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ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
santana Icon : (24 April 2015 - 11:32 PM) TEH WIZ
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:57 AM) Teh Suarez
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:00 AM) Until next time fellas!
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:19 PM) Helloooooooooo
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:19 PM) Bueller
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:33 PM) Manish says the Jets should trade down and draft Andrus Peat round 1
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 04:39 PM) Even an idiot can say something that's right every now and then
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Could This Controversy Ruin Giants Season and hurt there franchise

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 12:09 PM

with buress probably done for the year (there best WR by far) the giants are looking thin at WR. toomer and hixon will start and moss and smith are the 3rd and 4th WRs. thats not looking good

plus teh leader of there defense (pierce) is under investigation for hiding the gun that plex shot himself with. he could see a suspension that could take him away for teh playoffs and the giants are thin at LBer

also buress is facing 3.5 years minimum sentence meaning his career will likely be over

I think everything is just falling in place for us, our main competition lost its starting QB (brady)
The team that looked the best in the NFC lost its best WR for the season and now possibly its best defensive player.
Favre fell in our laps

what else could go our way
Get it done MT
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Posted 30 November 2008 - 12:23 PM

we resign richardson another year and favre comes back and we goto back to back bowls smile.gif
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Posted 30 November 2008 - 01:10 PM

This controversy will help the Giants big time. Maybe repeat as champs. They did well without Shockey last year. They won't skip a beat. They have capable back ups.
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Posted 30 November 2008 - 01:14 PM

This will not help them at all. Plax is a focal point teams key on all game and a big reason teams play soft. Teams will now load the box and dare them to pass. No Shockey,No plax, Brandon Jacobs banged up. It's going to be a long road from here on out.

This will have a ripple effect and of the positive variety.
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Posted 30 November 2008 - 01:20 PM

QUOTE (reg83ny @ Nov 30 2008, 01:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This controversy will help the Giants big time. Maybe repeat as champs. They did well without Shockey last year. They won't skip a beat. They have capable back ups.



Took the words right out of my mouth...they'll be fine. They may lose a talented player...but they get rid of a huge distraction.
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Posted 30 November 2008 - 01:41 PM

The Giants offense is not focused around Plaxico. Their offense is led by their running game and Eli. As long as that part of their game is intact then they'll be fine. Their offensive line is so good that it doesn't matter how many people you stack in the box they'll still run it down your throat. Another good example that Plaxico is not the focal point is that Steve Smith leads the Giants in receptions this year, not Plaxico. And if you've seen all of their games then you know that they've actually played better without Plaxico this year.
“We know we’re better than you, we don’t give a f*ck if you know it or not, we don’t give a sh*t if you give us your best game, we’re gonna give you our best game and we’re gonna beat the f*ck outta ya. How’s that?”

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 01:45 PM

QUOTE (S-Dubb @ Nov 30 2008, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This will not help them at all. Plax is a focal point teams key on all game and a big reason teams play soft. Teams will now load the box and dare them to pass. No Shockey,No plax, Brandon Jacobs banged up. It's going to be a long road from here on out.

This will have a ripple effect and of the positive variety.


They're dominating the Redskins right now. The loss of Shockey was the most overrated story of the off-season. Plax can obviously take over a game but he's really been non-existent this year. Brandon Jacobs is healthy now and even if he wasn't they basically have 2 starters behind him in Bradshaw and Ward. They're loaded!

UPDATE

They were dominating, not anymore though, lol.
“We know we’re better than you, we don’t give a f*ck if you know it or not, we don’t give a sh*t if you give us your best game, we’re gonna give you our best game and we’re gonna beat the f*ck outta ya. How’s that?”

-Rex Ryan, Hard Knocks
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Posted 30 November 2008 - 02:36 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Nov 30 2008, 12:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
with buress probably done for the year (there best WR by far) the giants are looking thin at WR. toomer and hixon will start and moss and smith are the 3rd and 4th WRs. thats not looking good

plus teh leader of there defense (pierce) is under investigation for hiding the gun that plex shot himself with. he could see a suspension that could take him away for teh playoffs and the giants are thin at LBer

also buress is facing 3.5 years minimum sentence meaning his career will likely be over

I think everything is just falling in place for us, our main competition lost its starting QB (brady)
The team that looked the best in the NFC lost its best WR for the season and now possibly its best defensive player.
Favre fell in our laps

what else could go our way


You would.....


Come on man. Burress hasn't even done anything overly impressive this year (35 for 454, 4 tds). By comparison, Hixon has 21 for 302 and a td. That team just plugs in backups and doesn't miss a beat. If anything, they lose a huge pain-in-the-ass distraction, as Hurricane said.

The only thing that may affect them is a potential Pierce loss. And can we worry about the Pats, Steelers, Colts, etc.... not the Giants?
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