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azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:35 PM) Is anyone else as concerned as I am about the secondary?
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:36 PM) I know it's preseason and all but even with Milliner in on the first game we gave up a TD on the first drive to the Colts
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:37 PM) Patterson looked like me out there and Wilson got torched last night
Smedsthejet Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:26 PM) Concerned about the right side of the OLine too - too many penalties and Giacomini wasn't that much better than against the Colts when he was poor
SackExchange71 Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:31 PM) Imo i still think howard is better then giacomini..Wish they never let him walk.Giacomini had alot of flags in seattle also
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:33 AM) Howard recieved a huge contract in Oakland. Way over his actual value.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 10:08 AM) So did we make a trade for a CB yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:51 PM) Milliner did suffer a high ankle sprain, that sucks. could linger all year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:52 PM) I think Patterson sucked vs the Colts because he was injured, which he always is.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:37 PM) Corey Ivy CB
36 Jim Leonhard SS/PR
43 Haruki Nakamura FS
25 Evan Oglesby CB
20 Ed Reed FS
22 Samari Rolle CB
39 Daren Stone FS
41 Frank Walker CB
31 Fabian Washington in 2008
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:39 PM) Reed is a HOF but Rolle was way past his prime
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) SNOOPY BOWL FRIDAY!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
518-JeTS-FaN Icon : (Yesterday, 08:54 AM) disgusted with my local programming, instead of jets and giants they are airing the raiders vs packers..wtf
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:23 AM) Glad I don't live up there anymore haha
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 PM) The JETS are #6 in the Forbes List for most franchise value
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 PM) The Buffalo Jills are #31 and the Miami Dolphags are #16 respectively
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:00 PM) The JETS are worth $1.8 billion
jet-man Icon : (Yesterday, 10:03 PM) that's less than the clippers
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 01:07 PM) I'm very excited with the amount of preseason touchdowns the Jets have
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 03:21 PM) FIRE IDZIK
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#1 User is offline   Jetsfan0099 Icon

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 11:55 AM

This is my wish list, I want....
#1-Asante Samuel
#2-Eric Steinbach(OG/OT)
#3-Michael Turner
#4-Hollis Thomas
Bonus Dwight Freeney if we can get him for OLB!
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:01 PM

Not to burst your bubble but we already had this topic.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:04 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Jan 15 2007, 12:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not to burst your bubble but we already had this topic.

I know, but I couldnt find it and I was bord and just thought about what players I really want....
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:07 PM

Fair enough:

1. Assante Samuel
2. A DT so the Jets could move DRob to DE
3. Briggs
4. [Ideal Situation] - Trade JMac and a 3rd for M. Turner
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:12 PM

NT - Terrdel Sands - 6'7" 335 lbs - The short term answer to our NT problem kills 2 birds with one stone. This guy allows us to move D Rob to DE...and suddenly our line is solid. However, I'm not sure we need a NT. There were some big free agent bodies last year...and we didn't pursue...so maybe Mangini really is OK with Tui and Pouha. Let's hope so...that would be great.

OT - Leonard Davis - Takes over for Clements and makes our run game actually effective.

That's it...than some small time guys Mangini thinks will fit his system. Some may say Asante Samuel...but he may cost too much...so I say no. If we can get him at a fair price...than sure go for it...but with his gaudy numbers...he's sure to go high.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:18 PM

You know what, we have 28 mil. in cap space and plenty of money. Go get Samuel, how much is a real shut down corner worth? Two good corners does so much for a D.
Give me a big fat NT and Samuel and our D would be very improved,
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:21 PM

How are you guys putting Asante at the top of the list? We're actually pretty good at CB. With another year in the system we have some good up and coming DB's.

We need a DT or DE if we don't move DRob. That is our #1 priority. We also need a RB and LB upgrade in the worst way. Every other area we can build through the draft.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:21 PM

QUOTE (mangold107 @ Jan 15 2007, 12:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You know what, we have 28 mil. in cap space and plenty of money. Go get Samule, how much is a real shut down corner worth? Two good corners does so much for a D.
Give me a big fat NT and Samule and our D would be very improved,


Yeah and if you spend it all this year we won't have it next year...

Plus...this is the kind of orgnizatoin that's going to build through the draft...the way it should be done. If we do that we need to sign our own guys long term. Jerricho Cotchery definitely needs to be signed. Victor Hobson could be resigned. Rhodes eventually will need to be resigned.

Build through the draft...keep your own players...that is how you win.

Not by signing a bunch of other teams retreads...ehum...Redskins....eh...
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:24 PM

A need no one has really been talking about from what ive seen is OG. Look at what shawn andrews has done for the eagles he is a beast. Granted if we continue to use leon as our main back having a OT like leonard davis would be huge because of all the offtackle running. But the key to making our run game better is the OG position. Moore is not only not very good but also extremely penalty prone. Kendall id have to say is good but not great and aging. h eis probably also more cerebral than physical. I also think we need to look DL beyond just NT. I dont know if ellis, as much as I love him, is the answer at DE in 3-4...we need some dominators up front.

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:29 PM

QUOTE (VILMAmazing51 @ Jan 15 2007, 12:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A need no one has really been talking about from what ive seen is OG. Look at what shawn andrews has done for the eagles he is a beast. Granted if we continue to use leon as our main back having a OT like leonard davis would be huge because of all the offtackle running. But the key to making our run game better is the OG position. Moore is not only not very good but also extremely penalty prone. Kendall id have to say is good but not great and aging. h eis probably also more cerebral than physical. I also think we need to look DL beyond just NT. I dont know if ellis, as much as I love him, is the answer at DE in 3-4...we need some dominators up front.


I agree about Ellis...he isn't the answer...but for now he's OK. I think we should draft a guy in the middle rounds like Baraka Atkins to groom and take over for Ellis in a year or so.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:30 PM

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:30 PM

QUOTE (SignalZero @ Jan 15 2007, 12:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How are you guys putting Asante at the top of the list? We're actually pretty good at CB. With another year in the system we have some good up and coming DB's.

We need a DT or DE if we don't move DRob. That is our #1 priority. We also need a RB and LB upgrade in the worst way. Every other area we can build through the draft.


I agree with Ronny here. I really like Miller, he's gonna be great especially because his work ethic has improved vastly. And anyway, I dont think the Pats are gonna let Samuels go. He's the reason they let Ty Law go.

Thus, I like the idea of letting Miller start on the other side and really working hard with him this offseason. Everyone said the kid was raw when he came out... he's still learning and when he gets there he's gonna be amazing.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:38 PM

I though Ellis quietly had a great season, like almost all pro. He blew up plays in the backfield and set up alot of sacks. He could of easily had 8-9 sacks this year. Ellis was our best D-linemen this year, with Robertson behind him. We do need a guy to replace him in the future though, since he will be 30 next year. But we need a replacement now for Kimo, I think that Cory Redding would be a good pickup for that. While we draft a DT/DE high in the draft.
I just want one big FA signing, I think they could do that, I would want Samuel, I was watching him yesterday, he played great. He has great coverage skills, he is a up and coming CB, atleast we can try and get him away from the Pats. That would hurt them big time. I want to trade or cut Barrett, so that would save some money for the future, he is good but, he lacks speed and when we blitz if we dont get to the QB, then he can get torched because of it.

QUOTE (VILMAmazing51 @ Jan 15 2007, 12:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A need no one has really been talking about from what ive seen is OG. Look at what shawn andrews has done for the eagles he is a beast. Granted if we continue to use leon as our main back having a OT like leonard davis would be huge because of all the offtackle running. But the key to making our run game better is the OG position. Moore is not only not very good but also extremely penalty prone. Kendall id have to say is good but not great and aging. h eis probably also more cerebral than physical. I also think we need to look DL beyond just NT. I dont know if ellis, as much as I love him, is the answer at DE in 3-4...we need some dominators up front.

Thats why I said to sign Eric Steinbach, he is a OG, and a really good one too, he can play OT also. He is verstile, doubt we would go after him.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:42 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 15 2007, 06:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just want one big FA signing, I think they could do that, I would want Samuel, I was watching him yesterday, he played great. He has great coverage skills, he is a up and coming CB, atleast we can try and get him away from the Pats. That would hurt them big time. I want to trade or cut Barrett, so that would save some money for the future, he is good but, he lacks speed and when we blitz if we dont get to the QB, then he can get torched because of it.
Thats why I said to sign Eric Steinbach, he is a OG, and a really good one too, he can play OT also. He is verstile, doubt we would go after him.


I agree on both parts and feel that Eric Steinbach would be a great pickup as Kendall is very much on the wrong side of 30 and Brandon Moore had an on and off season for the most part. However the one knock with Steinbach is that in New York he'd be surrounded by a lot of water and may fancy taking another drunken boat trip, like he did earlier in the season, and earn himself another DUI. crazy.gif

Samuel would be by main target as a FA but I wouldn't call him an up and coming CB. Remember he had 10 INTs this year, level with Champ Bailey, so IMO he is already one of the elite NFL CBs.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:43 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Jan 15 2007, 01:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I agree with Ronny here. I really like Miller, he's gonna be great especially because his work ethic has improved vastly. And anyway, I dont think the Pats are gonna let Samuels go. He's the reason they let Ty Law go.

Thus, I like the idea of letting Miller start on the other side and really working hard with him this offseason. Everyone said the kid was raw when he came out... he's still learning and when he gets there he's gonna be amazing.

I really dont know about Miller, I mean he improved his play alot during the season at CB. At first he stunk, but later in the year he did good, he is a very good tackler, and a big time hitter. Plus he doesnt get beat deep, he has great speed. He still should of had that int against the Pats. But still if we try and wait for these guys, then we wont be good again next year, Idk if we can trust Miller for next season. I really wish we started Miller all season. Barrett isnt good for us, he is too slow and is prone to the deep throw on the blitz. Samuel is a guy that knows the system and is a great up and coming player. I would love for us to take him away from the Pats. I had my eye on Samuel for like 3 years now.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:45 PM

QUOTE (mangold107 @ Jan 15 2007, 12:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You know what, we have 28 mil. in cap space and plenty of money. Go get Samuel, how much is a real shut down corner worth? Two good corners does so much for a D.
Give me a big fat NT and Samuel and our D would be very improved,


That's the biggest misconception what you just said. Remember that we will probably resign,Cotchery,Hobson and Mangini. There won't be as much money as you think there will be. Just remember to factor in that point when you talk about F.A's
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:49 PM

QUOTE (Smedsthejet @ Jan 15 2007, 01:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I agree on both parts and feel that Eric Steinbach would be a great pickup as Kendall is very much on the wrong side of 30 and Brandon Moore had an on and off season for the most part. However the one knock with Steinbach is that in New York he'd be surrounded by a lot of water and may fancy taking another drunken boat trip, like he did earlier in the season, and earn himself another DUI. crazy.gif

Samuel would be by main target as a FA but I wouldn't call him an up and coming CB. Remember he had 10 INTs this year, level with Champ Bailey, so IMO he is already one of the elite NFL CBs.

He is kinda a up and coming player for the fact that he keeps on improving. He didnt make the probowl so he is still on the rise, untill he becomes a CB that makes it every year and is well known, but his 10 picks does attract attention. I think that, that may be the reason we dont get him because of his 10 picks, and he is going to want some kind of contract. Especially since he had another int against us in the playoffs for a TD, and is playing amazing in the playoffs. Would absolutly love to sign this guy though.

QUOTE (S-Dubb @ Jan 15 2007, 01:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's the biggest misconception what you just said. Remember that we will probably resign,Cotchery,Hobson and Mangini. There won't be as much money as you think there will be. Just remember to factor in that point when you talk about F.A's

Coaches take up cap money?????
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:54 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 15 2007, 06:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Coaches take up cap money?????


I don't think they do but they take up money from the organisation, which includes cap money. The lower revenue teams find it hard to use all their cap money because of this.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 01:37 PM

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 09:21 PM

1. dwight freeney or draft lamar woodley
2. Get a NT
3. draft someone on the OL. RT or Guard
4. get someone to play corner ( samuels, nick harpers, clements)


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