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HarlemHxC814 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:44 PM) Throw in Ivory/Powell or a pick
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ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:50 PM) Well that definitely opens the door for CJ Spiller to the JETS now that the Jills got Shady
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:12 AM) Spiller is a joke. 99 % of the time he gets tackled for a loss or a 1 or 2 yard gain maximum. He breaks a run here and there. he had one good year in his whole career. their is a reason he is a backup and not the starter. I suggest you guys that believe Spiller has anything to offer go through the play by play game logs. I did and he is horrendous.
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:14 AM) Spiller cannot break a tackle period. I broke down last years game logs of his runs in a thread last year. He isn't even a pass catching rb. Fred Jackson catches most of the running back passes.
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:20 AM) Unless Spiller comes tremendously cheap no thank you. Wouldn't pay more than a one year deal worth 1 million at most. All he has is speed. Not even on Sproles level. His stats are inflated. For instance he has 10 runs in a game and 9 of them are losses are or 1-2 yard runs. Then he breaks one on the outside for 40-70 yards. Not reliable at all. Even when he break one he is guaranteed a td
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:21 AM) Even in his 1200 yard rushing year he only had 6 tds rushing and 2 receiving
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:23 AM) Spiller is only valuable as a special teams player. Period By year 2010 ) tds rshng 1 rcvng 283 yards rshng
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:31 AM) meant 0 tds rushing in 2010, 2011 4 tds 561 yards rushing 2tds receiving, 2012 6tds 1244 rushing 2 tds receiving, 2013 2tds 933 yards rushing 0tds receiving, 2014 0tds 300 yards rushing 1td receiving.
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:41 AM) His stats look decent on paper but if you actually go through the game logs of his career like I did his stats are extremely inflated. For instance one game last year he had 10 attempts for 8 yards another 4 attempts for -4 yards, another 6 attempts for 19 yards, another 10 attempts for 25 yards.Another game he had 12 games for 69 yards but 47 of it was on one play. Point is he sucks as a running back. Who wants a rb that gets stopped 99% of the time and breaks one play fir a long run. We need reliable backs not a slim chance of him breaking one
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HarlemHxC814 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:10 AM) Well in all fairness, when I think about the Jets I do think about number two
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Chaos Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:36 AM) ppl are going to get paid this offseason.
Chaos Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:36 AM) so many teams have space
Chaos Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:39 AM) eagles have 48M in cap space. Chip is going to go HAM this offseason.
Chaos Icon : (04 March 2015 - 12:35 PM) @RapSheet: The #Bills have traded for Matt Cassel, the team announced.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 12:43 PM) rex is gearing up his team
Jetsfan115 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 12:43 PM) a QB that won't turn it over. 2 stud Rbs for ground and pound and will now start building his defense
azjetfan Icon : (04 March 2015 - 01:49 PM) McCoys agent said the trade is not final and he hinted that he may not be willing to play there.
Chaos Icon : (04 March 2015 - 04:41 PM) @KristianRDyer: Source: If Marcus Mariota is at No. 6, Eagles will make trade with #Jets http://www.metro.us/...-mCQODxZ1xjBVA/ … via @metronewyork #NYJets
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Jetsfan115 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:07 PM) I wouldn't mind trading down personally
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azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 12:31 PM) What does his contract look like? Offer a 7th conditional 6th if we do something if the $$s are right.
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 12:37 PM) He is almost due 9.6 million this year and has 2 years left. He is defiantly better than Harvin although a little older @ 30
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Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:56 PM) i guess davis takes the MLB spot then pace on one side. who is on the other? barnes
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 12:44 PM

OK what do u guys think. I need a stud WR so I offered (to the last place team who needs a RB badly)

D.davis and M.clayton

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C.johnson and c.martin


His staring RBs are martin and bennet (ouch I know) and he doesn’t even have a decent back-up option he does however have both mannings. If he trades me for this then tardes a manning for another stud RB he’d be set. He has some good WRs so tahts not a concern. I need a WR badly and I still have tiki, k.jones and ship. So I figue I can start tiki and jones and still have 2 decent back-ups in ship and martin.

What do u guys think?
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 01:38 PM

good deal both ways.. thumbup.gif
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 01:56 PM

You'd get the best of the deal, but at least he'd have a back with some potential instead of two guys who can't combine for ten points.
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 02:07 PM

Bennet and martin combined have less total points then d.davis and davis already had his bye week. Bennet isn’t even the starter in minn. Anymore. he needs a back badly and he has other WRs plus getting clayton isn’t a bad option to start either. Our league scores high and weirdly. Last year d.davis was the 3rd best back behind LT (1) and westbrook (2). I’m only trading him cause after this week k.jones will be able to take off againss bad defenses.
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 03:37 PM

offer that to him.i like johnson alot
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 05:38 PM

OMG the guy I offered accepted the dumbest trade ever. I hope the commish bounces it back but my league is crooked, one of the commish is on the good side of the deal and the other might get brought off to let it through. He accepted to take willie parker straight up for eli manning.
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QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Oct 5 2005, 05:13 PM)
OMG the guy I offered accepted the dumbest trade ever. I hope the commish bounces it back but my league is crooked, one of the commish is on the good side of the deal and the other might get brought off to let it through. He accepted to take willie parker straight up for eli manning.


Willie Parker might not be starting in the next couple weeks as Bettis and Staley are both going to be back. There were rumors last week that Staley would get the start, so his value is dropping quite a bit.

And, honestly, don't you think you're a little bit predjudiced against all things-Giant? I know you have a lot of dumb Giant fans around, but Eli is scoring pretty well and has a lot of weapons. Ah, I guess I'm the same way with the Chiefs.
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Posted 06 October 2005 - 09:59 AM

QUOTE (a1elbow @ Oct 5 2005, 08:05 PM)
Willie Parker might not be starting in the next couple weeks as Bettis and Staley are both going to be back.  There were rumors last week that Staley would get the start, so his value is dropping quite a bit.

And, honestly, don't you think you're a little bit predjudiced against all things-Giant?  I know you have a lot of dumb Giant fans around, but Eli is scoring pretty well and has a lot of weapons.  Ah, I guess I'm the same way with the Chiefs.


I know eli is. Maybe u read my post wrong. I said he was dumb for giving up eli and only getting parker in return. I’m giving eli his props as a fantasy player only. Face it he hasn’t faced a real defense but he really wont have to all year. I know philly but besides them who else? Dallas isn’t playing well on defense. The skins isn’t what it was last year sooo… oh and he rejected the davis trade. That’s pure dumbness. He needs a RB so he tardes a top 5 fantasy guy right now at QB (most important) for a soon to be back-up RB. That’s gonna blow up in his face
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QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Oct 6 2005, 09:34 AM)
I know eli is. Maybe u read my post wrong. I said he was dumb for giving up eli and only getting parker in return. I’m giving eli his props as a fantasy player only. Face it he hasn’t faced a real defense but he really wont have to all year. I know philly but besides them who else? Dallas isn’t playing well on defense. The skins isn’t what it was last year sooo… oh and he rejected the davis trade. That’s pure dumbness. He needs a RB so he tardes a top 5 fantasy guy right now at QB (most important) for a soon to be back-up RB. That’s gonna blow up in his face


Yeah, I thought you meant the other way, with the guy getting Eli being screwed. How long have you been in that league? I'd be surprised if an experienced FFL operatot allowed a trade like that to go through, or at least one who was playing with friends.

THe worst trade I've seen in my league just went through, it was:

Vick, Stephen Davis, and Tory Holt for Lamont Jordan. Jordan was maybe worth Holt on his own, and I think Holt has better value (in that league receivers who get long TDs score as well as #2RBs except Moss and Owens who almost score as well as #1s). So he got 1)a great receiver, 2)a starting RB who gets TDs, and 3)a QB with upside as a #2 and only gave up an underachieving RB in exchange. But our commish checked with the other owner and tried to talk to him out of it.

Well, then the guy offered me A.Green, Vick, and Bruce for McGahee and Muhammud. I guess he thinks he can get on a role with getting trades that are steals.
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Posted 07 October 2005 - 10:22 AM

Actually the guy that traded eli proposed the trade I found out. they let it pass cause we have a 2 headed commish and both of the commishes passed trades that favored the other guy. Next year I’m making sure we install a league wide vote on trades. this is our 2nd year doing it so there are still bugs in the system. U can’t blame people for wanthing a competitive advantage
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QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Oct 7 2005, 09:57 AM)
Actually the guy that traded eli proposed the trade I found out. they let it pass cause we have a 2 headed commish and both of the commishes passed trades that favored the other guy. Next year I’m making sure we install a league wide vote on trades. this is our 2nd year doing it so there are still bugs in the system. U can’t blame people for wanthing a competitive advantage


Yeah, but a commish should choose fairness more than anything. When I got the FA going in our league I waited two days before I used it, just to make sure I wasn't using it before everyone knew.
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Posted 07 October 2005 - 04:28 PM

I just made a trade. I traded barber and clayton for plax and taylor.

I figured I needed a stud WR and the gianst crappy defense leads to a lot of throwing. Think about it the worst defenses usually means good QBs for fantasy, green and manning of past years etc. I figure plax will continue to be eli’s go to guy for a while so barbers production will go down. Plus they use Jacobs on goaline. He took 2 TDs from barber already
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Posted 07 October 2005 - 06:26 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Oct 5 2005, 06:13 PM)
OMG the guy I offered accepted the dumbest trade ever. I hope the commish bounces it back but my league is crooked, one of the commish is on the good side of the deal and the other might get brought off to let it through. He accepted to take willie parker straight up for eli manning.


I would rather Parker over Eli, Cowher says Parker isn't losing the starting job, and all the Steelers do is run. Eli was a free agent in my league until this week, and QB's are easier to come by then starting RB's. He was desperate for a RB, I think it was a fair trade.
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QUOTE (TheUltimate @ Oct 7 2005, 06:01 PM)
I would rather Parker over Eli,  Cowher says Parker isn't losing the starting job, and all the Steelers do is run.  Eli was a free agent in my league until this week, and QB's are easier to come by then starting RB's.  He was desperate for a RB, I think it was a fair trade.


I think Parker keeping his job is like the Vikings saying that Tice's job is safe. Staley and Bettis will get at least some carries, and it should be enough to keep Parker from being anything better than a #2 or (more likely in my opinon) #3 fantasy back. And then he might just lose it if he doesn't play well for a game or goes down. So to me, Parker has a lot of downside and Eli has a lot of upside as a guy on the rise.

If Parker gets less than twenty carries a game (Staley gets some), and Bettis only gets goal line carries (like last season), he loses a lot of value. You can pretty much forget bonus points for reaching a certain number of carries or yards (usually 20 and 100, respectfully) and won't get many TDs. I wouldn't be surprised if he started getting cut in a lot of leagues in the coming weeks.
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Posted 07 October 2005 - 06:40 PM

QUOTE (a1elbow @ Oct 7 2005, 07:10 PM)
I think Parker keeping his job is like the Vikings saying that Tice's job is safe.  Staley and Bettis will get at least some carries, and it should be enough to keep Parker from being anything better than a #2 or (more likely in my opinon) #3 fantasy back.  And then he might just lose it if he doesn't play well for a game or goes down.  So to me, Parker has a lot of downside and Eli has a lot of upside as a guy on the rise.

If Parker gets less than twenty carries a game (Staley gets some), and Bettis only gets goal line carries (like last season), he loses a lot of value.  You can pretty much forget bonus points for reaching a certain number of carries or yards (usually 20 and 100, respectfully) and won't get many TDs.  I wouldn't be surprised if he started getting cut in a lot of leagues in the coming weeks.


I got a question for you, I got Staley on 1 of my teams, I have him on the bench, do you think he is worth keeping him or should I just drop him? Cause I heard he ain't even gonna be on the roster this week, cause they have Parker, Bettis and that Haynes guy. I don't know what is going on with Staley. Should I just keep him and hope that Parker gets benched, but is he still worth it, cause Bettis will steal all his TDs anyway.
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Posted 07 October 2005 - 06:49 PM

QUOTE (TheUltimate @ Oct 7 2005, 06:15 PM)
I got a question for you, I got Staley on 1 of my teams, I have him on the bench, do you think he is worth keeping him or should I just drop him?  Cause I heard he ain't even gonna be on the roster this week, cause they have Parker, Bettis and that Haynes guy.  I don't know what is going on with Staley.  Should I just keep him and hope that Parker gets benched, but is he still worth it, cause Bettis will steal all his TDs anyway.


It depends on who is out there in the FA market. In my league, if I had Staley, I would keep him right now because there isn't anything out there. But I don't think any Steeler back can be trusted right now, or at least after this week, with so many proven players in the mix that all want some playing time. Parker probably has one more week as a real starter and then it may become a real RB-by-commitee scenario with none of them having a lot of value...

as usual, I didn't really answer the question. I would drop him, but only if you actually get something in return.
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