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azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:10 PM) Ryan is not a Bozo he is a cartoon character.
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 01:15 PM) anyone know anything about CB Kareem Jackson?
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 01:15 PM) FA from Houston. Obvious Mac connection.
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 02:33 PM) NO TO MEVIS NO TO MEVIS
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:26 PM) FIRE MACCAGNAN
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:26 PM) FIRE BOWLES
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:26 PM) CONSTANT TURNOVER
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 03:43 PM) I think we need to fire more people. Like Justin Beiber
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:22 PM) Kareem Jackson is a decent player, I would rather go elsewhere for CB though> He has been a streaky player, some bad seasons some good
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:23 PM) THE KNICKS
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 06:43 PM) @AdamSchefter: Filed to ESPN: Bills have notified LB Kiko Alonso he is going to be traded to Philadelphia for RB LeSean McCoy. Trade official next week.
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 06:43 PM) WOW. Rex is gearing up for ground and pound.
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 06:44 PM) Jets can sign Spiller now but they're going to need a new LB. Rex is gunning for David Harris.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:44 PM) Jets should trade Harris to Minnesota for Minnesota for AP
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:44 PM) Throw in Ivory/Powell or a pick
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:45 PM) Damn they got Shady
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:45 PM) Do NOT give up Ivory
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:45 PM) Powell ok Ivory HELL NO
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:50 PM) Well that definitely opens the door for CJ Spiller to the JETS now that the Jills got Shady
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:12 AM) Spiller is a joke. 99 % of the time he gets tackled for a loss or a 1 or 2 yard gain maximum. He breaks a run here and there. he had one good year in his whole career. their is a reason he is a backup and not the starter. I suggest you guys that believe Spiller has anything to offer go through the play by play game logs. I did and he is horrendous.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:14 AM) Spiller cannot break a tackle period. I broke down last years game logs of his runs in a thread last year. He isn't even a pass catching rb. Fred Jackson catches most of the running back passes.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:20 AM) Unless Spiller comes tremendously cheap no thank you. Wouldn't pay more than a one year deal worth 1 million at most. All he has is speed. Not even on Sproles level. His stats are inflated. For instance he has 10 runs in a game and 9 of them are losses are or 1-2 yard runs. Then he breaks one on the outside for 40-70 yards. Not reliable at all. Even when he break one he is guaranteed a td
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:21 AM) Even in his 1200 yard rushing year he only had 6 tds rushing and 2 receiving
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:23 AM) Spiller is only valuable as a special teams player. Period By year 2010 ) tds rshng 1 rcvng 283 yards rshng
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:31 AM) meant 0 tds rushing in 2010, 2011 4 tds 561 yards rushing 2tds receiving, 2012 6tds 1244 rushing 2 tds receiving, 2013 2tds 933 yards rushing 0tds receiving, 2014 0tds 300 yards rushing 1td receiving.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:41 AM) His stats look decent on paper but if you actually go through the game logs of his career like I did his stats are extremely inflated. For instance one game last year he had 10 attempts for 8 yards another 4 attempts for -4 yards, another 6 attempts for 19 yards, another 10 attempts for 25 yards.Another game he had 12 games for 69 yards but 47 of it was on one play. Point is he sucks as a running back. Who wants a rb that gets stopped 99% of the time and breaks one play fir a long run. We need reliable backs not a slim chance of him breaking one
santana Icon : (Today, 08:06 AM) "NFL released its first 2015 League Year cap report to teams. Teams w/most room: 1) Jaguars $64.058M; 2) Jets $52.901; 3) Raiders $52.598M."
santana Icon : (Today, 08:06 AM) #2 baby
santana Icon : (Today, 08:07 AM) WE DID IT!
santana Icon : (Today, 08:07 AM) thnx idzik
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 08:09 AM) RE-HIRE IDZIK
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 08:10 AM) Well in all fairness, when I think about the Jets I do think about number two
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 08:30 AM) FIRE MACCAGNAN
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 08:30 AM) The Jaguars hired John Idzik for his expertise in contract negotiating
Chaos Icon : (Today, 08:36 AM) ppl are going to get paid this offseason.
Chaos Icon : (Today, 08:36 AM) so many teams have space
Chaos Icon : (Today, 08:39 AM) eagles have 48M in cap space. Chip is going to go HAM this offseason.
Chaos Icon : (Today, 12:35 PM) @RapSheet: The #Bills have traded for Matt Cassel, the team announced.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 12:43 PM) rex is gearing up his team
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 12:43 PM) a QB that won't turn it over. 2 stud Rbs for ground and pound and will now start building his defense
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 01:49 PM) McCoys agent said the trade is not final and he hinted that he may not be willing to play there.
Chaos Icon : (Today, 04:41 PM) @KristianRDyer: Source: If Marcus Mariota is at No. 6, Eagles will make trade with #Jets http://www.metro.us/...-mCQODxZ1xjBVA/ … via @metronewyork #NYJets
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 05:18 PM) Jets bringing in Kendall Langford and CHris Canty for visits
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 05:20 PM) Cassel blows
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 08:07 PM) I wouldn't mind trading down personally
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 07:53 PM

Last week, I wrote about some sinking ships across the NFL landscape. These are players, primarily under contract for 2007, who could suffer a loss in fantasy value this off-season. Some players are at risk of being released, and others could lose playing time.

Thanks to everyone who sent in suggestions for players to write about this week. I took your advice on many below, but will save most of the free agents for our comprehensive free agent preview. Also much thanks to everyone who has been checking out the blog at NBC and making it hit on two continents.

Willis McGahee, Bills

McGahee has the salary demands of an elite player, and the numbers of a replacement level running back. His recent comments in Penthouse Magazine that the NFL should move the Bills from Buffalo to Toronto might be the last straw in a proud city.

I believe Marv Levy will let some other team pay McGahee's child support. Both New York teams, Denver, Houston, and Atlanta could be a fit. McGahee might be worth a second-round draft pick, but his contract demands could make a trade difficult. Even Clinton Portis wasn't worth the contract Washington gave him after two seasons and McGahee is not nearly as good a runner. I would guess McGahee has a 50/50 shot to return to Buffalo.

Clinton Portis, Redskins

It's amazing that Frank Gore is now the most valuable University of Miami running back. There have been rumblings that Portis could be available in a trade, but the cap hit to Washington would be significant because of his huge contract and signing bonus from 2005. Washington has enough cap problems without paying starter money to get rid of one of their best players.

Portis makes a lot of sense in Houston or back in Denver, but Washington may as well keep Portis if he's going to be on the books. His play on Sundays isn't the problem. Ladell Betts could steal more carries than usual, but I think Portis is set up for a big season. He'll be well rested.

Julius Jones, Cowboys

Julius was in the Bears locker room with his brother Thomas following the Chicago NFC Championship title. Will that be the closest Julius comes to being a starter in the Super Bowl?

With Bill Parcells out of Dallas, Jones has lost his primary supporter. He was already mentioned as a possible trade candidate this off-season even before Parcells left. Thomas didn't fulfill his potential until he left his original team, so perhaps a move could help.

While the Cowboys may see what Jones is worth on the trade market, they would best be served by bringing back Jones and Marion Barber and letting them battle for carries. Jones is explosive, but doesn't have great vision. Barber is a complete back, but has never carried a full load of carries, dating back to college. Fantasy owners don't want to hear it, but two backs are better than one.

Ricky Williams, Dolphins

Nick Saban saw something special in Ricky Williams as a player and as a person. Saban told the Miami media after he left he thought Ricky was worth a few wins on his own.

It's uncertain if Cam Cameron will feel the same, but it's worth that noting that Dolphins GM Randy Mueller traded Ricky once when he ran the Saints. He also wrote about Ricky's eccentricities at length working for ESPN.com. If Mueller stays on as GM, Ricky should go.

Ricky could be worth a fourth-round draft pick and the Dolphins would happily move on with Ronnie Brown. Denver, Houston, Atlanta, and Oakland are all logical fits. His fantasy value would be substantial in any of those locations.

Joe Horn, Saints

It's been a great ride. If Horn is cut this off-season, he'll leave as the best receiver in Saints franchise history. Horn is due $4.45 million next season and the team will ask him to take a paycut to stay. He is still a useful weapon in the offense, but is no longer explosive and has missed nine games in two seasons. Sean Payton also proved that he can make any receiver look good.

The Saints would take a decent cap hit to release him, but they have the salary cap room to do so if they choose. I think it makes sense for both sides to work something out. However Horn may believe he's still a number one receiver and force his way out. Leaving the Saints wouldn't help his fantasy value.

Domanick Williams (Davis), Texans

A lot of emails came into the mail box regarding the former Mr. Davis. The Texans act as if he doesn't exist. Many writers believe his career is over. Gary Kubiak will probably operate under the assumption that Williams won't be back. If he stays healthy in training camp, he will become a trading chip or compete for carries. Either way, it's a longshot that he will ever a top fantasy pick again.

Deuce McAllister, Saints

McAllister surprised a lot of people, including his own coaching staff, with his great post-ACL surgery effort in 2006. His base salary and bonuses only add up to $3.7 million in 2007. He wouldn't be free to deal because of his signing bonus from 2005.

The Saints would probably listen to trade offers for McAllister, but why mess with a good thing? Unless they got a first-round pick back (unlikely), they may as well hold on to him. McAllister and Reggie Bush make each other better. I doubt Deuce will get any more touches or touchdowns in 2007, so he's not a bad sell-high candidate.

Jake Plummer, Broncos

Plummer made it clear that he won't back up Jay Cutler in Denver. For all his faults, Plummer was a mostly consistent fantasy option and the Broncos didn't exactly surround him with talent this season. A trade to Houston to re-join Gary Kubiak makes perfect sense and would put Plummer back on the fantasy radar. In that scenario, he would have to compete with Sage Rosenfels for snaps. Which means someone else is moving on

David Carr, Texans

A fresh start would serve Carr well, and the Texans appear willing to oblige. There is a big list of teams in need of a veteran quarterback this off-season. Here are a few that could show interest in Carr: Oakland, Minnesota, Detroit, Green Bay, Washington, and Tampa Bay. The track record isn't there, but Carr would be a very popular target on the trade market and could net a first or second round pick. Young quarterbacks don't just come cheaply.


Byron Leftwich, Jaguars

The fans and media in Jacksonville wanted David Garrard. When they got him, they received startlingly similar numbers to Byron Leftwich. Garrard couldn't even hold on to the job, as Quinn Gray gave the Jaguars a shot in the arm with a great Week 17 effort.

Jack Del Rio has to make a choice between Leftwich and Garrard and I suspect he'll choose Leftwich. He was the one who drafted Leftwich. Dirk Koetter, the team's new offensive coordinator, doesn't require mobility in his offense but does require a big arm. Garrard could be moved for a second or third round pick to one of the quarterback hungry teams. Leftwich may cost a little more.

Troy Williamson, Vikings

Minnesota will bring in every veteran receiver possible this off-season, and then draft one or two more. Williamson is only 24, but he faces a vital off-season for his development. He could be at risk of losing a starting gig for good.

Mike Williams, Lions

A lot of people ripped the Vikings during the 2005 draft for passing on Mike Williams to draft Williamson. Who knew it didn't make a difference? There is an outside chance Mike Williams gets cut, and the Lions appear to have low expectations for the USC product. If he becomes a useful slot receiver, they will be pleasantly surprised. Expect Detroit to keep Detroit Mike Furrey and add more talent.

Edgerrin James, Cardinals

Many readers wanted my take on James this off-season. There isn't much to talk about really. New Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt may focus on the run more and should build a better offensive line. That's good news. James is a year older and is approaching 3,000 touches for his career. The Cardinals could also add talent behind him. That's the bad news.

Add it up, and I see more of the same for Edge.

Muhsin Muhammad, Bears

Muhammad's career year was in 2004, so it's easy to forget that he's finished 11 NFL seasons.

Still a useful pro, his days as a fantasy factor could be coming to an end. Bernard Berrian will pass him in production next season and Mark Bradley could be next.

Chris Brown, Titans

I saved most of the free agents for our upcoming preview, but many people emailed about Brown. It's hard to imagine a great career comeback here. He was below average in 2005 and lost his job to Travis Henry in 2006. Brown is talented enough to be a quality third-down back, but don't expect more.

Rod Smith, Broncos

He didn't have any fantasy value in 2006, and I doubt he'll have a starting job in 2007. If you can still get anything at all for Smith, do it now before he retires.
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 10:27 PM

You know what would be funny. If the Dolphins would choose Byron Leftwich for their next starting quarterback. Another guy who sucks, and wont last in that division.

Also, I would love to have McGahee on our team for a second rounder none the less too. I know he's expensive, but he's way more worth it then Michael Turner is. What would you guys rather do?

Turner for 25th overall
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McGahee for 38th overall
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 11:37 PM

QUOTE (JCBizkit87 @ Jan 23 2007, 11:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You know what would be funny. If the Dolphins would choose Byron Leftwich for their next starting quarterback. Another guy who sucks, and wont last in that division.

Also, I would love to have McGahee on our team for a second rounder none the less too. I know he's expensive, but he's way more worth it then Michael Turner is. What would you guys rather do?

Turner for 25th overall
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McGahee for 38th overall



Neither...I don't like the way McGahee bitches...and I don't want to give up anything more than a 4th for Turner...and since that isn't happening (because we don't have a 4th and the Chargers wouldn't trade him for that)...I'll take neither.

But if for the sake of argument we had to pick one...I would take Turner with the second round pick. I know you said Turner with the 25th...but I find it hard to believe any team would give up a first for him.
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 11:39 PM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 24 2007, 05:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Neither...I don't like the way McGahee bitches...and I don't want to give up anything more than a 4th for Turner...and since that isn't happening (because we don't have a 4th and the Chargers wouldn't trade him for that)...I'll take neither.

But if for the sake of argument we had to pick one...I would take Turner with the second round pick. I know you said Turner with the 25th...but I find it hard to believe any team would give up a first for him.


Well, we might not have a choice, especially if the Chargers put the 1st round label on Turner. That 1st round pick is worth way more than just Turner. I'd offer the 38th for Turner.
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