[Jetsfan0099]

Thats was a deal. And i like how you compare Rowand's fielding to Beltran's. The only other Center Fielder thats close to Beltran is Andruw Jones, and even hes a stretch.

The Mets own the Phillies at every position except for 2nd base. Sal Fasano is a chump, he looks like he was born in Philly.

You really showed how much know about baseball with your ridiculous comments

Tori Hunter is a way better fielder then Beltran and Andruw Jones, and also Rowand.

Sal Fasano might suck, but he's a good guy. Just because the mets are doing great this year and I'm supporting my team, dos'nt mean I don't know alot about baseball. I'm not one of those front running Yankee or Red Sux fans. I know my baseball, thankyou, and I like to support my team.
Besides, Rowand is a extremely good fielder. Yes, he could'nt hit a beach ball that was on a tee with a telephone pole. But look at the catch he made against the mets, look at the rest of the diving catches he made. He is a very sharp center fielder, and thats why he has a ring on his finger.

You know, just because a person is a Yankees fan doesnt make them a front runner. Just because they are the best team in history of baseball.
People can like them because their they're team.

[BESTHANDS8381]

first off, howard needs to get better at fielding
second off, wright has a better a better batting average then utley and, did u just see him in the home run derby
third off, beltran has 25 home runs, how many does Rowand have, oh yea thats right 8, and he has a worse BA. and then u can use the 'he played less', well wouldnt that mean he would have a better BA?
and fourth off, WERE STILL IN FIRST BY 12.5 GAMES!

howard needs to get better at fielding since when is delgado such a great fielder?? he is average at best. not saying howard betta overall or even in fielding but he doesnt have to be that good of fielder to be betta than delgado.

[EnRiCH13]

Well no one is saying you cant like your team but when you say Utley is better at second then Wright at third you sound like you dont know baseball.

[ganggreen_ewok]

Sal Fasano might suck, but he's a good guy. Just because the mets are doing great this year and I'm supporting my team, dos'nt mean I don't know alot about baseball. I'm not one of those front running Yankee or Red Sux fans. I know my baseball, thankyou, and I like to support my team.
Besides, Rowand is a extremely good fielder. Yes, he could'nt hit a beach ball that was on a tee with a telephone pole. But look at the catch he made against the mets, look at the rest of the diving catches he made. He is a very sharp center fielder, and thats why he has a ring on his finger.

Look at all the diving catches Beltran has made, thats why when the Mets got him they moved a two-time gold glove Center in Mike Cameron to left field so Beltrsn could play CF. Beltran has much better range and a better throwing arm than Rowand. You guys just fell in love with him because he made one spectacular catch. If he hadn't broken his nose and had bloody spew on his jersey, it wouldn't have look AS good, but great none-the-less.

Oh and if Fasano is such a good guy, then why did he try to spike Jose Reyes twice in one game, for no reason. Hes a chump

Tori Hunter is a way better fielder then Beltran and Andruw Jones, and also Rowand.

I agree, but I meant to say in the NL because I also wouldhave included G Matthews JR. Theres no doubt Hunter is the best CF in the game right now, but sometimes hes a little overhyped because he robs so many home runs. He has only a slightly above-average throwing arm.

howard needs to get better at fielding since when is delgado such a great fielder?? he is average at best. not saying howard betta overall or even in fielding but he doesnt have to be that good of fielder to be betta than delgado.

Thank you for proving my point. I said The Mets dominate the Phillies inn every position except for 2b. That does include Future Hall-of-Famer Carlos Delgado who has only half the errors (6) that Ryan Howard has (12).



Donta messa witha de stats man

[JerseyJet]

Do you guys think foul balls go that high? Do you think you have to pay for the photos?

[ganggreen_ewok]

Sometimes they do. I went to a game at Olympic Stadium when the Expos played there, and we got 2 straight foul balls from Guerrero up in that area, although we were a little lower.

[TheUltimate]

Thats was a deal. And i like how you compare Rowand's fielding to Beltran's. The only other Center Fielder thats close to Beltran is Andruw Jones, and even hes a stretch.

The Mets own the Phillies at every position except for 2nd base. Sal Fasano is a chump, he looks like he was born in Philly.

You really showed how much know about baseball with your ridiculous comments

haha that is nuts to say Beltran is the best CF in baseball and to say that Andruw Jones might be close to him and that is a stretch is just crazy! Beltran is def. a good CF but Andruw Jones is the best fielding CF of this generation, he is this generations Willie Mays, just watching him catch a regular fly ball is fun to watch cause he does it with such grace and ease. And also Andruw Jones has a lot more range then Beltran, haven't you noticed how deep Beltran plays, he lets tons of bloops drop in, and the plays he makes running back is mostly do to how far he plays back.

[ganggreen_ewok]

haha that is nuts to say Beltran is the best CF in baseball and to say that Andruw Jones might be close to him and that is a stretch is just crazy! Beltran is def. a good CF but Andruw Jones is the best fielding CF of this generation, he is this generations Willie Mays, just watching him catch a regular fly ball is fun to watch cause he does it with such grace and ease. And also Andruw Jones has a lot more range then Beltran, haven't you noticed how deep Beltran plays, he lets tons of bloops drop in, and the plays he makes running back is mostly do to how far he plays back.

I'm sorry but I've never seen Beltran let a blooper drop that could have been caught, and I'm talking his KC days too. I would agree with you about Jones 4 or 5 years ago, but since then hes "mysteriously" gained 45 pounds and doesn't have as much mobility as he did. He's still fast and has range, but hes not as fast as Beltran ask any scout and they'll agree

[JerseyJet]

I'm sorry but I've never seen Beltran let a blooper drop that could have been caught, and I'm talking his KC days too. I would agree with you about Jones 4 or 5 years ago, but since then hes "mysteriously" gained 45 pounds and doesn't have as much mobility as he did. He's still fast and has range, but hes not as fast as Beltran ask any scout and they'll agree

Well said. Now can we get back on topic?

[TheUltimate]

I'm sorry but I've never seen Beltran let a blooper drop that could have been caught, and I'm talking his KC days too. I would agree with you about Jones 4 or 5 years ago, but since then hes "mysteriously" gained 45 pounds and doesn't have as much mobility as he did. He's still fast and has range, but hes not as fast as Beltran ask any scout and they'll agree

I am not trying to put down Beltran, but it is just a fact that Beltran plays deeper then most CF cause he has a difficult time going back on balls, and those bloopers that you say aren't catchable maybe could be if he played where normal CF's play.

[ganggreen_ewok]

I am not trying to put down Beltran, but it is just a fact that Beltran plays deeper then most CF cause he has a difficult time going back on balls, and those bloopers that you say aren't catchable maybe could be if he played where normal CF's play.

Sorry JerseyJet, I wish we could get back on topic too, but this child insists on talking crazy talk.

The reason Beltran plays so far back, which isn't really that far two or three steps at the most, is because he has the speed the get the short ones, and the eyes to get the long balls. He also plays in Shea Stadium, one of the largest centerfields in baseball. Peter Gammons said that Beltran is one of the best up and down CFs in the game. You arguments are petty and obviously show your lack of knowledge of the topic at hand

[JerseyJet]

Okay. If you think Jones is better than Beltran, look at the NL East Standings.

Also look at the NL Allstar roster!

[ganggreen_ewok]

Hahahaha thank very much JerseyJet, I'll remember that

[TheUltimate]

Okay. If you think Jones is better than Beltran, look at the NL East Standings.

Also look at the NL Allstar roster!

Ok good point, you are right . So the best defensive player at there position always makes their team win? And Andruw Jones can't do anything about the fans not voting him in, but he was a reserve on the All-Star game. It is all about opinion about who is the better CF, you are a Mets fan so you are obviously gonna be bias towards Beltran. But when their careers are over Andruw Jones is gonna go down as 1 of the best CF's to ever play not Beltran.

P.S. And Peter Gammons also compared Nomar Garciaparra to Ted Williams when he was with Boston. Beltran is 1 of the best CF's in the game, I am just saying I feel that Andruw Jones is a better defensive player.

[JerseyJet]

AVG .279 | HR 25 | RBI 68 | OBP .388 | SLG .606 SB- 12

Carlos Beltran 06 stats



AVG .271 | HR 20 | RBI 75 | OBP .348 | SLG .500 SB-3

Andruw Jones 06 stats.


Who cares about individual stats. You don't route for one player. You route for your team. And if that team is doing good, than they have and impact players. Beltran is now in his prime and happens to be having a better season than Jones. So as I said, If you think that one of them is better than the other, take a look at the NL East standings.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/standings

Explains it all....

[TheUltimate]

AVG .279 | HR 25 | RBI 68 | OBP .388 | SLG .606 SB- 12

Carlos Beltran 06 stats
AVG .271 | HR 20 | RBI 75 | OBP .348 | SLG .500 SB-3

Andruw Jones 06 stats.
Who cares about individual stats. You don't route for one player. You route for your team. And if that team is doing good, than they have and impact players. Beltran is now in his prime and happens to be having a better season than Jones. So as I said, If you think that one of them is better than the other, take a look at the NL East standings.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/standings

Explains it all....

What are you talking about? Earlier in this thread you were talking about how Ryan Howard is better then Delgado, Roward is better then Beltran and Utley is better then Wright, so if you go by your way to deciede who is better then all of what you say is wrong.

P.S. Sorry to ruin your thread, and I have another question for you, how come it is say FRONT ROW!! But then when they show the picture of where you are sitting it is in the upper deck?

[JerseyJet]

P.S. Sorry to ruin your thread, and I have another question for you, how come it is say FRONT ROW!! But then when they show the picture of where you are sitting it is in the upper deck?

Front row of upper deck. Sec 426.

http://philadelphia....ing_diagram.jsp

[TheUltimate]

Front row of upper deck. Sec 426.

http://philadelphia....ing_diagram.jsp

Ahh, well have fun, and yea I think you have a chance of catching a foul ball, especially with a monster like Ryan Howard, I could sit out in the parkin lot and still have a chance of catchin a foul ball if he is hitting. And thats cool that you are seeing them play the Braves now you can see the best CF in the league play, haha j/k.

[ganggreen_ewok]

Very funny

[vilmatime51]

Front row of upper deck. Sec 426.

http://philadelphia....ing_diagram.jsp

what a misleading thread..everyone thought they were FRONT ROW and then it turns out they're FRONT ROW seats in the UPPER DECK? lol