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MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) good
MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (23 September 2016 - 03:55 PM) updated roster. FB howsare released, TE bowman added to roster
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Is This The Best Jets Staff Ever? is this the best jets staff ever?

Poll: is this the best jets staff ever? (24 member(s) have cast votes)

is this the best jets staff ever?

  1. Yes (7 votes [29.17%])

    Percentage of vote: 29.17%

  2. No (17 votes [70.83%])

    Percentage of vote: 70.83%

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Posted 14 September 2006 - 12:42 AM

is this the best jets staff ever?

if you vote no who do u think is?

i think schott has this offense looking the best it has since 1998, out defense looked very good under sutton, westhoff is one of the bets sp teams coaches, mangini looks like a stud HC, MT is a master negotaior and capologist at GM, and TB is a great head scout. what do u guys think?
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 12:54 AM

no, maybe one day it will be great, but it doesn't even compare to 1998 - 99

Parcells
Belichick
Weis
Crennell
Mangini
Dan Henning (panthers OC)

possibly greatest staff ever
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 01:47 AM

I agree with DDS but I don't think Mangini is done bringing in coaches. He'll be looking to improve his staff more then likely but I do think it's a very good one as is right now and with time perhaps we can have a run like the Pats did. Or atleast be perennial playoff contenders.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 06:29 AM

Weeb Ewbank and Co. The staff that won the superbowl is the greatest ever. dance.gif
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 07:10 AM

No, that's a dumb question, we've played one team that will probably have a top 5 pick. For now, it's Weeb and his gang.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 07:40 AM

Isnt this a little premature after 1 game?
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 07:54 AM

Yeah I think it is a bit early to start talking best ever. They do look almost perfect but we are also coming off a few disappointing seasons so that adds to it.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 08:44 AM

Four people actually voted yes? hysterical.gif
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 09:20 AM

Dumb question, its been one game, a pretty good game, but still just one.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 09:38 AM

The Parcells era never produced a Championship. Under Mangini I think that'll change and when it does it's going to equal rings for the team.

The Parcells era never produced a Championship. Under Mangini I think that'll change and when it does it's going to equal rings for the team. So, since they'll... hopefully... produce a Championship for the Jets I voted yes. The offense looked great and high powered. As soon as we get a running game going which could be in a few weeks when the OLine gets more comfortable in eachother and the system, we're gonna be really good.

The thing you have to realize is Belichick wasn't anything special when he was here. Neither were any of the other coaches. They had that potential but in no way were they at their peak. As much as I hate the guy, Tom Brady really is the reason Belichick has been successful. It comes down to QB play and Tom had/has a huge chip on his shoulder. Probably about where he was drafted. None the less, Weis is also a genius, just look at ND. So, don't forget about those things.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 09:47 AM

QUOTE (DewayneDontSign @ Sep 14 2006, 02:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
no, maybe one day it will be great, but it doesn't even compare to 1998 - 99

Parcells
Belichick
Weis
Crennell
Mangini
Dan Henning (panthers OC)

possibly greatest staff ever


This staff also had what 4 first rounders, and still could not get a championship. Its more than just coaching. All the stars have to be aligned.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 09:57 AM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Sep 14 2006, 08:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The Parcells era never produced a Championship. Under Mangini I think that'll change and when it does it's going to equal rings for the team.

The Parcells era never produced a Championship. Under Mangini I think that'll change and when it does it's going to equal rings for the team. So, since they'll... hopefully... produce a Championship for the Jets I voted yes. The offense looked great and high powered. As soon as we get a running game going which could be in a few weeks when the OLine gets more comfortable in eachother and the system, we're gonna be really good.

The thing you have to realize is Belichick wasn't anything special when he was here. Neither were any of the other coaches. They had that potential but in no way were they at their peak. As much as I hate the guy, Tom Brady really is the reason Belichick has been successful. It comes down to QB play and Tom had/has a huge chip on his shoulder. Probably about where he was drafted. None the less, Weis is also a genius, just look at ND. So, don't forget about those things.

It's amazing how many people don't think. They win one game against a team that was horrible last year and you think they might bring the Jets a championship somewhere down the road so you vote them the best Jets coaching staff ever? Hey, although you may think so at the time, you're first lay more than likely won't be your best! beach.gif
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 10:05 AM

QUOTE (Long Time Jet Fan @ Sep 14 2006, 11:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's amazing how many people don't think. They win one game against a team that was horrible last year and you think they might bring the Jets a championship somewhere down the road so you vote them the best Jets coaching staff ever? Hey, although you may think so at the time, you're first lay more than likely won't be your best! beach.gif


Thing is, there hasn't been a championship here in 37 years dude. How can you say we had the best we possibly could when they didn't produce anything? Not only that, but opinions are opinions and believe it or not, mine are very well thought out. I stated the reasons for believing the way I did. This team doesn't look anything like they were supposed to. The offense was one of the best in the league. In their first season, I think we might have the best staff yet. I like what I see from the offense, obviously not the running game, but it's very versatile. The defense needs to be tweaked just a little bit but for the most part they're pretty good.

Maybe it's hype from a win that makes me feel this way. If Mangini can win with supposed no bodies then I think he'll be able to really do some damage with time and personelle. None the less, I've thought about this at length. And I think that our coaching staff now, although maybe not better RIGHT NOW, will be because they'll get us a championship. Something all the others have failed to do since Weeb.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 10:06 AM

QUOTE (bleedsgreen @ Sep 14 2006, 11:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This staff also had what 4 first rounders, and still could not get a championship. Its more than just coaching. All the stars have to be aligned.


the first 4 rounders was the al groh era, the Parcells staff took a team that was 1-15, one of the worst teams in NFL history and made them 9-7 in their first year and an AFC Championship in their second. It was coaching at its finest.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 10:14 AM

QUOTE (DewayneDontSign @ Sep 14 2006, 01:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
no, maybe one day it will be great, but it doesn't even compare to 1998 - 99

Parcells
Belichick
Weis
Crennell
Mangini
Dan Henning (panthers OC)

possibly greatest staff ever


Other than the Walsh West Coast era, where can you find a staff that turned into 3 NFL head coaches, 1 NCAA coach (and we ain't talking East Minnesota State College here), and Henning will probably be a Head Coach as well. Also, while they didn't win a ring together, combined they're 5 of six in Super Bowl appearances.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 10:16 AM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Sep 14 2006, 08:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thing is, there hasn't been a championship here in 37 years dude. How can you say we had the best we possibly could when they didn't produce anything? Not only that, but opinions are opinions and believe it or not, mine are very well thought out. I stated the reasons for believing the way I did. This team doesn't look anything like they were supposed to. The offense was one of the best in the league. In their first season, I think we might have the best staff yet. I like what I see from the offense, obviously not the running game, but it's very versatile. The defense needs to be tweaked just a little bit but for the most part they're pretty good.

Maybe it's hype from a win that makes me feel this way. If Mangini can win with supposed no bodies then I think he'll be able to really do some damage with time and personelle. None the less, I've thought about this at length. And I think that our coaching staff now, although maybe not better RIGHT NOW, will be because they'll get us a championship. Something all the others have failed to do since Weeb.

First off, just because a coaching staff gets you a championship (and the Jets are still far from that) doesn't mean they are the best. You think Eubank was the best Jets coach ever because he won a championship? Sonny Werblin won that Super Bowl plain and simple. He spent the money to bring in players likes Namath and Snell. Eubank on the other hand was a cheap SOB and was primarily responsible for the Jets sucking for so long after the Super Bowl win. The Parcells era was by far the best staff the Jets have had. Just look at what those guys have accomplished as individuals. Yeah they didn't win a championship but they turned the whole franchise around. To compare a staff that's won one game to them is ludicrous.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 10:23 AM

QUOTE (Long Time Jet Fan @ Sep 14 2006, 11:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
First off, just because a coaching staff gets you a championship (and the Jets are still far from that) doesn't mean they are the best. You think Eubank was the best Jets coach ever because he won a championship? Sonny Werblin won that Super Bowl plain and simple. He spent the money to bring in players likes Namath and Snell. Eubank on the other hand was a cheap SOB and was primarily responsible for the Jets sucking for so long after the Super Bowl win. The Parcells era was by far the best staff the Jets have had. Just look at what those guys have accomplished as individuals. Yeah they didn't win a championship but they turned the whole franchise around. To compare a staff that's won one game to them is ludicrous.


No it isn't. Herman Edwards lead the Jets to a better results/record than Parcells. So by your logic Herman Edwards is better if not just as good as Parcells.

Bottom line, and I'll use Vin Diesel here: "It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile." Something to that effect anyway. Point is, if you didn't get a ring, then you're no better than the other 30 teams that failed to get that ring too. You lost. Plain and simple.

Parcells and his fellows didn't bring any rings. No Championships. Thus their time here is moot. They failed. This era, whether its one week in or not, has already started off with a win. They not only had a win but they looked pretty good. Thus, since the others are losers and this staff might actually have a shot at winning-- maybe not right now, but in the future-- then that's why they are better to me. Ok?
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 10:40 AM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Sep 14 2006, 08:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No it isn't. Herman Edwards lead the Jets to a better results/record than Parcells. So by your logic Herman Edwards is better if not just as good as Parcells.

Bottom line, and I'll use Vin Diesel here: "It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile." Something to that effect anyway. Point is, if you didn't get a ring, then you're no better than the other 30 teams that failed to get that ring too. You lost. Plain and simple.

Parcells and his fellows didn't bring any rings. No Championships. Thus their time here is moot. They failed. This era, whether its one week in or not, has already started off with a win. They not only had a win but they looked pretty good. Thus, since the others are losers and this staff might actually have a shot at winning-- maybe not right now, but in the future-- then that's why they are better to me. Ok?

That's hogwash. How does my logic possibly say Edwards is better than Parcells? I have no idea how you drew that conclusion. Edwards was set up by those that came before him. That's the only reason he had a decent record for a while. He and his regime left the team is worse shape than when they got here. We're talking about the best Jets staff, not the best coaching staff. There's no way you can say an unprovoen collection of coaches that have a 1-0 is best Jets staff ever. That makes absolutely no sense.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 12:04 PM

No - we've played one game so far thats why. Off the field so far they have been tremendous but it remains to be seen how they do on the field.
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 12:59 PM

It's better than last year's. That's all I care about right now.
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