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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Sources Say Jets Willing To Part With 1st Round Pick For Michael Turner

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Posted 23 January 2007 - 03:40 PM

http://www.rotoworld...ort=NFL&id=2641

Scout.com reports "sources familiar with the Chargers" believe the Jets are willing to trade their first-round pick for Michael Turner. Turner, a restricted free agent, isn't even under contract with San Diego, but this appears to be a possibility once he's tendered. The Jets would then explore signing him long term. San Diego is reportedly now looking at running back prospects, possibly Penn State's Tony Hunt.
Source: scout.com


i would be super pissed if we did this. "i do not think micheal turner is worth a 1st round draft choice. even though it will be at #25, we should bring in our own players via the draft and coach them up in our system. i just feel like we would be getting ripped off because SD wouldn't be losing anything. whether or not turner is on their team next season does not really matter since they have LT. giving them a 1st rounder when james and alexander couldn't even get a 2nd rounder would be totally unfair to us. we should just draft micheal bush at #37 since he might be the steal of the draft when he turns out to be a TD machine."
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 04:10 PM

this might just be a smoke screen by the Chargers looking to get a higher pick in the 1st round for turner or it could be a smoke scrren by the Jets looking to trap the Chargers into trading Turner for a 2nd rounder..

if its the Jets than Schott must really have seen something in the guy from his time in San Diego if he's willing to give up a first!
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 04:38 PM

Scout.com doesn't know a thing about what the Jets are gonna do. Who are these "sources"? Last time I checked, the Jets front office was like Fort Knox. Infomation doesn't leak out of there anymore.

It's not even offseason yet and there are so-called sources inside the Chargers FO that are telling people Michael Turner is up for a grabs? I don't think so. Sounds like some talking internet heads. I'm willing to bet that the Turner doesn't even come to NY because the Jets aren't gonna part with draft picks when they can get a RB in the draft. Tanny knows better. He's already said they are gonna build the right way. You don't trade for a franchise RB, you draft them.
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 04:42 PM

No f.ing thank you he's not worth a first rounder, he's gonna ask for a lot of money because he's like the only FA RB, and we could just get Micheal Bush in the second round meanwhile we can get a DE in the first round. He's Not that good.

QUOTE (jets0n @ Jan 23 2007, 05:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You don't trade for a franchise RB, you draft them.

Exactly look at Edgrein James and the cards

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Posted 23 January 2007 - 04:45 PM

QUOTE (cmart=the best @ Jan 23 2007, 05:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No f.ing thank you he's not worth a first rounder, he's gonna ask for a lot of money because he's like the only FA RB, and we could just get Micheal Bush in the second round meanwhile we can get a DE in the first round. He's Not that good.


Let's hope management realizes that too! These days I get nervous.

In all honesty, this is just the same speculation that reporters keep writing about because it's been out there written already by some other moron that is speculating. It's people SPECULATING. They wouldn't even give up a 1st round pick for Reggie Bush. Why would they do it for Turner?
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 04:49 PM

Bush is kinda like the Maurice Jones-Drew in this draft. and i wouldnt mind having a guy like that on this team. He got some major yards while splitting time w/ Taylor. He also ran all over the Pats. icon_idea.gif

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Posted 23 January 2007 - 05:44 PM

QUOTE (cmart=the best @ Jan 23 2007, 05:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No f.ing thank you he's not worth a first rounder, he's gonna ask for a lot of money because he's like the only FA RB, and we could just get Micheal Bush in the second round meanwhile we can get a DE in the first round. He's Not that good.
Exactly look at Edgrein James and the cards


That's because the Cards o-line blows. Look at Marshall Faulk and the Rams, he was drafted by the Colts, look at Corey Dillon, he was drafted by the Bengals, but he helped the Pats get to the Super Bowl in 04. Not saying to give the Chargers a 1st, but James isn't the problem in Arizona.
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 05:53 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Jan 23 2007, 05:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Scout.com doesn't know a thing about what the Jets are gonna do. Who are these "sources"? Last time I checked, the Jets front office was like Fort Knox. Infomation doesn't leak out of there anymore.


Exactly.. man you're on the money today. iagree.gif . Bogus material!
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 06:10 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Jan 23 2007, 07:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You don't trade for a franchise RB, you draft them.

Just throwing this out there. We didn't draft curtis martin.


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Posted 23 January 2007 - 06:28 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Jan 23 2007, 05:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Scout.com doesn't know a thing about what the Jets are gonna do. Who are these "sources"? Last time I checked, the Jets front office was like Fort Knox. Infomation doesn't leak out of there anymore.

It's not even offseason yet and there are so-called sources inside the Chargers FO that are telling people Michael Turner is up for a grabs? I don't think so. Sounds like some talking internet heads. I'm willing to bet that the Turner doesn't even come to NY because the Jets aren't gonna part with draft picks when they can get a RB in the draft. Tanny knows better. He's already said they are gonna build the right way. You don't trade for a franchise RB, you draft them.



I agree with your point on this but the one exception would have to be Curtis


not saying this guy is the next Curtis .. but it woudnt be the first time we got one that way
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 06:29 PM

QUOTE (cmart=the best @ Jan 23 2007, 05:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Bush is kinda like the Maurice Jones-Drew in this draft. and i wouldnt mind having a guy like that on this team. He got some major yards while splitting time w/ Taylor. He also ran all over the Pats. icon_idea.gif


I don't know what you're pointing to saying they are similiar...but I don't see any similiarities...other than possible draft spots.

Michael Bush is 6'3"...
Maurice Drew is 5'7"...

Michael Bush is injured...
Maurice Drew had a killer final season...

Michael Bush is a big, slow guy...
Marice Drew is a burner with power...



I just don't see the comparisons...
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 06:48 PM

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QUOTE (Mephisto @ Jan 23 2007, 05:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just throwing this out there. We didn't draft curtis martin.

iagree.gif michael turner has the abilties to become a very good back. He is fast, big and strong
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 07:28 PM

This trade is a good thing. I think the NY teams need to band together and make stupid trades to make the Chargers as strong as possible. The Giants already did their part...
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 07:33 PM

If they did that trade, I will be alittle bit mad, unless Turner runs for over 1,200 yards, I will say it was a horrible trade. Turner was a 5th round draft pick, and people are acting like this guy is top 10 talent. Or even first round talent, the Chargers have to know that he really doesnt have that much value, I mean the most carries he had in a season was 80. Thats not worth a first round pick to me. I would be mad if this happened.
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 07:54 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Jan 23 2007, 05:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Scout.com doesn't know a thing about what the Jets are gonna do. Who are these "sources"? Last time I checked, the Jets front office was like Fort Knox. Infomation doesn't leak out of there anymore.


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Good post. IMO it all seems like speculation. I doubt anyone really knows what the Jets are going to this offseason (besides themselves), which is the way it should be.
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Posted 23 January 2007 - 08:36 PM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 23 2007, 07:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't know what you're pointing to saying they are similiar...but I don't see any similiarities...other than possible draft spots.

Michael Bush is 6'3"...
Maurice Drew is 5'7"...

Michael Bush is injured...
Maurice Drew had a killer final season...

Michael Bush is a big, slow guy...
Marice Drew is a burner with power...
I just don't see the comparisons...

Yeah Bad analogy would Steven Jackson from STL be a better comaparison to Bush

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Posted 23 January 2007 - 08:40 PM

QUOTE (cmart=the best @ Jan 23 2007, 09:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah Bad analogy would Steven Jackson from STL be a better comaparison to Bush

id sayy bush is a jamal lewis like back





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Posted 24 January 2007 - 10:31 AM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 23 2007, 08:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If they did that trade, I will be alittle bit mad, unless Turner runs for over 1,200 yards, I will say it was a horrible trade. Turner was a 5th round draft pick, and people are acting like this guy is top 10 talent. Or even first round talent, the Chargers have to know that he really doesnt have that much value, I mean the most carries he had in a season was 80. Thats not worth a first round pick to me. I would be mad if this happened.


If he didn't run for 1600 yards then I'd be pissed. 1200 is pedestrian for a 1st round pick.

None the less, Tony Hunt seems to be on the Jets radar. He's a big back at 237 lbs. That's nice.
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Posted 24 January 2007 - 12:05 PM

For the 179th time, Turner has not proved he is worth giving up a 1st round pick for! Especially this year with the amount of talent available in the draft.
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Posted 24 January 2007 - 12:25 PM

It's no secret that I don't think Turner is worthy of a first rounder. However, as others have said, Schott was in San Diego for Turner's first two years. He certainly knows a lot more about Turner than any of us do. If he and Tangini decide to give up the first rounder for him, there must be a damn good reason. If they do pull the trigger on this, I'm gonna reserve my judgement until I see Turner play. I'm hoping they don't, but if they do it could only be because Schott really likes him.
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