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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 03 February 2007 - 10:40 AM

Pats Kraft future plan: Owner promises to spend to salary cap

By John Tomase
Boston Herald Sports Writer
Saturday, February 3, 2007 - Updated: 02 0 AM EST

MIAMI - Patriots owner Robert Kraft yesterday guaranteed the team will spend to the salary cap in an effort to improve a squad that fell one minute short of the Super Bowl.

“We’re always going to spend to and over the cap,” Kraft said yesterday at the Super Bowl following a press conference by commissioner Roger Goodell. “We’re not one of those teams that puts the money in our pockets. We’re committed to spending.”

The Patriots began the 2006 season with roughly $10 million in cap space, the result of failed contract negotiations with Ty Law and Deion Branch. When those players ended up elsewhere, the Pats went to Plan B, spreading their money around to Richard Seymour , Dan Koppen and others.

The result was a club that may have lacked reinforcements, but at the same time had positioned itself to make a run in 2007. The Patriots could have as much as $30 million in salary cap space to play with in free agency, giving them a chance to chase an impact player like Ravens linebacker Adalius Thomas.

“In terms of spending, you have to look where we are at the end of the season, not the beginning,” Kraft said. “With all due respect to my friends in the media and the fans, they don’t understand the intricacies of the cap. You look where we were at the end of the year and where we’ll be next year, and it will be the same thing.

“We’re different than some teams. We’re not just planning for this year. We’re trying to be good for a number of years. Our management team has shown over the last four to five years that wise planning has allowed us to stay in the hunt.”

When Kraft looks back at 2006, he sees much to like. The Patriots finished 12-4, the third-highest victory total in franchise history. They won a playoff game for the fourth straight season, something no other team can claim in that span. And though they fell short of the Super Bowl, it wasn’t by much.

“Our performance this year, with the challenges we faced, was one of the best since we’ve owned the team,” he said. “Believe me, no one’s more disappointed than I that we’re not playing in this game. We had our shot, but if you think back over the year, with the injuries we had, the field, and everything that went on and we ended up 14-5, I mean, man. That’s a pretty good accomplishment.”

Kraft has plenty of reasons for optimism. In addition to the salary cap space, the Patriots also own two first-round picks in the 2007 draft and 12 picks total, all of which can be used to complement a veteran core built around quarterback Tom Brady and an outstanding defensive line.

“I’m very excited about the future of this team,” Kraft said. “We’re in a pretty good position with the salary cap. We have two picks in the bottom of the first round, which is really one of the best strategic points in terms of value.

“The first eight or 10 picks you have to pay so much, it’s like signing an unrestricted veteran player who has proven himself. Unless the player is a great player, that can affect how you manage your cap.”

In the end, Kraft said, his management team led by head coach Bill Belichick and personnel man Scott Pioli will continue doing everything it can to keep the Patriots in contention, and that includes spending.

“We want to make sure our fans understand we have a fixed budget,” he said. “Sometimes we make decisions that people can’t relate to as fans. Believe me, I understand that. I can assure our fan base that every decision we make is to put us in the best position to win games.

“With our cap position, draft situation, and the group of people we have running things, I’m excited about next year. We have a tougher schedule, but that’s part of the privilege of being successful. I wouldn’t want to have it any other way.” iagree.gif
(and I believe we will spend wisely too)
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Posted 03 February 2007 - 10:54 AM

We should spend too, we need to get a #1 CB badly, if we dont we wont make the playoffs next year. We need to sign either Samuels or Clements..
We also need to get a DE. Plus a pass rushing specialist. Bigger d-line. We also need a good redzone target since we really dont have a good one. I would say we should sign Daniel Graham, him and Baker would make a very respectable TE duo...
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Posted 03 February 2007 - 12:39 PM

I don't know about Daniel Graham. I don't like the idea of picking up the patriots leftovers. We should gain our own identity.


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Posted 03 February 2007 - 01:12 PM

Graham is a good player though, he has speed and hands to stretch the field from the TE postion, and is physical and a good blocker, he would be a good addition for our team.
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Posted 03 February 2007 - 03:07 PM

Every team is going to spend this offseason in FA due to the extra cap space afforded to each team by the new CBA. There aren't going to be many cap casualties and June 1st cuts because of the new cap.
If Baker where utilized more and our OLine afforded Chad a little more time then he would be a top redzone target so I don't think TE needs to be addressed except for perhaps bringing in a backup. CB should definitely be targeted through FA as drafting one would mean the rookie would have to adjust to the rigours of the NFL and would in most cases not be able to contribute early on. Guard and RT should also be looked to be addressed when FA begins.
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Posted 03 February 2007 - 04:13 PM

QUOTE (Smedsthejet @ Feb 3 2007, 03:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Every team is going to spend this offseason in FA due to the extra cap space afforded to each team by the new CBA. There aren't going to be many cap casualties and June 1st cuts because of the new cap.
If Baker where utilized more and our OLine afforded Chad a little more time then he would be a top redzone target so I don't think TE needs to be addressed except for perhaps bringing in a backup. CB should definitely be targeted through FA as drafting one would mean the rookie would have to adjust to the rigours of the NFL and would in most cases not be able to contribute early on. Guard and RT should also be looked to be addressed when FA begins.

Im just saying Graham, because Graham is a amazing blocker too. It would be a advantage to us to have 2 good TEs that both can catch and block. Ryans can block, but he isnt a good recieving threat. I agree though, CB has to be our #1 priority in the FA, because there is 2 #1 CBs in Clements and Samuel, and drafting one wouldnt be good because there isnt alot of depth in the draft there. I think they should sign Dielman or Steinbach for OG. Both are good guards and are young.
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Posted 03 February 2007 - 04:17 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Feb 3 2007, 09:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Im just saying Graham, because Graham is a amazing blocker too. It would be a advantage to us to have 2 good TEs that both can catch and block. Ryans can block, but he isnt a good recieving threat. I agree though, CB has to be our #1 priority in the FA, because there is 2 #1 CBs in Clements and Samuel, and drafting one wouldnt be good because there isnt alot of depth in the draft there. I think they should sign Dielman or Steinbach for OG. Both are good guards and are young.


Is Dielman a RFA or UFA?
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Posted 03 February 2007 - 04:22 PM

UFA.
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Posted 03 February 2007 - 04:31 PM

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“We’re not one of those teams that puts the money in our pockets. We’re committed to spending.”


Yea right!... shut up b!tch! Since when?!. This sounds like Patriots spewage to me. A team tighter then fort knox is giving the media little tidbits like this? F-OFF!

Their probably saying these things so other teams like the Bills,Jets and Phins catch wind of it and think we have to sell the farm because the Pats are "telling" people they are going to sell theirs.

Give them credit for trying to F around but I'm not buying that for 1 second

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Posted 03 February 2007 - 04:45 PM

thats a bunch of lies the pats are to cheap
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