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Jets win 3-1. Beat dolphins so bad that philbin isnt allowed back from england.
Jetsman05 Icon : (07 October 2015 - 06:30 AM) Rob you're brutal
MikeGangGree... Icon : (07 October 2015 - 01:30 PM) Who should I start this week in fantasy football? Its a PPR league. I can start 3 of the WRs Edelman-/D-Thomas/Mike Evans/James Jones
MikeGangGree... Icon : (07 October 2015 - 01:30 PM) Edelman and Thomas are must start
MikeGangGree... Icon : (07 October 2015 - 01:31 PM) So do I start Evans against Jax or James Jones vs STL
Jetsfan115 Icon : (07 October 2015 - 01:45 PM) jones. winston likes jackson more then evans
RetireChrebet Icon : (08 October 2015 - 01:47 PM) My two year old daughter is less manic and is able to maintain her composure much better than someone we know here ....
azjetfan Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:07 PM) Dolphins have also fired their DC
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:24 PM) I am composed. 115 and I may see things differently but he has never pissed me off. He is just trying to make his point of view and I mine nothing more
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:25 PM) I just feel the rule is a very bad rule to give the offense the ball back for losing the ball in the endzone because of a batted ball and feel the NFL is far to offense firendly these days thats all
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:27 PM) I know many agree with that. I get that many changes have been made to limit things like brain damage and other injuries some season ending and career ending but defenses cant play hard like they used to and pathetic calls on defenses have ruinbed many games.
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:29 PM) Thats why brought up the Jets Fish game. The balls were clearly uncatcahable and a light tug on the jersey shouldn't be a pi. Whatever happened to the uncatchable ball rule?"
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:33 PM) and as far as that montage I did have ESPN on for 2 hours after the game because I wanted to see all the reactions and get a clear understanding of this old rule and I never saw a bunch of clips where flags were thrown for the play in question. So I asked for proof. If it was on ESPN it wasn't on ESPN1 maybe ESPN 2 ,3 or news. Its not wrong or brutal to ask for proof when he stated he saw it on ESPN I had the channel on and didn't see what he claimed he saw and still haven't seen any video of proof of his claims
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:36 PM) But as I said not mad at all. 115 and I are cool and always have been Ive never been mad at him in anyway. This is a fan forum and we dispute. If we all agreed on everything there would be no point of the forum. Disputes on stats and calls make things interesting, and makes each of use see things from different points of view
Jetsfan115 Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:56 PM) it was on whatever channel the game itself came on
Jetsfan115 Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:56 PM) and for the record I don't have any issue with anything rob said. I just disagree with it
Jetsfan115 Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:57 PM) I do think rules are too offense friendly, but I think in this case, when someone blatently breaks a rule ti should be punished
Jetsfan115 Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:57 PM) but then again pacman got away with ripping off a players helmet and didn't get a penatly
Jetsfan115 Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:57 PM) refs need to be more consistent
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 09:04 PM) Hell yeah! Pac 12 AZ State Jaelen Strong. Not a Texans fan but and dont watch a ton of college football but do watch the Pac 12 for football and basketball growing up in Phoenix and also a Suns fan and liking the Cardinals since they moved to AZ .Was a Jets fan though before Az got the cardinals . Strong was really good for AZ State.
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 09:05 PM) Havent studied up on strong for the Texans but will have to since the announcers said he hasnt played much. I want to know if he has been injured or not performing. He has good hands and size
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 09:08 PM) I actually was debating on starting the Colts witth Jets D on bye week glad I dropped them. Wasn't much to choose from. Some decent defenses but bad matchups. took a chance on the Jags this week hoping they can shut down Tampa
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 09:10 PM) Oh and thanks for that 115. people took it wrong. we were simply debating our opinions with passion for our love of football with no animosity and people took it wrong. Easy to misunderstand texts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:21 AM) yeah people don't realize it's ok to disagree on the internet without it being 2 people hating each other lol
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 12:30 PM) I think if the defense touches a live football in the end zone, period, it should be ruled a touchback.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 12:30 PM) Talking about fumbles, not passes, of course.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 12:31 PM) That's the simplest way to combat any confusion about the rule.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 12:32 PM) If you don't like that rule, then don't fumble in the end zone your trying to score in.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 02:21 PM) it's gotta be possession.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 04:03 PM) I know what the rule is. In proposing a rule change. Evidently, the way it is now is too complicated. If a defense touches a live football in the end zone it should be their ball at the 20. Problem solved.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 04:03 PM) I'm*
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:44 PM) what if the defense touches it whole trying tor ecover but doens't get it and the offense jumps on it first?
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:56 PM) You may not agree with it 115 but the way I look at it is if the offense recovered it it would be a touchdown. Its ok for a punter, qb, or rb ,etc. to deliberately take a safety so they dont get a punt blocked for a td or to avoid giving the ball up on the 1-2 yard line giving up a near definite td. An also those safeties by the O sometimes saves the game because giving up 2 instead of 7 keeps the game in reach at times.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 06:03 PM) Thats why I disagree with the rule. The offense gets the breaks of only giving up 2 points on O. but when fumbkling into the endzone and out it is always ruled a touchback even if the defender or O tries to recoiver the ball in the endzone and the ball goes out of bounds. Thats why I think batting the ball out of the endzone should still be a touchback instead of giving the ball back to the O that fumbled the ball into the endzone. Just dont feel that they should get a chance to get the ball back for an almost automatic td when they fumbled into the endzone just because of a batted ball. Its something that could litterally cause the defense that made a great play to lose simply because of a vbatted ball. Yet if they try to recover it it and it goes out its a touchback. I just feel its to game changing and a bad rule to give the O the ball back after they messed up bad because that play was the difference between a win and loss. The O fumbles so giving the O the ball back is like saying your great def play was worthless.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 06:04 PM) Just feel that its a bad rule since it would have almost definitely changed the game winner.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 06:08 PM) Just to many good rules for the O these days and to many bad rules for the D. this isn't college where offense dominates in most games. In the pros I want to see an equal playing field and not how its become so offensive friendly. Our own Jets have lost a lot of games on defensive calls alone after stopping the O. 3rd down and a mile and a penalty cost a 1st down and in many cases the game for us. Basically that's why I'm against the rule. I want an equal playing field in the pros nothing more.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:26 PM) Offense is in control of the ball, they should have that option. Both teams get to play offense it's not unfiar
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:26 PM) a major defensive play is more game changing then a major offensive play too.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:26 PM) turnover ratio is better linked to win/loss then any other stat
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:27 PM) even in your case the offense gives up 2 point and posession back with good field position and ball control
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 06:33 PM) Lets just a agree to disagree on this topic. We both see the situation different and neither of us will budge on this. best we just let it go and see if the NFL starts enforcing the rule more or changes it at some point. Either way. All the coaches and players in the league now know the rule so I doubt it will deliberately happen again any time soon....but then again who knows...in the games there are a lot of stupid fouls out of frustration, taunting, etc.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 06:34 PM) And the fans and officials are now aware of a rule almost no one but the officials knew.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 06:37 PM) Heck Im upset that we arent 4-0 right now with all thr mistakes against the Eagles and still almost coming back. I feel we need every win we can get especially with the Bills looking decent and always having to deal with the pats every year. Be nice to win the division for once. So tired of seeing the Pats win and get a bye almost every year.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 11:12 PM) Why do the Jets DBs have to talk about the Giants WRs!!? Why can't they just worry about our own team.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 11:13 PM) I think all jets fans remember the last time our DBs talked crap about a Giants WR..
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 11:13 PM) The jets should just worry about the Jets!!
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Posted 24 January 2007 - 05:35 PM

The weather in Mobile isn't great. The temperature at Ladd-Peebles Stadium has yet to reach 50 degrees and it's been raining. That makes for some good adverse conditions in which to test the quarterbacks on hand, and so far Heisman Award winner Troy Smith and Michigan State's Drew Stanton have answered the bell.

Most observers were convinced Stanton, who I touched on in our last segment of Draft '07: "Unfinished Business," was inconsistent on Monday but found a groove yesterday. Smith was regarded as the most impressive quarterback in the field the first day, when he also tipped the scales at a respectable 6-0/222. Stanton, Smith, and Houston's Kevin Kolb are vying to be the No. 3-rated signal caller heading to the Combine.

I read in this blog that the NFL Network's Mike Mayock has pinpointed Kolb as a possible fast-riser in the months leading up to April 28. It's tough to gauge how he's fared this week with a limited account of his reps in drop-back drills, but I do know one knock against Kolb is that he played in a passer-friendly spread at Houston and may struggle with an initial learning curve. Also having faced marginal competition could make that transition more difficult. His throwing motion is a wind-up, three-quarters delivery, but the ball seems to come out of his hand just fine. What stands out is Kolb's ability to release from the pocket and make throws on the run, his adequate arm strength, and his tact. Kolb threw just four interceptions to 30 touchdowns as a senior. He also ran for four.

Meanwhile, LSU's JaMarcus Russell, a Mobile native, sent his best regards to Senior Bowl participants via an unlikely source: injured Notre Dame quarterback Brady Quinn. Quinn and Russell, currently the draft's top two hurlers, have been training together at the Athlete's Performance Institute in Tempe, Arizona. Quinn won't practice this week or play in Saturday's game, but that doesn't mean he's not mixing it up in other ways.

Panthers Like Brady?

There is some talk around the Senior Bowl that Panthers representatives showed a special interest in Quinn when he made his surprise appearance on Monday. John Fox and Notre Dame head coach Charlie Weis go way back and Carolina may be looking for 31-year-old Jake Delhomme's successor. Delhomme struggled in 2006, so Quinn could be starting by mid-season if Delhomme falters again, and the Panthers trade up in the first round. Currently holding the No. 14 overall pick, Carolina would likely have to shop a Kris Jenkins or a Chris Gamble to move up the board, possibly dangling Gamble and their pick to Detroit at No. 2. Despite a rough Sugar Bowl, I can't see Quinn falling past Miami at No. 9.

Wideouts Up and Down

We know Virginia Tech's David Clowney can separate, but can he catch the football? Granted his quarterback (redshirt sophomore Sean Glennon) was a disaster in 2006, but Clowney still managed 34 receptions. That hasn't translated to the Senior week practice field, however, as Clowney dropped numerous passes on Day One and didn't stand out yesterday. A projected mid-round selection, Clowney's sprinter speed will keep him draftable, but maybe only in the latter rounds.

The consensus is that Dwayne Bowe of LSU is the top receiver prospect at the Senior Bowl. Mayock called Bowe a certain first-round pick, and he's exceeded expectations. Aside from dropping a handful of catchable passes, Bowe's speed and body build have impressed. The Vikings, Rams, and Steelers could all have interest.

Others who have stepped up their games are sure-handed Auburn wideout Courtney Taylor, a lanky athlete with questionable straight-line speed who could help instantly in the slot, Clemson's Chansi Stuckey, and Chris Davis of Florida State. Davis has electrifying quickness but needs to polish his routes and get stronger. Stuckey is a speedy converted quarterback who could be a steal at the end of the draft's first day.

Shutdown Potential

David Irons of Auburn and Thorpe Award winner Aaron Ross have stood out as cover corners at the Senior Bowl. Irons, the running back Kenny's older brother, has been inconsistent, partially due to the fact that he's extremely aggressive. But he's made plays others at Senior week couldn't hope to make in one-on-one drills. Irons has an injury history dating back to his JUCO days that'll affect him in April but he could solidify a second- or third-round grade with a strong finish before Saturday's game.

Ross, who played at Texas, has shown exceptional footwork and an ability to stay with most wideouts. A first-team All American, Ross could fit as an instant nickel corner for a team like the Cowboys if Aaron Glenn decides to call it quits or Anthony Henry switches to centerfield. It was interesting to see Longhorns first-day safety Michael Griffin, not especially touted for his cover skills, line up in the one-on-one drills and hold his own.

Did You Say Linebacka?

As expected, Ole Miss inside linebacker Patrick Willis has been impressive so far. South coach Mike Nolan, who coached DeMeco Ryans at the Senior Bowl last year, said "(Ryans) didn't make the initial impression that Willis has on me. I'm not saying that Willis is a better player, but I'm just saying that Willis has really jumped out early on." Willis also measured in at 6-1/240, which is at least five pounds heavier than anticipated. One theory has the Giants moving up for Willis and sending Antonio Pierce to the weak side.

First Trade Rumor

The New York media has been pushing Jets and Giants management to make an offseason move for Michael Turner since last October. Apparently it may happen. One report early Tuesday afternoon said the Jets would be willing to part with the No. 25 pick overall in exchange for Turner, who would presumably be the "thunder" to Leon Washington's "lightning." The Jets will certainly continue to keep their eyes on Senior Bowl talent, however, and have already shown reported interest in Penn State's Tony Hunt and Auburn's Kenny Irons. Just about everyone likes Hunt and his improved size, so he may not be around at 25 if the Jets wait to pull the trigger on a Turner trade.

Already on the Mend

In addition to the minor "bursa sac" in Quinn's knee, some other prospects are dealing with injuries. Nimble 5-7 tailback Garrett Wolfe, the nation's leading rusher in 2006, has already dropped out of the Senior Bowl due to a hamstring suffered in practice Monday. A Darren Sproles lookalike from Northern Illinois, Wolfe entered the draft process with a wealth of injury concerns and a late middle-round grade, so if he can't perform at the Combine he might fall out of the draft altogether. First-day defensive end Dan Bazuin of Central Michigan was an absolute terror at the East-West Shrine game, recording 2.5 sacks and garnering Defensive MVP honors, but isn't participating this week due to a knee injury, the extent of which is unknown. Wisconsin left tackle Joe Thomas is skipping out and says it's because he's "not in good enough playing shape." Thomas may think he's already got a top-ten pick in the bag.

Talkative Rutgers tight end Clark Harris isn't putting to bed concerns about his toughness by quitting after the first day of drills due to a toe injury sustained in the Texas Bowl. It won't be a surprise if he falls far on draft weekend. LSU wideout Craig Davis is out with a groin injury. Likely 3-4 outside linebacker and possible first-rounder LaMarr Woodley tweaked a hammy on Monday and re-aggravated it Tuesday, forcing him from drills. His status for the game is uncertain. Washington State wideout Jason Hill, already coming off an injury-plagued season, twisted his ankle on Monday but made it out for Tuesday's session. LSU's LaRon Landry isn't at the Senior Bowl for reasons unknown and Gaines Adams, a rush end from Clemson, was told by his agent to skip the function.

East-West Shrine Game

If you caught this game last week, three players other than Bazuin had to stand out. New Hampshire's David Ball in particular dominated the contest for stretches. Analyst Bob Davie pointed out that Ball, who broke Jerry Rice's career record for touchdowns at the D-IAA level with 58, runs just like Chicago Cub Jeff Samardzija. Originally recruited to run track at New Hampshire, Ball leapt for a 51-yard grab in the game and looks sure to be drafted.

Little-known Lane's Jacoby Jones, a 6-4 specimen who accumulated over 2,000 all-purpose yards in his senior season, looked explosive in the Shrine game after a reported strong week of practice. With teams undoubtedly scouring the college ranks for the next Marques Colston, look for Jones to draw comparisons when he hits the Combine floor in February.

Fresno State wideout Paul Williams, who is also in attendance at the Senior Bowl, delivered at the East-West Shrine, torching Georgia Tech corner Kenny Scott for a 79-yard touchdown thrown by Nevada's Jeff Rowe. To cap his end-zone dash, Williams pointed back at his defender ala Reggie Bush in the NFC Championship. He later apologized for the unsportsmanlike act.

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