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XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:46 PM) Yeah gonna go with a good old f*** Geno this week. He is still playing better than last year though
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santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) well
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) Because we destoy any promise in our young QBs with our elite offensive support talent.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) TIME TO CHANGE THE DIAPER
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) another game next week
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XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:52 PM) I'd like to use the same excuse I used for Sanchez. QB can't really do shit when your best WR would be a #3 if he was lucky on any other team
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santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:53 PM) because if he's underpaid I don't see him sticking around
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:54 PM) he only looks good because our O is so bad.
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Is This The Best Jets Staff Ever? is this the best jets staff ever?

Poll: is this the best jets staff ever? (24 member(s) have cast votes)

is this the best jets staff ever?

  1. Yes (7 votes [29.17%])

    Percentage of vote: 29.17%

  2. No (17 votes [70.83%])

    Percentage of vote: 70.83%

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Posted 14 September 2006 - 12:42 AM

is this the best jets staff ever?

if you vote no who do u think is?

i think schott has this offense looking the best it has since 1998, out defense looked very good under sutton, westhoff is one of the bets sp teams coaches, mangini looks like a stud HC, MT is a master negotaior and capologist at GM, and TB is a great head scout. what do u guys think?
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 12:54 AM

no, maybe one day it will be great, but it doesn't even compare to 1998 - 99

Parcells
Belichick
Weis
Crennell
Mangini
Dan Henning (panthers OC)

possibly greatest staff ever
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 01:47 AM

I agree with DDS but I don't think Mangini is done bringing in coaches. He'll be looking to improve his staff more then likely but I do think it's a very good one as is right now and with time perhaps we can have a run like the Pats did. Or atleast be perennial playoff contenders.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 06:29 AM

Weeb Ewbank and Co. The staff that won the superbowl is the greatest ever. dance.gif
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 07:10 AM

No, that's a dumb question, we've played one team that will probably have a top 5 pick. For now, it's Weeb and his gang.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 07:40 AM

Isnt this a little premature after 1 game?
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 07:54 AM

Yeah I think it is a bit early to start talking best ever. They do look almost perfect but we are also coming off a few disappointing seasons so that adds to it.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 08:44 AM

Four people actually voted yes? hysterical.gif
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 09:20 AM

Dumb question, its been one game, a pretty good game, but still just one.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 09:38 AM

The Parcells era never produced a Championship. Under Mangini I think that'll change and when it does it's going to equal rings for the team.

The Parcells era never produced a Championship. Under Mangini I think that'll change and when it does it's going to equal rings for the team. So, since they'll... hopefully... produce a Championship for the Jets I voted yes. The offense looked great and high powered. As soon as we get a running game going which could be in a few weeks when the OLine gets more comfortable in eachother and the system, we're gonna be really good.

The thing you have to realize is Belichick wasn't anything special when he was here. Neither were any of the other coaches. They had that potential but in no way were they at their peak. As much as I hate the guy, Tom Brady really is the reason Belichick has been successful. It comes down to QB play and Tom had/has a huge chip on his shoulder. Probably about where he was drafted. None the less, Weis is also a genius, just look at ND. So, don't forget about those things.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 09:47 AM

QUOTE (DewayneDontSign @ Sep 14 2006, 02:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
no, maybe one day it will be great, but it doesn't even compare to 1998 - 99

Parcells
Belichick
Weis
Crennell
Mangini
Dan Henning (panthers OC)

possibly greatest staff ever


This staff also had what 4 first rounders, and still could not get a championship. Its more than just coaching. All the stars have to be aligned.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 09:57 AM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Sep 14 2006, 08:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The Parcells era never produced a Championship. Under Mangini I think that'll change and when it does it's going to equal rings for the team.

The Parcells era never produced a Championship. Under Mangini I think that'll change and when it does it's going to equal rings for the team. So, since they'll... hopefully... produce a Championship for the Jets I voted yes. The offense looked great and high powered. As soon as we get a running game going which could be in a few weeks when the OLine gets more comfortable in eachother and the system, we're gonna be really good.

The thing you have to realize is Belichick wasn't anything special when he was here. Neither were any of the other coaches. They had that potential but in no way were they at their peak. As much as I hate the guy, Tom Brady really is the reason Belichick has been successful. It comes down to QB play and Tom had/has a huge chip on his shoulder. Probably about where he was drafted. None the less, Weis is also a genius, just look at ND. So, don't forget about those things.

It's amazing how many people don't think. They win one game against a team that was horrible last year and you think they might bring the Jets a championship somewhere down the road so you vote them the best Jets coaching staff ever? Hey, although you may think so at the time, you're first lay more than likely won't be your best! beach.gif
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 10:05 AM

QUOTE (Long Time Jet Fan @ Sep 14 2006, 11:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's amazing how many people don't think. They win one game against a team that was horrible last year and you think they might bring the Jets a championship somewhere down the road so you vote them the best Jets coaching staff ever? Hey, although you may think so at the time, you're first lay more than likely won't be your best! beach.gif


Thing is, there hasn't been a championship here in 37 years dude. How can you say we had the best we possibly could when they didn't produce anything? Not only that, but opinions are opinions and believe it or not, mine are very well thought out. I stated the reasons for believing the way I did. This team doesn't look anything like they were supposed to. The offense was one of the best in the league. In their first season, I think we might have the best staff yet. I like what I see from the offense, obviously not the running game, but it's very versatile. The defense needs to be tweaked just a little bit but for the most part they're pretty good.

Maybe it's hype from a win that makes me feel this way. If Mangini can win with supposed no bodies then I think he'll be able to really do some damage with time and personelle. None the less, I've thought about this at length. And I think that our coaching staff now, although maybe not better RIGHT NOW, will be because they'll get us a championship. Something all the others have failed to do since Weeb.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 10:06 AM

QUOTE (bleedsgreen @ Sep 14 2006, 11:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This staff also had what 4 first rounders, and still could not get a championship. Its more than just coaching. All the stars have to be aligned.


the first 4 rounders was the al groh era, the Parcells staff took a team that was 1-15, one of the worst teams in NFL history and made them 9-7 in their first year and an AFC Championship in their second. It was coaching at its finest.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 10:14 AM

QUOTE (DewayneDontSign @ Sep 14 2006, 01:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
no, maybe one day it will be great, but it doesn't even compare to 1998 - 99

Parcells
Belichick
Weis
Crennell
Mangini
Dan Henning (panthers OC)

possibly greatest staff ever


Other than the Walsh West Coast era, where can you find a staff that turned into 3 NFL head coaches, 1 NCAA coach (and we ain't talking East Minnesota State College here), and Henning will probably be a Head Coach as well. Also, while they didn't win a ring together, combined they're 5 of six in Super Bowl appearances.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 10:16 AM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Sep 14 2006, 08:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thing is, there hasn't been a championship here in 37 years dude. How can you say we had the best we possibly could when they didn't produce anything? Not only that, but opinions are opinions and believe it or not, mine are very well thought out. I stated the reasons for believing the way I did. This team doesn't look anything like they were supposed to. The offense was one of the best in the league. In their first season, I think we might have the best staff yet. I like what I see from the offense, obviously not the running game, but it's very versatile. The defense needs to be tweaked just a little bit but for the most part they're pretty good.

Maybe it's hype from a win that makes me feel this way. If Mangini can win with supposed no bodies then I think he'll be able to really do some damage with time and personelle. None the less, I've thought about this at length. And I think that our coaching staff now, although maybe not better RIGHT NOW, will be because they'll get us a championship. Something all the others have failed to do since Weeb.

First off, just because a coaching staff gets you a championship (and the Jets are still far from that) doesn't mean they are the best. You think Eubank was the best Jets coach ever because he won a championship? Sonny Werblin won that Super Bowl plain and simple. He spent the money to bring in players likes Namath and Snell. Eubank on the other hand was a cheap SOB and was primarily responsible for the Jets sucking for so long after the Super Bowl win. The Parcells era was by far the best staff the Jets have had. Just look at what those guys have accomplished as individuals. Yeah they didn't win a championship but they turned the whole franchise around. To compare a staff that's won one game to them is ludicrous.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 10:23 AM

QUOTE (Long Time Jet Fan @ Sep 14 2006, 11:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
First off, just because a coaching staff gets you a championship (and the Jets are still far from that) doesn't mean they are the best. You think Eubank was the best Jets coach ever because he won a championship? Sonny Werblin won that Super Bowl plain and simple. He spent the money to bring in players likes Namath and Snell. Eubank on the other hand was a cheap SOB and was primarily responsible for the Jets sucking for so long after the Super Bowl win. The Parcells era was by far the best staff the Jets have had. Just look at what those guys have accomplished as individuals. Yeah they didn't win a championship but they turned the whole franchise around. To compare a staff that's won one game to them is ludicrous.


No it isn't. Herman Edwards lead the Jets to a better results/record than Parcells. So by your logic Herman Edwards is better if not just as good as Parcells.

Bottom line, and I'll use Vin Diesel here: "It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile." Something to that effect anyway. Point is, if you didn't get a ring, then you're no better than the other 30 teams that failed to get that ring too. You lost. Plain and simple.

Parcells and his fellows didn't bring any rings. No Championships. Thus their time here is moot. They failed. This era, whether its one week in or not, has already started off with a win. They not only had a win but they looked pretty good. Thus, since the others are losers and this staff might actually have a shot at winning-- maybe not right now, but in the future-- then that's why they are better to me. Ok?
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 10:40 AM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Sep 14 2006, 08:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No it isn't. Herman Edwards lead the Jets to a better results/record than Parcells. So by your logic Herman Edwards is better if not just as good as Parcells.

Bottom line, and I'll use Vin Diesel here: "It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile." Something to that effect anyway. Point is, if you didn't get a ring, then you're no better than the other 30 teams that failed to get that ring too. You lost. Plain and simple.

Parcells and his fellows didn't bring any rings. No Championships. Thus their time here is moot. They failed. This era, whether its one week in or not, has already started off with a win. They not only had a win but they looked pretty good. Thus, since the others are losers and this staff might actually have a shot at winning-- maybe not right now, but in the future-- then that's why they are better to me. Ok?

That's hogwash. How does my logic possibly say Edwards is better than Parcells? I have no idea how you drew that conclusion. Edwards was set up by those that came before him. That's the only reason he had a decent record for a while. He and his regime left the team is worse shape than when they got here. We're talking about the best Jets staff, not the best coaching staff. There's no way you can say an unprovoen collection of coaches that have a 1-0 is best Jets staff ever. That makes absolutely no sense.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 12:04 PM

No - we've played one game so far thats why. Off the field so far they have been tremendous but it remains to be seen how they do on the field.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 12:59 PM

It's better than last year's. That's all I care about right now.
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