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santana Icon : (16 August 2014 - 11:55 PM) Gotta fix that
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:35 PM) Is anyone else as concerned as I am about the secondary?
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:36 PM) I know it's preseason and all but even with Milliner in on the first game we gave up a TD on the first drive to the Colts
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:37 PM) Patterson looked like me out there and Wilson got torched last night
Smedsthejet Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:26 PM) Concerned about the right side of the OLine too - too many penalties and Giacomini wasn't that much better than against the Colts when he was poor
SackExchange71 Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:31 PM) Imo i still think howard is better then giacomini..Wish they never let him walk.Giacomini had alot of flags in seattle also
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:33 AM) Howard recieved a huge contract in Oakland. Way over his actual value.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 10:08 AM) So did we make a trade for a CB yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:51 PM) Milliner did suffer a high ankle sprain, that sucks. could linger all year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:52 PM) I think Patterson sucked vs the Colts because he was injured, which he always is.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
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azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 04:50 PM

This guy is a monster! I really wish we had him. He is a huge space eater, I m watching the Colts Ravens game and he made a nice tackle at the line. That guy just doesnt move, imagen him being our NT, that would be sick!
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 04:55 PM

him and wilfork on the pats are really good nts. i dont think there is one of them to go after in the draft.
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 05:08 PM

Ngata is not their NT, Kelly Gregg is. When the Ravens go into a 3-4 base Ngata moves out to DE.
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 05:15 PM

Meanwhile we draft a 280 pound LT
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 05:20 PM

QUOTE (DewayneDontSign @ Jan 13 2007, 02:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ngata is not their NT, Kelly Gregg is. When the Ravens go into a 3-4 base Ngata moves out to DE.


exactly. ngata is more of a d-rob/ 3 technique tackle. why woudl we draft one of those? espicially wehn we had jones or cavka as our starting LT and a top prospect is on the board
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 05:45 PM

QUOTE (EvanstonJet @ Jan 13 2007, 05:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Meanwhile we draft a 280 pound LT

Shouldn't you be out on a ledge somewhere?
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 05:52 PM

Ngata is not like Robertson, he is a natural NT. He is a space eater, just a athletic one. He isnt a guy that gets sacks, he is a guy that just eats up double teams and takes people off the LBs. Plus they dont play a real 3-4, they just have Suggs stand up then say its a 3-4, its a joker one.
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 05:55 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 13 2007, 03:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ngata is not like Robertson, he is a natural NT. He is a space eater, just a athletic one. He isnt a guy that gets sacks, he is a guy that just eats up double teams and takes people off the LBs. Plus they dont play a real 3-4, they just have Suggs stand up then say its a 3-4, its a joker one.

its still a real 3-4. same way we do with bryan thomas. he is a joker (whic comes for the term jokers are a wild card,) cause he's a wild card on defense. he can line up anywhere
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 05:56 PM

QUOTE (EvanstonJet @ Jan 13 2007, 05:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Meanwhile we draft a 280 pound LT

if it werent for ferguson i bet u either chad would be injured and we wouldnt make the playoffs or we wouldnt had made the playoffs and chad wouldnt be comeback player of the year, btw as long as something unexpectedly gay doesnt happen im gonna be a proud owner of a jersey of that 280 pound LT
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 05:57 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Jan 13 2007, 06:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
its still a real 3-4. same way we do with bryan thomas. he is a joker (whic comes for the term jokers are a wild card,) cause he's a wild card on defense. he can line up anywhere

True. They are still a 46 defense.
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 06:15 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 13 2007, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
True. They are still a 46 defense.


no there not. they scrapped that. there a base 4-3 defense now
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 06:17 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Jan 13 2007, 06:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
no there not. they scrapped that. there a base 4-3 defense now

either way its not a 3-4.
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 06:25 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 13 2007, 06:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
either way its not a 3-4.


but they play a lot of 3-4 during the game
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 06:36 PM

its like us. were a 3-4 base but use alot of 4-3. espicially on 3rd and long i've noticed. most teams use a hybrid. ravens are a base 4-3 right now
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 06:39 PM

Just saying, when they do, do that "Joker" 3-4, they dont line Ngata at DE, he is really playing at the DT postion were he normally would be, and Suggs would be standing were he would normaly be at. We did that defense in 2004, we had John Abraham stand up.
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 07:49 PM

QUOTE (EvanstonJet @ Jan 13 2007, 06:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Meanwhile we draft a 280 pound LT


Too bad that has nothing to do with what we are talking about. Tackles can and should be lighter because they go up against defensive ends, not defensive tackles. Defensive ends are usually lighter and faster and therefor you need athletic tackles, especially your blindside tackle. But its ok, you know nothing about football, so all we can do here is teach you.
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 08:00 PM

Ferguson will weigh around 320 by training camp. He said that he is going to rest for a week and get away from football then he is going back to work and going a weight program to gain weight and strength.
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 08:16 PM

QUOTE (HartAttack @ Jan 13 2007, 05:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Too bad that has nothing to do with what we are talking about. Tackles can and should be lighter because they go up against defensive ends, not defensive tackles. Defensive ends are usually lighter and faster and therefor you need athletic tackles, especially your blindside tackle. But its ok, you know nothing about football, so all we can do here is teach you.


exactly the bets tackles are usually smaller athletic guys cause Des are smller and athletic. here are the numbers

some of teh best DEs

Freeny 268lbs
mathis 245lbs
kearse 265
abraham 256
peppers 283
burgess 260
schobel 262
taylor 255
van den bosch 278
strahan 255


now some of the best LTs
Roaf 320
Jones 308
ogden 345




brick is 312
Get it done MT
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Posted 14 January 2007 - 04:05 PM

they're a hybrid, they switch between 4-3 and 3-4 by using terrell suggs as a down lineman or linebacker and no way they are a 4-6......ed reed plays way out in center field and he would be their 8th man in the box
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