to early to say the Jets are a Superbowl contender after one game, and a game against a team that was 1-15 last year.You should know as well as anyone things can change from week to week.The Jets looked good but I saw a good bit of issues too that if not fixed will kill us against better teams.
You must seriously be hitting that pipe this year because I have seen some erroneous comments from you this year like I have never seen before.Either you are trying to pump everyone up or I dont know what.I have never known you to be a band wagon guy before. What gives?
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Posted 08 September 2008 - 04:43 PM

Look if the Cowgirls can be claimed superbowl contenders by having a a good Q.B,WR's,TE,Defense and running game. Then why can't we?

The road to the superbowl ran through Foxborough, thats not the case anymore. I've actually never EVER said the words"superbowl contender" and "jets" in the same sentence for years but if any year looks to be ours then this would be the one.
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Posted 08 September 2008 - 08:17 PM

I like your thinking.
We can come out and get game two and then the hipe to the game with Chargers, this is then a special year for us.
Just imagine being 3-0, hasn't happened for a while and after last year know how you are excited.
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