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MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) good
MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:55 PM) updated roster. FB howsare released, TE bowman added to roster
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Posted 25 January 2007 - 03:01 AM

Are you guys watching Carriker? This guy is blowing guys the fvck up. He's really impressive. He's in the backfield on every play. He's making guys look like babies out there. He's really getting it done!
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Posted 25 January 2007 - 11:42 AM

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Your not really going to find any guys who can do that immediately in this draft.......at least where we pick..............also on alot of mocks i see mccauley going to us in the 1st I've always hated that


iagree.gif But if McAuley falls then it may not be a bad idea to look at him at the end of the 2nd as a possible future replacement for Dyson perhaps.

If we're going to bolster the secondary it should be done in FA if we want an immediate contributor.
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Posted 25 January 2007 - 08:06 PM

apparently victor abiamari has been having a good senior bowl thinking from my memory of reading scott wright's blog. tony hunt is just like cedric, north-south and a lack of running ability to the outside. ill pass. but apparently the jets are looking at anthony spencer who has good speed at 4.7, undersized but could be a good bargain as a linebacker. also the jets looked at levi brown as a possible right tackle, but i dont like the reports ive read, ill pass again.
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Posted 25 January 2007 - 08:27 PM

after watching the senior bowl, it should be clear to everyone that we must try to draft adam carriker at #25. now the question is whether or not he will be there. he is a perfect fit as a 3-4 DE and there are not many 3-4 teams that are looking for a DE. the only two that i can think of are the browns and steelers, but the browns would draft branch and the steelers might be changing to a 4-3 defense with the new coach. carriker might not have the speed to rush the edge in a 4-3 scheme and might not have the pure bulk to play DT so i am not sure how high he will be considered for team using the 4-3 scheme. i also like the idea of drafting anthony spencer. he has shown power and edge rushing speed against levi brown in the senior bowl. he would fit very nicely as a 3-4 OLB. the question then becomes do we use our first or second rounder on a RB. will bush be there at #57?? can we get turner for our second?? if we cannot, we might need to roll the dice and draft either bush at #37 or trade #37 for turner, and hope that spencer/abiamiri fall to #57. now if carriker is not there at #25, then we might draft jarvis moss, or quentin moses if he falls. i wouldn't be opposed to that since they will be premium pass rushing OLBs. then we can always draft baraka atkins with #57 and get micheal bush at #37. i trust our FO will do what is best for our team, which is stay with the youth movement, improve via the draft, and coach our own players up.
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Posted 25 January 2007 - 08:31 PM

I always miss the north pratice wen is it on i only catch the south.

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Posted 25 January 2007 - 09:01 PM

i am so happy they're looking at Anthony Spencer, the guy is going to be a monster 3-4 OLB
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Posted 25 January 2007 - 10:04 PM

http://sports.espn.g...tory?id=2738443

i'm going to be looking at all the rbs. i'm already sold on carriker. it depends what we do in the fa.
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Posted 25 January 2007 - 10:27 PM

i think everyone agrees that if our first 3 picks go as my signature suggests, we will be in awesome shape for next year. we will address 3 immediate needs on our team by solidifying our front seven and running game. make it happen jets.
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Posted 25 January 2007 - 10:40 PM

I tell who I'm really impressed with...Brandon Myles...WR from West Virginia. I liked him as a sleeper before the Senior Bowl, because he was the best WR in a running offense. But I'm not sure he's a sleeper anymore. He has good height and speed...great hands...body control...adjusts well. And while watching the practices he has shown to be a beast in the red zone. I think he caught everyone of the balls they through to him in the goal line passing drills. He would be an excellent mid round pick...might take a few years like Cotchery...but could develop into an excellent reciever and be the replacement for Coles.

I also am looking into what Brandon Mebane can bring as a potential NT. He isn't the most athletic guy...but he is a big time overachiever and strong. But the thing is you don't have to be a speedy, athletic tackle to be a nose...you need strength and the ability to take on multiple blockers. If the guy can put on more weight...he might be our eventual answer. He's already got the Mangini character....now we just need to find out if he can bulk up a little more.

And yeah...Adam Carriker has definitely impressed me. I heard Gruden say he thinks he could be a 3 technique tackle aswell in a 4-3. That sucks, because it only pushes his value up. I originally thought he would be a good pick with the 2a pick...but now I don't know if he'll last. If he continues this play and has a good combine...we might have no choice but to take him with the first if the Jets want him.

Victor Abiamiri is having a good practice...except that he kept getting owned by Levi Brown. But I don't think he's a 3-4 player. I see him more as a 4-3 DE than a 3-4 OLB...it's just me.

OG Josh Beekman continues to impress me...I definitely wouldn't mind seeing him taken with the 2b pick.

I kind of like Chris Davis, WR from FSU. He is tiny, at 6'0" and only 180 lbs. But he seems to me kind of like a Tim Dwight type. He is fast and shifty and runs good routes...he is also more than willing to go over the middle despite his size. With a little pro strength training he could turn into a good 3rd or 4th WR and provide an extra dimension.

QUOTE (jhsensation10 @ Jan 25 2007, 11:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i think everyone agrees that if our first 3 picks go as my signature suggests, we will be in awesome shape for next year. we will address 3 immediate needs on our team by solidifying our front seven and running game. make it happen jets.


I don't...
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Posted 26 January 2007 - 12:03 PM

I think Tui is gonna be our NT. He's a monster. We have monsters on the roster. Problem is Tui, who was really showing alot of promise in preseason and getting alot of people.. Madden included.. really excited. I dont think the Jets are gonna take a NT until Tui proves he can't play the position.
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Posted 26 January 2007 - 12:05 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Jan 26 2007, 12:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think Tui is gonna be our NT. He's a monster. We have monsters on the roster. Problem is Tui, who was really showing alot of promise in preseason and getting alot of people.. Madden included.. really excited. I dont think the Jets are gonna take a NT until Tui proves he can't play the position.


Tui isn't on the team anymore...we had this discussion maybe a week ago trying to figure out if he was still on the team...someone found an article saying the team had reached an injury settlement and realeased him...
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Posted 26 January 2007 - 12:08 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Jan 26 2007, 05:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think Tui is gonna be our NT. He's a monster. We have monsters on the roster. Problem is Tui, who was really showing alot of promise in preseason and getting alot of people.. Madden included.. really excited. I dont think the Jets are gonna take a NT until Tui proves he can't play the position.


Problem with Tui is firstly he was on IR all last season meaning he is coming back from a pretty significant injury which meant he missed precious experience, putting his development back a bit. Also being an UFA it is assumed generally he will have less talent than someone available in the draft and he won't be a big cap casualty. Even if they draft a NT in the 4th or 5th rounds it is more likely they make the roster than Tui.
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Posted 26 January 2007 - 12:11 PM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 26 2007, 12:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Tui isn't on the team anymore...we had this discussion maybe a week ago trying to figure out if he was still on the team...someone found an article saying the team had reached an injury settlement and realeased him...


Really.... that sucks. Didn't know that.

*looking around paranoid then screaming*

IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD! SKY IS FALLING!


Guess we're in the market for a NT. There aren't many quality NT's though so I'm not sure they address that in the draft. I'm guessing go pretty heavily after Terrell Sands aka The Immoval Object. That guy played really good this year.
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Posted 26 January 2007 - 12:11 PM

QUOTE (Smedsthejet @ Jan 26 2007, 12:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Problem with Tui is firstly he was on IR all last season meaning he is coming back from a pretty significant injury which meant he missed precious experience, putting his development back a bit. Also being an UFA it is assumed generally he will have less talent than someone available in the draft and he won't be a big cap casualty. Even if they draft a NT in the 4th or 5th rounds it is more likely they make the roster than Tui.


He still isn't on the team...
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Posted 26 January 2007 - 12:12 PM

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He still isn't on the team...


Your post was posted whilst I was writing mine so I didn't read he wasn't on the team until after my post. I too didn't know he was released, but now I do. crazy.gif
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Posted 26 January 2007 - 12:15 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Jan 26 2007, 12:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Really.... that sucks. Didn't know that.

*looking around paranoid then screaming*

IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD! SKY IS FALLING!
Guess we're in the market for a NT. There aren't many quality NT's though so I'm not sure they address that in the draft. I'm guessing go pretty heavily after Terrell Sands aka The Immoval Object. That guy played really good this year.


Sands sounds like a good idea at first...at 335 pounds why wouldn't he...but take a closer look and you'll see he's 6'7". That is way too tall for a 3-4 NT. He needs to be a lot shorter to get good leverage. He's too lean...and I use that term loosely...to be a NT to me. The only other guy who is even close to 6'7" and plays NT is Ted Washington...but he's only 6'5" and a whopping 365 pounds...I mean Jebus...365 POUNDS!

So it's possible...but I'm not banking money on Sands being a great NT...
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Posted 26 January 2007 - 12:29 PM

His momma must have been feeding him out of a trough because that's unnaturally huge and it's gotta be unhealthy. None the less, I heard alot of positives about Sands and the Raiders had a top 10 defense this year. I think it's because he played so well, but whether or not he can be a 3-4 tackle... I don't know. All I know is I'd rather keep Robertson there and draft Carriker.

DRob actually started to get pretty dominant at NT in the 2nd half of the season. I remember looking at him and being amazed.... that's a compliment considering in weeks 1-8 I was constantly screaming at the TV, "D-ROB YOU FAT ASS, YOU SUCK!" everytime a RB gained 5 yards. If we got an end that could get off tacklers to get to the ball carrier I think our line would be primo with DRob at NT.

He's not actually that much smaller than Casey Hampton actually and he's considered to be the best NT in the game right now. I think he can do it.
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Posted 26 January 2007 - 12:39 PM

I really think D-Rob is going to play very good next year, last year was his first time playing NT and his first time playing in the 3-4 and he did a good job the second half of the season. With more experience and maybe some weight gain he can become a very good NT, and it seems Mangini already really likes him. The huge problem on the d-line is KVO, the guy was horrible last year. He was usually blocked by only one lineman and usually was completely taken out of the play. If he is replaced by a very good player, our run D is going to shoot up a lot.
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Posted 26 January 2007 - 12:41 PM

The Jets were looking at, Levi Brown, Anthony Spencer,Ryan Mcbean. Looks like the Jets are defintley trying to upgrade the front 7. They are looking at the DEs and OLB for 3-4s. I want Carriker at first round, if he is doing that good. I want Beekman with our first 2nd round. Then Brian Leonard with our 2nd 2nd round.
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Posted 26 January 2007 - 12:53 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 26 2007, 06:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The Jets were looking at, Levi Brown, Anthony Spencer,Ryan Mcbean. Looks like the Jets are defintley trying to upgrade the front 7. They are looking at the DEs and OLB for 3-4s. I want Carriker at first round, if he is doing that good. I want Beekman with our first 2nd round. Then Brian Leonard with our 2nd 2nd round.


Why invest a second rounder in a FB - a position not really utilized much in Schotty Jr's offense last season? Leonard is a good player but I'd much rather get, if they draft who you said (Carriker and Beekman), an OLB, RB, WR or CB than a FB.
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