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ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
santana Icon : (24 April 2015 - 11:32 PM) TEH WIZ
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:57 AM) Teh Suarez
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:00 AM) Until next time fellas!
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:19 PM) Helloooooooooo
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:19 PM) Bueller
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:33 PM) Manish says the Jets should trade down and draft Andrus Peat round 1
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 04:39 PM) Even an idiot can say something that's right every now and then
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Posted 08 April 2005 - 07:51 AM

I CAN'T BELIEVE IT.BUT HERE IT IS:
http://www.disinfota.../satan4pres.htm
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Posted 08 April 2005 - 10:39 AM

Some ideas are OK, just change the name.....
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Posted 08 April 2005 - 03:05 PM

Yea, smaller government and no berocracy(sp?). Sounds like a libratarian to me. The Libritarian movement is beggining people you heard it here first, that party will make noise soon, first in the Senate, then maybe replace the democrats (since no one votes for them anyway! lol) (that's not a rip on Democrats since I have alot of respect for the them, that was kind of a friendly joke).
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Posted 08 April 2005 - 05:02 PM

He's got my vote
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Posted 08 April 2005 - 11:37 PM

QUOTE (HermIsMyHero @ Apr 8 2005, 02:40 PM)
Yea, smaller government and no berocracy(sp?). Sounds like a libratarian to me. The Libritarian movement is beggining people you heard it here first, that party will make noise soon, first in the Senate, then maybe replace the democrats (since no one votes for them anyway! lol) (that's not a rip on Democrats since I have alot of respect for the them, that was kind of a friendly joke).


Bah, the Libertarians are just old school republicans. No third party will ever emerge for more than a few years in America. The Democrats* and Republicans know it is in their best intrests to keep it a two horse race and will continue to block out competition, joining ranks if that is what it takes.


*Well, if the Dems get any more inept maybe one could, but it would likely lean further left than libertarians do.
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Posted 08 April 2005 - 11:49 PM

the bureaucracy is who makes decisions on that kind of stuff, and they're definitly not going to eliminate themselves, but i agree the gov't should be less top heavy

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Posted 09 April 2005 - 03:01 PM

Well two things:

A.) I know that the three party system is inheritly unfair to one of the candidates.

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B.) I feel that if the Democrates where to fall into obscurity then the only possible outcome would be the Republican party splitting into two parties, one being the Libratatian party (since these people tend to be more pro-choice and generally more to the left then the Republican party). Why would an even further left party develope in a country where left ideas have become obscure? This probably wont happen but that's what I think would happen if it did.
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Posted 09 April 2005 - 03:13 PM

Because left ideas haven't become obscure. I don't know why you would say that. I know Fox news would like people to believe that 90% of the country is Conservative, but it simply isn't true. Also, if the Democratic party died off something would have to replace it. The Libretarian party wouldn't attract the people that originaly made up the Deomcratic party, especially not the very left leaning members. Even if the Libretarian party became strong enough to be a true Third Party, there would still be a need for a leftist party because there are still plenty of people that lean that way.

ANd I didn't mean farther left than Dems. Farther left than Libertarians, who are not leftist.
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Posted 09 April 2005 - 03:36 PM

Well I have alot of respect for Democrats so dont think that I am biased here. I was giving a hypothetical situation. Also what I think would happen given such a situation. Also this has nothing to do with Fox News. I'm sure CNN helps you sleep at night, which is fine, but I prefer not to watch or rely on biased news sources for my news. I was making my obscure comment based on the fact that the majority in the senate and the presidency are all Republican. This is not me attacking Democrates, this is me explaining what I said and why I said it. But I don't believe any of it will happen.
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Posted 09 April 2005 - 04:32 PM

I don't bother getting my news anymore. 90% is spin, no matter the source. Objective Journalism fell by the way side decades before most people here were born. I'm far too cynical for the 24 hour news stations anyway.

I don't think a lot of the Republicans in charge are very Republican though. They don't seem to worry about keeping government small and being smart about budgeting and fiscaly conservative. We are in a weird starge where one party is shifting around and forcing a lot of other people to change too, so while I hope things get better than what they are right now, I don't have the foresight to guess at where everything is leading.
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Posted 09 April 2005 - 06:19 PM

Good point. No child left behind is a perfect example of this. It's the least conservative piece of legislation I've ever seen. It makes gov't too big. I feel like Bush did it to shut people up and make it seem like he's actually doing something. He's also spending way too much. I'd like to see more vouchers issued. And I'd like for Bush to focus on just a few issues and not every one. Anyone else notice how ever since the Iraqi elections no one is talking about Iraq? He's done such a good job there (IMO) and needs to focus on what he is good at, instead of NCLB and things like the Terry Schiavo controversy.
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Posted 09 April 2005 - 06:37 PM

The Terry Schiavo thing drove me crazy. Whatever your personal opinons on the matter (not "you" your, a general your) it was really unfair to expect any Judge to take away his power to pull the plug. It is what is in law. And now people are saying the Judges are overstepping their power by doing it. I think it is pretty clear that a lot of the radical right wing conservatives are trying to make the judical system look bad so they can try and get things more in their favor on Abortion and Gay Rights.

And I agree about Iraq coverage, it has gotten to be a lot like the media's coverage of Israel and the Paestinans ("People got blown up today, that is all). There is so little real information about what is happening in either place that it I don't think a casual American could make an informed opinon on the issues.
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Posted 09 April 2005 - 07:52 PM

Yea and the News can tell people what ever they want and not too many people will question it. Obviously we saw the whole Dan Rather thing unfold and he made himself look silly in front of the whole country (maybe even the world, I wouldn't know that however). My point is take everything you read and hear and see (for even footage can be misleading) with a grain of salt because you don't know what is really the truth and what is a manipulation to get you to think or feel a certain way. Things may be true or false, you don't know, so take it with a grain of salt.
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Posted 09 April 2005 - 10:01 PM

Hey, I'm a democrat Hermismyhero. George Bush is an *beep*! He goes into iraq just to finish up an already finished job. He did nothing in the Air National Guard other than run away to Alabama to get drunk. His wife Laura was a librarian when they married and after their marriage he announced he doesn't like to read. He vactioned like 47% of the tme in office before 9/11. Speaking of 9/11 and reading, he had documents saying all about it before 9/11, but he never read them. What an ass.
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Posted 10 April 2005 - 02:15 AM

Yeah... I'm not going to argue with you, but about 50% of that which you just said came from a movie called "Farenhiet 9/11." That movie was a joke. My response is basically don't believe everything that you see/read/hear on TV/the newspaper/movies/radio.
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Posted 10 April 2005 - 06:54 AM

Well his own staff said he showed up 8 times at the Air National Guard, but they made that sound like a record. He flew crappy F-105s there, those were terrible even back then. But if we can't belive what we hear on the T.V or radio, read it in the books or newspaper, watch a documentary about it, what can we believe?
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Posted 15 April 2005 - 04:16 AM

QUOTE (HermIsMyHero @ Apr 10 2005, 02:50 AM)
Yeah... I'm not going to argue with you, but about 50% of that which you just said came from a movie called "Farenhiet 9/11." That movie was a joke. My response is basically don't believe everything that you see/read/hear on TV/the newspaper/movies/radio.



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Well his own staff said he showed up 8 times at the Air National Guard, but they made that sound like a record. He flew crappy F-105s there, those were terrible even back then. But if we can't belive what we hear on the T.V or radio, read it in the books or newspaper, watch a documentary about it, what can we believe?


you guys are really talking it up. wink.gif all of you guys are quite literate and can reaLLY express yourselves , a great command. and in just a few posts you have gotten right to the point.
BELIEF the hardest thing to overcome in this world.these posts which the topic is about government or more precisley SATANS government IS the whole point. he is a liar,cunning,deceitful and death and destruction is his way.
A lie can not exist with out a thread of truth. some of you respectful don't believe In a GOD but when Jesus SAID IN THE GOSPEL WHICH MEANS GOOD NEWS he said believe in the gospel and you will be saved. he was telling mankind all about how his rule will come into being that he was GOD and that SATAN rule was defeated by his death and resurrection.I am not really preaching here just trying to get it into prospective.so there is a problem here you have truth and lies, GOD and SATAN and belief and unbelief.life or death.And you live in the infomation age.
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Posted 15 April 2005 - 07:40 AM

Satan isn't real. Hell is just a made up place to make people act good because if they know about hell they know if they do bad they go to there.
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Posted 15 April 2005 - 01:35 PM

Listen, C4Prez, if you want tro believe that Satan isn't real and that there is no Hell then fine. But I want you to about this: If we're wrong, and you are right, then fine, all is well. But if we're right and you're wrong, then what are you going to say to St. Peter at the Pearly Gates? God is to be feared, but not in the earthly common sense of the word. He's to be fear in the sense that he has the power to judge, and you should fear this. All great leaders in history were feared. Fear keeps people in line, it keeps people from rising up and over throwing the ruler. Read Nicolo Machieveli's "The Prince" and you will understand this concept. It works for God as well. "The Bible" is obviously the better read on God then "The Prince." The message reamains the same.
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Posted 15 April 2005 - 03:46 PM

Wow, this is some DEEP Shit.....I have left this alone for some time, but I will now rant....

Why do we care what Mr. Bush did in the National Guard? We didnt give a crap with Mr. Clinton? He took his sorry ass to Canada. Has any of you folks served this country? If you haven't, why do you care about Iraq? It is like everything in America, If it doesn't affect you, who the hell cares. Bottom line is the president doesnt have 100% of the power....

I have served for 11 years now in the US Army, I have missed the last 4 Christmas's and the birth of my twins, along with countless significant family events. I have served in 4 different combat zones. I was just injured during my 2nd tour in Iraq. I see the news on TV and all that is ever talked about is the negative things. Soldiers killing injured Iraqis' soldiers doing this, that. All negative. There are never stories of the positive things that are going on.

Maybe Iraq was a bad idea...I mean Sadam was as peacefull innocent man..he never wanted to hurt anyone....If you think that he had/has no weopons of mass destruction over there, your are on some good stuff....You should pull convoy security with me for an hour....you will change your mind... ...
In this day in age we have to understand a few things...there is alot of things that go on that everyday civilians could not fathom..
..but if my service in Iraq, Afganistan, Bosnia and Africa mean that our country will not have a repeat of 9-11-2001.....I will do it all over again....and I don't want any 'Thank You's'....Just make sure it never happens again....
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