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JETS LACK OF REDZONE OFFENSE STILL CURSING THE DEFENSE
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:40 PM) Catch the f***ing ball nelson
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:40 PM) it all comes down to this
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:40 PM) David ha ha Nelson is a bum
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:40 PM) why didn't they talk about Kyle Fuler when torched for 51 yards by Salas?
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:41 PM) Bullshit
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:41 PM) f***
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:41 PM) How the f*** is that not interference
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:41 PM) That's flag 101 never looking back and pushing the WR
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 10:41 PM) How is that not PI?
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:41 PM) Never looked for the ball for a second
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:42 PM) Fuck this game fuck the refs fuck this team fuck the season. I'm over this shit
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:42 PM) That's bullshit
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:43 PM) On the bright side we get to play Detroit, San Diego, NE and denver in our next 4 games
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:44 PM) Oh look the refs gave the Jets another timeout. A timeout the Jets didn't even have. SMDH
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:45 PM) Until we get rid of geno smith we are going nowhere. Bottom line. Dude is more erratic than romo
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:45 PM) I'm really not feeling Geno Smith.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:45 PM) Or any other QB in the league. Trade for Sanchez Now!
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:45 PM) We'd be 3-0 with Sanchez
SokeSleezy Icon : (Yesterday, 10:46 PM) Geno's needs to work on his accuracy,Stafford gonna kill us next week smh
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:46 PM) Yeah gonna go with a good old f*** Geno this week. He is still playing better than last year though
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:46 PM) People saying Sanchez sucks keep in mind he never had a chance to play in morningwegs system. He was held back by shottenheimer
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:47 PM) This team will never have a franchise QB. We can't draft them and when we sign or trade for them, they're past their primes.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) well
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) Because we destoy any promise in our young QBs with our elite offensive support talent.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) TIME TO CHANGE THE DIAPER
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) another game next week
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) 3-0 with Sanchez? Oh god...we've gone there already?
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:49 PM) jets need more talent on O
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:49 PM) and some god damn DBs
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:49 PM) Morninweg's system is get the offense going then throw a monkey wrench into things by putting the backup QB in there and f***ing up the offense's rhythm.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:50 PM) Yes I went there. Geno spots these teams 7-10 points weekly and has turned the ball in the redzone 3 games in a row. If not for 2 dropped ints geno would have 4 picks. Dude sucks at best
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:51 PM) Then we got Chris ivory running like marshawn lynch out there and they sit him on the bench the whole fourth quarter
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:52 PM) I'd like to use the same excuse I used for Sanchez. QB can't really do shit when your best WR would be a #3 if he was lucky on any other team
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:52 PM) yeah but sanchez was shell shcoked
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:52 PM) jets werent fixing him
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:53 PM) Geno will be to after another year or two of this shit.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:53 PM) What's kerleys contract like
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:53 PM) because if he's underpaid I don't see him sticking around
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:54 PM) he only looks good because our O is so bad.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:54 PM) I bet a lot of teams have their eye on him
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:56 PM) Decker doesn't need to play until he is completely healthy
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:58 PM) FIRE IDZIK
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 11:08 PM) How big was the Sheldon Richardson fumble recovery not being a TD. We quickly went three and out after that
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:43 PM) Idzik better not be stingy this offseason and address the biggest issues we have WR and Secondary
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 11:47 PM) King mo says he's ok, injury is minor
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Defensive Line Analysis

#21 User is offline   ellisjersey92 Icon

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 08:37 PM

QUOTE (ellisjersey92 @ Jan 15 2007, 08:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i haven't heard of the last two guys but i like their size. bringing in guys that are robertson's size doesn't really make any sense

yes but i still don't over look size. as we saw towards the end of the season with robertson, technique can be taught and it will help greatly but it only goes so far. once the technique is down, the only thing thats going to stop a center and guard from moving the nose is 330 pounds of bulk and power. i dont know this guys build but if he can and is willing to put on the weight then LETS DO IT!!!! NT is our most pressing need this offseason.

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 09:42 PM

Whats Tui's measurables?
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 10:07 PM

QUOTE (ellisjersey92 @ Jan 15 2007, 06:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
when robertson was drafted he was billed as the next warren sapp. now he never lived up to that when we were running the 4-3 but now that hes a nose in the 3-4 he has no shot at pass rushing. his size and skill set really play towards a 3-4 end and im really excited to see what he can do there. if we found a big body in the middle and with ellis and robertson at end, i believe we'd have one of the better defensive lines in the league and that will greatly help our linebackers



he was excelling and was considered a top under tackle which is what warren sapp is, the year they played the chargers in the playoffs.......the next season teams collapsed on him because we lost fergeson and played a bunch of guys who dont belong in the league, he was also injured......but your right he would be a fine DE in 3-4 sort of like how seymour was moved from DT to DE in 3-4 and has had great success
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 10:12 PM

QUOTE (S-Dubb @ Jan 15 2007, 10:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Whats Tui's measurables?


He's 350 pounds...but doesn't seem to be on the team anymore...or in football for that matter...
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 10:26 PM

Yeah we definitely need some fat boys to solidfy the run defense. We need a big,fat,sloppy Pat Williams type of NT. We also need a threat at OLB that the defense will have to account for every play. (I.E. Shawne Merriman?) If we gonna run the 3-4 then we need fat boys up front to keep blockers off Vilma. Our OLB's are serviceable but not protoype 3-4 LB's. As far as the secondary...I think they are just fine. A blistering pass rush out of the 3-4 will make any secondary look good.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 11:19 PM

"As is the case with Moses and Adams at defensive end, there is little doubt that Marcus Thomas (Florida) and Quinn Pitkock (Ohio State) are the premier senior defensive tackle prospects so far. Ironically, Thomas and Pitkock share very few similarities in terms of style of play. Thomas is a disruptive force with 18 tackles-for-loss the past two seasons, while Pitkock is valued more for his ability to occupy blockers and free up linebackers to make the big play. Pitkock is more consistent at this point but Thomas has greater upside."


6'3" 295 and a artical on espn says hes crazy
now this is on my wish list, looks like a 2nd or 3rd round guy.
btw that is not how you spell his name, it is with a C but you can not write that on here.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 11:34 PM

QUOTE (CaptainJet @ Jan 15 2007, 11:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah we definitely need some fat boys to solidfy the run defense. We need a big,fat,sloppy Pat Williams type of NT. We also need a threat at OLB that the defense will have to account for every play. (I.E. Shawne Merriman?) If we gonna run the 3-4 then we need fat boys up front to keep blockers off Vilma. Our OLB's are serviceable but not protoype 3-4 LB's. As far as the secondary...I think they are just fine. A blistering pass rush out of the 3-4 will make any secondary look good.


Remember this was B.Thomas first real year and at a new position. He'll be a beast next season. Coming off a 8 sack year this year. Keep Hobson but don't resign and get another OLB from someplace
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 10:48 AM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 16 2007, 03:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He's 350 pounds...but doesn't seem to be on the team anymore...or in football for that matter...


Didn't he get put on IR?
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 02:14 PM

QUOTE (Smedsthejet @ Jan 16 2007, 11:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Didn't he get put on IR?

Yea he did, he is just not listed with the team because he was on a practice squad type of deal, he is on our team though in some way or another, you will see his name pop up when mini camp starts.

QUOTE (S-Dubb @ Jan 16 2007, 12:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Remember this was B.Thomas first real year and at a new position. He'll be a beast next season. Coming off a 8 sack year this year. Keep Hobson but don't resign and get another OLB from someplace

Yea Bryan Thomas became one of the better 3-4 OLBs in the league. He is basically shut down on his side, he hits people in the backfield and blows plays up. He will only get better with experience. I dont think getting 10+ sacks this year is out of the question for Thomas.

QUOTE (mangold107 @ Jan 15 2007, 11:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
"As is the case with Moses and Adams at defensive end, there is little doubt that Marcus Thomas (Florida) and Quinn Pitkock (Ohio State) are the premier senior defensive tackle prospects so far. Ironically, Thomas and Pitkock share very few similarities in terms of style of play. Thomas is a disruptive force with 18 tackles-for-loss the past two seasons, while Pitkock is valued more for his ability to occupy blockers and free up linebackers to make the big play. Pitkock is more consistent at this point but Thomas has greater upside."
6'3" 295 and a artical on espn says hes crazy
now this is on my wish list, looks like a 2nd or 3rd round guy.
btw that is not how you spell his name, it is with a C but you can not write that on here.

Yea Pitkock would be good for us, I see him as a DE for the 3-4, he would fit nicely. It depends though, I really cant wait to see what FAs we pick up, this year is way less predictable on what player we will get with our 1st because we really dont have 1 major need. Pitkock is a 1st rounder though, atleast from where it stands right now, I would like to get Okoye if hes there, he is a really nice NT prospect who has tons of potiential and room to grow. Only 19 years old right now, was a 16 year old freshman. crazy.gif Thats insane!!!
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 04:16 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 16 2007, 02:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yea he did, he is just not listed with the team because he was on a practice squad type of deal, he is on our team though in some way or another, you will see his name pop up when mini camp starts.


I don't know man...Tui might be on the team in any fashion anymore. Like I said...you can't find him on any roster list on newyorkjets.com. Whether it be the IR list...the Practice Squad List...anything.

And he isn't listed on NFL.com...
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 07:09 PM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 16 2007, 04:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't know man...Tui might be on the team in any fashion anymore. Like I said...you can't find him on any roster list on newyorkjets.com. Whether it be the IR list...the Practice Squad List...anything.

And he isn't listed on NFL.com...


Well I decide to look up some research on what happened to Tui and according to baamf of theganggreen.com remebers reading (according to) Jets Confidential, that the team came to an injury settlement with Tui Alailefaleula and then released him.

The post was in November..

http://forums.thegan...t=Alailefaleula
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 07:45 PM

QUOTE (smallguy @ Jan 16 2007, 07:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well I decide to look up some research on what happened to Tui and according to baamf of theganggreen.com remebers reading (according to) Jets Confidential, that the team came to an injury settlement with Tui Alailefaleula and then released him.

The post was in November..

http://forums.thegan...t=Alailefaleula


Nice work...thanks for clearing that up...I'm a little too lazy for that. Haha...but I guess we can stop hoping Tui comes back. It sucks...because there really aren't any real good NT prospects in the draft or any guy's coming out in free agency. I suppose it's up to D Rob and Pouha now...
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