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Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 August 2014 - 07:14 PM) finally made a play on defense once Pryor came in
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 August 2014 - 07:15 PM) besides that INT, Geno looks better than last season IMO. seems more comfortable and is going through progressions.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 August 2014 - 07:18 PM) DeMario Davis seems like hes poised to have a breakout season at LB
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 August 2014 - 07:50 PM) It was nice seeing Pryor in, he made some plays. I think hes going to be the real deal and that we will hit on a stud with him
azjetfan Icon : (16 August 2014 - 08:43 PM) The pick by Geno seemed to be more on Nelson. Nelson sat on his route. Geno threw it were he was supposed to be.
azjetfan Icon : (16 August 2014 - 08:44 PM) Who knows though
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santana Icon : (16 August 2014 - 11:55 PM) Gotta fix that
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:35 PM) Is anyone else as concerned as I am about the secondary?
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:36 PM) I know it's preseason and all but even with Milliner in on the first game we gave up a TD on the first drive to the Colts
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:37 PM) Patterson looked like me out there and Wilson got torched last night
Smedsthejet Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:26 PM) Concerned about the right side of the OLine too - too many penalties and Giacomini wasn't that much better than against the Colts when he was poor
SackExchange71 Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:31 PM) Imo i still think howard is better then giacomini..Wish they never let him walk.Giacomini had alot of flags in seattle also
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:33 AM) Howard recieved a huge contract in Oakland. Way over his actual value.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 10:08 AM) So did we make a trade for a CB yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:51 PM) Milliner did suffer a high ankle sprain, that sucks. could linger all year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:52 PM) I think Patterson sucked vs the Colts because he was injured, which he always is.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
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azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
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Posted 26 January 2007 - 12:30 PM

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25 DT Tank Tyler North Carolina State Sr. 6-2 310

The Jets made due with veteran Kimo von Oelhoffen on the nose last season, but Tyler would give them a prospect to groom at that key position.

is this a joke?? first of all, kimo was obviously not the NT last season. do these morons know anything or just make stuff up as they go along?? secondly, i heard tyler has some disciplinary problems and wouldn't be someone mangini would want on this team. and thirdly, what a waste of a pick that would taking tyler when our needs are DE, OLB, and CB. quentin moses isn't even in the first round in this mock but if we were to pass on him and took tyler, i would flip out. moses is now a 3-4 OLB will a very tall and lean frame and has been doing well in the senior bowl. hes 6'4 250 which is similar to demarcus ware who is 6'4 257 and i am sure he can be the pass rushing LB opposite of bryan thomas. every mock seems to just disrespect the jets, with the blurb saying stuff like, "this might be a reach for the jets, this pick might not be the best for them" well then don't have us taking that person since you know it would be a stupid pick in the first place.
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Posted 26 January 2007 - 12:39 PM

Maybe they expect him to be a DE in the 3-4. He has the right size for it.
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Posted 26 January 2007 - 03:07 PM

QUOTE (VaNDelaYInDusTrIEs @ Jan 26 2007, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Maybe they expect him to be a DE in the 3-4. He has the right size for it.


6-2 FOR A 3/4 de....not really the right size...i want them to do what it takes to get carriker...6-5 7/8 and 290lbs...that is the right size for a 3/4 DE.

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Posted 26 January 2007 - 03:15 PM

i heard moses is overrated and is coming off a very disappointing senior season......i would rather us draft moss or woodley........but any DT not named okoye or branch would be a waste in the 1st i totally agree....their is too many olb with stud potential for us to just fill a need.....also if justin blalock is available he'd be nice too
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Posted 26 January 2007 - 09:34 PM

QUOTE (VILMAmazing51 @ Jan 26 2007, 03:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
6-2 FOR A 3/4 de....not really the right size...i want them to do what it takes to get carriker...6-5 7/8 and 290lbs...that is the right size for a 3/4 DE.

Ok, maybe 6-2 is not the ideal size, but 310 is the right size for a 3-4 DE. My point was that that is pretty undersized for a NT and I would assume that guy would play DE in a 3-4.
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Posted 26 January 2007 - 10:47 PM

QUOTE (VaNDelaYInDusTrIEs @ Jan 26 2007, 10:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok, maybe 6-2 is not the ideal size, but 310 is the right size for a 3-4 DE. My point was that that is pretty undersized for a NT and I would assume that guy would play DE in a 3-4.


Tyler weighed in at 323 at the senior bowl
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Posted 27 January 2007 - 12:11 AM

Jeez i am sick and tired of hearing about size!!! get me someone who is good not fat and cant do anything. Size is overrated!! blowup.gif

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Posted 27 January 2007 - 12:25 AM

no size is not overrated when you are talking about a NT. Size is everything. Some of the people on here just do not understand this defence, there HAS to be a monter at NT to keep the o line off the Lb's. That is the entire idea behind the 3-4. most of the plays are made by the LB's.

Go look up the size of the NT's on any team with a good 3-4 D
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Posted 27 January 2007 - 11:47 AM

QUOTE (mangold107 @ Jan 27 2007, 01:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
no size is not overrated when you are talking about a NT. Size is everything. Some of the people on here just do not understand this defence, there HAS to be a monter at NT to keep the o line off the Lb's. That is the entire idea behind the 3-4. most of the plays are made by the LB's.

Go look up the size of the NT's on any team with a good 3-4 D

Actually, size is quite overrated. I hate it when someone says "just get someone who's 350 to play NT". Size is not the most important thing. Technique and mechanics are. I agree that if someone is too undersized, they would have trouble playing NT. That was my point about Tyler, because in the mock it has him at 310. It would be difficult for someone who is 310 to play NT. But just because a guy is a fat slob, that doesn't mean he would make a good NT. I'll take a guy who is 325 and knows how to play the nose over a guy who's 350 and doesn't any day of the week.
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Posted 27 January 2007 - 12:48 PM

QUOTE (VaNDelaYInDusTrIEs @ Jan 27 2007, 12:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Actually, size is quite overrated. I hate it when someone says "just get someone who's 350 to play NT". Size is not the most important thing. Technique and mechanics are. I agree that if someone is too undersized, they would have trouble playing NT. That was my point about Tyler, because in the mock it has him at 310. It would be difficult for someone who is 310 to play NT. But just because a guy is a fat slob, that doesn't mean he would make a good NT. I'll take a guy who is 325 and knows how to play the nose over a guy who's 350 and doesn't any day of the week.

iagree.gif exactly what i meant, Look at the packers during the second super bowl when they lost. What was the name of that dt again i forget but he was close to 400 lbs and who couldnt stop anything that day, he just got man handled.

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Posted 27 January 2007 - 12:58 PM

If we wanted size we could of draft Gabe Watson who is just a fat ass. He is over 330, but he is mainly fat and is out of shape. Dewayne Robertson is actually pretty good, because he is using good technique. I actually want to see him at NT for another year, and I think the Jets are going to do the same, because there is no NTs available. Well any good ones. The Jets would be more wise to go after a DE for the 3-4, since that was our main problem, Kimo almost made no plays this year, getting blown up. Kimo is just too old, he lost alot from last year to this year. He is only getting older, he is a back up now at best.
The Jets should get Carriker with our first round pick, I heard he has been a beast in the senior bowl practices.
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Posted 27 January 2007 - 01:28 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 27 2007, 01:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If we wanted size we could of draft Gabe Watson who is just a fat ass. He is over 330, but he is mainly fat and is out of shape. Dewayne Robertson is actually pretty good, because he is using good technique. I actually want to see him at NT for another year, and I think the Jets are going to do the same, because there is no NTs available. Well any good ones. The Jets would be more wise to go after a DE for the 3-4, since that was our main problem, Kimo almost made no plays this year, getting blown up. Kimo is just too old, he lost alot from last year to this year. He is only getting older, he is a back up now at best.
The Jets should get Carriker with our first round pick, I heard he has been a beast in the senior bowl practices.


iagree.gif on the money again 0099 . good week of practice .

size does matter at NT but so does quality . but Vince Woolfork's don't grow on trees .

the best value is Carriker at an equal need , if he's there at 25 .
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Posted 27 January 2007 - 03:33 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 27 2007, 01:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If we wanted size we could of draft Gabe Watson who is just a fat ass. He is over 330, but he is mainly fat and is out of shape. Dewayne Robertson is actually pretty good, because he is using good technique. I actually want to see him at NT for another year, and I think the Jets are going to do the same, because there is no NTs available. Well any good ones. The Jets would be more wise to go after a DE for the 3-4, since that was our main problem, Kimo almost made no plays this year, getting blown up. Kimo is just too old, he lost alot from last year to this year. He is only getting older, he is a back up now at best.
The Jets should get Carriker with our first round pick, I heard he has been a beast in the senior bowl practices.




LOLOLOLOLOL..................thats it we should sign leonard davis and make his fat ass play NT............im not saying size isnt everything because it is alot and probab;y the 1st thing to look at when looking for a NT but skill and technique are almost just as important and they make up for alot when a NT lacks size
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Posted 28 January 2007 - 11:01 AM

385 pounds in the middle. Sounds good to me! Lol.....
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