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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 26 January 2007 - 11:06 AM

From mortensen's blog at espn.com

Jets coach Eric Mangini got an excused absence from attending the Senior Bowl. "He needed to get away," said Jets GM Mike Tannenbaum. "He burned it pretty hard going back to the day he was hired."



I realize how hard he worked all year, but does this affect the scouting at all in your opinions? Im just curious because Tanny is great, but if mangini was there to see a guy like Carriker or Okoye or Bowe who is blowing shit up right now it might influence what we do come draft day. I mean film is one thing, but from what Kiper says Carriker is the first player you notice during the workouts dominating...Mangini being the 3/4 guy might say "we need this guy" if he saw him in person.....thoughts??

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Posted 26 January 2007 - 11:22 AM

I would like him to be there but he must have needed the break if he is not.
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Posted 26 January 2007 - 11:26 AM

No, I dont think it does. I think it's more important for him to get some rest than it is for him to be there. We have reps there. That's what the scouting team is for. Mangini will watch film on these guys.
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Posted 26 January 2007 - 11:31 AM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Jan 26 2007, 12:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No, I dont think it does. I think it's more important for him to get some rest than it is for him to be there. We have reps there. That's what the scouting team is for. Mangini will watch film on these guys.



Agreed. If he's fried he'll never make the right decisions.
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Posted 26 January 2007 - 11:46 AM

QUOTE (bluelinecop @ Jan 26 2007, 12:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Agreed. If he's fried he'll never make the right decisions.


Exactly. He'd be less able to give the attention to details and he'd overlook certain things which isn't what we want. Not only that, but I'm pretty sure that's why they hire a scouting team.
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Posted 26 January 2007 - 11:48 AM

QUOTE (bluelinecop @ Jan 26 2007, 12:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Agreed. If he's fried he'll never make the right decisions.

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Posted 26 January 2007 - 11:52 AM

iagree.gif with all those who agree its better for Mangini to get rest. everyone put great points and i just wanna reitterate that the scouts are gunna be there to do their jobs and he can watch film latter in good health instead of being tired, burnt, out and not wanting to look at people or film this week. Let the guy rest up he deserves it. Everyone else is paid to scout um so let them do their job.

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Posted 26 January 2007 - 11:52 AM

Not syaing I dont agree....I just think he is the one who knows the 3/4 the best and it would be nice if he were there. Plus, either way, i thought it might give us something new to talk about for a few minutes besides whether we hate or love pennington and whether we should give up a 1st for turner.

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Posted 26 January 2007 - 11:57 AM

QUOTE (VILMAmazing51 @ Jan 26 2007, 12:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not syaing I dont agree....I just think he is the one who knows the 3/4 the best and it would be nice if he were there. Plus, either way, i thought it might give us something new to talk about for a few minutes besides whether we hate or love pennington and whether we should give up a 1st for turner.


No kidding. Although I like to debate the QB issue. The only thing that isn't even an issue is that Turner is not worth a 1st round pick. Some team is gonna be stupid enough to trade for him and I'm just hoping that's not the Jets.

At the end of the day, I dont think they are gonna be scouting the RB's too hard out there. I think they're interested in Bush. Production is what it is and the kid was really productive. I think the player they're really interested in is Adam Carriker. Probably looking at those tweeners too.
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Posted 26 January 2007 - 12:10 PM

QUOTE (VILMAmazing51 @ Jan 26 2007, 05:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not syaing I dont agree....I just think he is the one who knows the 3/4 the best and it would be nice if he were there. Plus, either way, i thought it might give us something new to talk about for a few minutes besides whether we hate or love pennington and whether we should give up a 1st for turner.


The scouts there will know what Mangini and Tannenbaum are looking for for players to play in the 3-4 as they will have been heavily briefed. Tannenbaum and Mangini are on the same wavelength too so it won't really be a disadvantage to us with Mangini kicking his feet up and enjoying time with his family.
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Posted 26 January 2007 - 12:14 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Jan 26 2007, 01:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No kidding. Although I like to debate the QB issue. The only thing that isn't even an issue is that Turner is not worth a 1st round pick. Some team is gonna be stupid enough to trade for him and I'm just hoping that's not the Jets.

At the end of the day, I dont think they are gonna be scouting the RB's too hard out there. I think they're interested in Bush. Production is what it is and the kid was really productive. I think the player they're really interested in is Adam Carriker. Probably looking at those tweeners too.


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Posted 26 January 2007 - 12:20 PM

He told his guys what he wants, and they know what to look for, and plus Mr.T is there, and he knows the core values and everything. They will tell him everything he needs to know. The Superbowl teams HCs arent there. They have their reps there too.
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Posted 26 January 2007 - 12:22 PM

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He told his guys what he wants, and they know what to look for, and plus Mr.T is there, and he knows the core values and everything. They will tell him everything he needs to know. The Superbowl teams HCs arent there. They have their reps there too.


At first I thought you were actually talking about Mr. T, who is a big Jets fan. I was thinking to myself, how in the world does that help the Jets? crazy.gif
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Posted 26 January 2007 - 12:51 PM

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At first I thought you were actually talking about Mr. T, who is a big Jets fan. I was thinking to myself, how in the world does that help the Jets? crazy.gif

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Posted 26 January 2007 - 01:24 PM

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At first I thought you were actually talking about Mr. T, who is a big Jets fan. I was thinking to myself, how in the world does that help the Jets? crazy.gif

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Posted 26 January 2007 - 03:24 PM

well its good if tannys there i guess i hope mangini watches the bowl and practices on tv tho

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Posted 26 January 2007 - 05:12 PM

Thats why you have scouts. These guys get paid handsomely to make the right evaluations. I'm sure Mangini will watch film on the guys they have their eyes on. He's human not a robot. He has burned the candle at both ends all year. He has a family and kids. He needs this!

This is what teams pay scouts for. Tannenbaum is there as well it's no big deal.

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Posted 26 January 2007 - 06:19 PM

magini deserves a break he worked his ass of this season
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Posted 26 January 2007 - 06:34 PM

i'm not worried about it. he must trust the scouts that were sent to brief him later.
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Posted 26 January 2007 - 07:07 PM

QUOTE (kobeskool @ Jan 26 2007, 06:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
magini deserves a break he worked his ass of this season


Well said, you give this guy whatever he WANTS. His family needs to be a priority as well. Not happy at home, not happy at work, Not happy at work=Bad results.
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