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MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (23 September 2016 - 03:55 PM) updated roster. FB howsare released, TE bowman added to roster
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 10:09 AM) BREAKING NEWS: Santana is a jinx during JETS games
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#21 User is offline   ellisjersey92 Icon

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 08:37 PM

QUOTE (ellisjersey92 @ Jan 15 2007, 08:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i haven't heard of the last two guys but i like their size. bringing in guys that are robertson's size doesn't really make any sense

yes but i still don't over look size. as we saw towards the end of the season with robertson, technique can be taught and it will help greatly but it only goes so far. once the technique is down, the only thing thats going to stop a center and guard from moving the nose is 330 pounds of bulk and power. i dont know this guys build but if he can and is willing to put on the weight then LETS DO IT!!!! NT is our most pressing need this offseason.

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 09:42 PM

Whats Tui's measurables?
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 10:07 PM

QUOTE (ellisjersey92 @ Jan 15 2007, 06:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
when robertson was drafted he was billed as the next warren sapp. now he never lived up to that when we were running the 4-3 but now that hes a nose in the 3-4 he has no shot at pass rushing. his size and skill set really play towards a 3-4 end and im really excited to see what he can do there. if we found a big body in the middle and with ellis and robertson at end, i believe we'd have one of the better defensive lines in the league and that will greatly help our linebackers



he was excelling and was considered a top under tackle which is what warren sapp is, the year they played the chargers in the playoffs.......the next season teams collapsed on him because we lost fergeson and played a bunch of guys who dont belong in the league, he was also injured......but your right he would be a fine DE in 3-4 sort of like how seymour was moved from DT to DE in 3-4 and has had great success
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 10:12 PM

QUOTE (S-Dubb @ Jan 15 2007, 10:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Whats Tui's measurables?


He's 350 pounds...but doesn't seem to be on the team anymore...or in football for that matter...
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 10:26 PM

Yeah we definitely need some fat boys to solidfy the run defense. We need a big,fat,sloppy Pat Williams type of NT. We also need a threat at OLB that the defense will have to account for every play. (I.E. Shawne Merriman?) If we gonna run the 3-4 then we need fat boys up front to keep blockers off Vilma. Our OLB's are serviceable but not protoype 3-4 LB's. As far as the secondary...I think they are just fine. A blistering pass rush out of the 3-4 will make any secondary look good.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 11:19 PM

"As is the case with Moses and Adams at defensive end, there is little doubt that Marcus Thomas (Florida) and Quinn Pitkock (Ohio State) are the premier senior defensive tackle prospects so far. Ironically, Thomas and Pitkock share very few similarities in terms of style of play. Thomas is a disruptive force with 18 tackles-for-loss the past two seasons, while Pitkock is valued more for his ability to occupy blockers and free up linebackers to make the big play. Pitkock is more consistent at this point but Thomas has greater upside."


6'3" 295 and a artical on espn says hes crazy
now this is on my wish list, looks like a 2nd or 3rd round guy.
btw that is not how you spell his name, it is with a C but you can not write that on here.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 11:34 PM

QUOTE (CaptainJet @ Jan 15 2007, 11:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah we definitely need some fat boys to solidfy the run defense. We need a big,fat,sloppy Pat Williams type of NT. We also need a threat at OLB that the defense will have to account for every play. (I.E. Shawne Merriman?) If we gonna run the 3-4 then we need fat boys up front to keep blockers off Vilma. Our OLB's are serviceable but not protoype 3-4 LB's. As far as the secondary...I think they are just fine. A blistering pass rush out of the 3-4 will make any secondary look good.


Remember this was B.Thomas first real year and at a new position. He'll be a beast next season. Coming off a 8 sack year this year. Keep Hobson but don't resign and get another OLB from someplace
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 10:48 AM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 16 2007, 03:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He's 350 pounds...but doesn't seem to be on the team anymore...or in football for that matter...


Didn't he get put on IR?
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 02:14 PM

QUOTE (Smedsthejet @ Jan 16 2007, 11:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Didn't he get put on IR?

Yea he did, he is just not listed with the team because he was on a practice squad type of deal, he is on our team though in some way or another, you will see his name pop up when mini camp starts.

QUOTE (S-Dubb @ Jan 16 2007, 12:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Remember this was B.Thomas first real year and at a new position. He'll be a beast next season. Coming off a 8 sack year this year. Keep Hobson but don't resign and get another OLB from someplace

Yea Bryan Thomas became one of the better 3-4 OLBs in the league. He is basically shut down on his side, he hits people in the backfield and blows plays up. He will only get better with experience. I dont think getting 10+ sacks this year is out of the question for Thomas.

QUOTE (mangold107 @ Jan 15 2007, 11:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
"As is the case with Moses and Adams at defensive end, there is little doubt that Marcus Thomas (Florida) and Quinn Pitkock (Ohio State) are the premier senior defensive tackle prospects so far. Ironically, Thomas and Pitkock share very few similarities in terms of style of play. Thomas is a disruptive force with 18 tackles-for-loss the past two seasons, while Pitkock is valued more for his ability to occupy blockers and free up linebackers to make the big play. Pitkock is more consistent at this point but Thomas has greater upside."
6'3" 295 and a artical on espn says hes crazy
now this is on my wish list, looks like a 2nd or 3rd round guy.
btw that is not how you spell his name, it is with a C but you can not write that on here.

Yea Pitkock would be good for us, I see him as a DE for the 3-4, he would fit nicely. It depends though, I really cant wait to see what FAs we pick up, this year is way less predictable on what player we will get with our 1st because we really dont have 1 major need. Pitkock is a 1st rounder though, atleast from where it stands right now, I would like to get Okoye if hes there, he is a really nice NT prospect who has tons of potiential and room to grow. Only 19 years old right now, was a 16 year old freshman. crazy.gif Thats insane!!!
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 04:16 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 16 2007, 02:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yea he did, he is just not listed with the team because he was on a practice squad type of deal, he is on our team though in some way or another, you will see his name pop up when mini camp starts.


I don't know man...Tui might be on the team in any fashion anymore. Like I said...you can't find him on any roster list on newyorkjets.com. Whether it be the IR list...the Practice Squad List...anything.

And he isn't listed on NFL.com...
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 07:09 PM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 16 2007, 04:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't know man...Tui might be on the team in any fashion anymore. Like I said...you can't find him on any roster list on newyorkjets.com. Whether it be the IR list...the Practice Squad List...anything.

And he isn't listed on NFL.com...


Well I decide to look up some research on what happened to Tui and according to baamf of theganggreen.com remebers reading (according to) Jets Confidential, that the team came to an injury settlement with Tui Alailefaleula and then released him.

The post was in November..

http://forums.thegan...t=Alailefaleula
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 07:45 PM

QUOTE (smallguy @ Jan 16 2007, 07:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well I decide to look up some research on what happened to Tui and according to baamf of theganggreen.com remebers reading (according to) Jets Confidential, that the team came to an injury settlement with Tui Alailefaleula and then released him.

The post was in November..

http://forums.thegan...t=Alailefaleula


Nice work...thanks for clearing that up...I'm a little too lazy for that. Haha...but I guess we can stop hoping Tui comes back. It sucks...because there really aren't any real good NT prospects in the draft or any guy's coming out in free agency. I suppose it's up to D Rob and Pouha now...
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