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JETS LACK OF REDZONE OFFENSE STILL CURSING THE DEFENSE
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:40 PM) Catch the f***ing ball nelson
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:40 PM) it all comes down to this
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:40 PM) David ha ha Nelson is a bum
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:40 PM) why didn't they talk about Kyle Fuler when torched for 51 yards by Salas?
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:41 PM) Bullshit
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:41 PM) f***
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:41 PM) How the f*** is that not interference
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:41 PM) That's flag 101 never looking back and pushing the WR
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 10:41 PM) How is that not PI?
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:41 PM) Never looked for the ball for a second
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:42 PM) Fuck this game fuck the refs fuck this team fuck the season. I'm over this shit
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:42 PM) That's bullshit
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:43 PM) On the bright side we get to play Detroit, San Diego, NE and denver in our next 4 games
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:44 PM) Oh look the refs gave the Jets another timeout. A timeout the Jets didn't even have. SMDH
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:45 PM) Until we get rid of geno smith we are going nowhere. Bottom line. Dude is more erratic than romo
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:45 PM) I'm really not feeling Geno Smith.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:45 PM) Or any other QB in the league. Trade for Sanchez Now!
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:45 PM) We'd be 3-0 with Sanchez
SokeSleezy Icon : (Yesterday, 10:46 PM) Geno's needs to work on his accuracy,Stafford gonna kill us next week smh
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:46 PM) Yeah gonna go with a good old f*** Geno this week. He is still playing better than last year though
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:46 PM) People saying Sanchez sucks keep in mind he never had a chance to play in morningwegs system. He was held back by shottenheimer
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:47 PM) This team will never have a franchise QB. We can't draft them and when we sign or trade for them, they're past their primes.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) well
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) Because we destoy any promise in our young QBs with our elite offensive support talent.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) TIME TO CHANGE THE DIAPER
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) another game next week
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) 3-0 with Sanchez? Oh god...we've gone there already?
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:49 PM) jets need more talent on O
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:49 PM) and some god damn DBs
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:49 PM) Morninweg's system is get the offense going then throw a monkey wrench into things by putting the backup QB in there and f***ing up the offense's rhythm.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:50 PM) Yes I went there. Geno spots these teams 7-10 points weekly and has turned the ball in the redzone 3 games in a row. If not for 2 dropped ints geno would have 4 picks. Dude sucks at best
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:51 PM) Then we got Chris ivory running like marshawn lynch out there and they sit him on the bench the whole fourth quarter
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:52 PM) I'd like to use the same excuse I used for Sanchez. QB can't really do shit when your best WR would be a #3 if he was lucky on any other team
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:52 PM) yeah but sanchez was shell shcoked
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:52 PM) jets werent fixing him
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:53 PM) Geno will be to after another year or two of this shit.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:53 PM) What's kerleys contract like
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:53 PM) because if he's underpaid I don't see him sticking around
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:54 PM) he only looks good because our O is so bad.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:54 PM) I bet a lot of teams have their eye on him
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:56 PM) Decker doesn't need to play until he is completely healthy
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:58 PM) FIRE IDZIK
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 11:08 PM) How big was the Sheldon Richardson fumble recovery not being a TD. We quickly went three and out after that
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:43 PM) Idzik better not be stingy this offseason and address the biggest issues we have WR and Secondary
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 11:47 PM) King mo says he's ok, injury is minor
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f*** You Chad

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Posted 02 October 2005 - 09:34 PM

QUOTE (BucsGonnaRollOnYou @ Oct 2 2005, 10:33 PM)
That sig looks familiar, have I seen you on another board?

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Hmmm.. maybe...

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Posted 02 October 2005 - 09:37 PM

yep, seen em all. I personally like #1 and #4 the best. I hope our fans act like they have some intelligence and class and not like Duck-N-Fear.
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Posted 02 October 2005 - 09:40 PM

QUOTE (BucsGonnaRollOnYou @ Oct 2 2005, 11:12 PM)
yep, seen em all. I personally like #1 and #4 the best.  I hope our fans act like they have some intelligence and class and not like Duck-N-Fear.

ahhh... this guy:

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Posted 02 October 2005 - 09:46 PM

that pic is classic, glad he got suspended today. yahoo.gif
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Posted 02 October 2005 - 09:59 PM

QUOTE (BucsGonnaRollOnYou @ Oct 2 2005, 11:21 PM)
that pic is classic, glad he got suspended today. yahoo.gif

Heh didn't know...

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edit: Dude, that sig is AWESOME.
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Posted 02 October 2005 - 10:08 PM

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Dude, that sig is AWESOME.


You can find it on our board in the Tech forum.
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Posted 02 October 2005 - 11:27 PM

try and keep your self interested babble to your own forums.
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Posted 03 October 2005 - 09:00 AM

Its sad when it takes an opposing fan to be the voice of reason here (no offense) chad maybe didn’t deserve 64mil but he did deserve a huge deal of at least 40-50 mil which wouldn’t have been any better on the cap right now. He was a 1st round QB who played amazing for a while. And remember how good he looked last year before the injury. Weren’t we 5-0 before the chad injury last year? wow isn’t everybody so quick to forget. I agree with nightowl on this one as well. Its not chads fault. Of course he wants to play. Its up to the coaching staff to say sorry chad your not ready
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Posted 03 October 2005 - 09:01 AM

QUOTE (Mr_Jet @ Oct 2 2005, 07:49 PM)
Is that all you got?????

Personally attacking me to try to prove your point. Yeah you're pretty tough saying all that shit to me THROUGH A COMPUTER hundreds of miles away from me. You are a fool to believe Chad went out there and PURPOSELY injured himself. Then again it's you and people like you that have thought all along that Chad's wasn't a good Q.B. to begin with. But yet the team was sooooo good when he was on the field leading us to the playoffs last season, the team was sooooo good when many Jets fans and non Jets fans picked the Jets to make the playoffs again this year even with that horrible Q.B. Chad Pennington. I don't like to use this term but it fits people like you, "filp flopper."

The Jets are good with a bad Q.B. but the Jets are bad when that bad Q.B. is injured.
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PICK AN OPINION AND STICK WITH IT!!!

But then again since you know everything and know what's best for the team why don't YOU go get some pads (oh yeah and I don't mean Tampax) and a helmet and go to Jets practice this week and tell Herm to start you at QB next week.

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It completely slipped my mind that you know me personally. Find anywhere in the post where I conveyed my offline toughness in words. I outwitted you, not threatened you. Pull your skirt up, kid.

I pick the Jets to do well every season, because I'm a fan. Before every season, I say they can go 16-0. At this point, I'll still say 13-3.

The difference between you and I is that you're a Chad Pennington fan, and not a Jets fan. Not to turn this into a political discussion... but I'm still an American even if I disagree with some of the President's decisions (just to place things in perspective for you).

If I could strap up the pads again and try out for a team, I would. But my college football hopes were shot with high school football injuries I returned too soon from. Try being 15 - 16 with 2 herniated discs and losing feeling on the left side of your body... to ignore doctors, forge medical papers to play again senior year, and never play again. Trust me when I say how important it is to make sure you're fully rehabbed. And that's at a high school level, where I wasn't paid $64m to be THE MAN for the team.

Common sense tells me what'd be best for the team. My football career has been done since 12th grade.
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Posted 03 October 2005 - 09:12 AM

chad has been a bust before the injuries. wake up! furthermore the jets organization is hypocritical and now paying for it. examples...
firing ted cotrell while keeping hackett. result...no superbowl. also holding injuries over abe's head for leverage in contractual negotiations, while paying pennington like brady, p. manning, etc. and he never played a full season. result...no superbowl. anyway you cut it, the organization needs to be more assertive while consistent, including herm's job security.
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Posted 03 October 2005 - 09:46 AM

QUOTE (jet-man @ Oct 3 2005, 07:47 AM)
chad has been a bust before the injuries. wake up! furthermore the jets organization is hypocritical and now paying for it. examples...
firing ted cotrell while keeping hackett. result...no superbowl. also holding injuries over abe's head for leverage in contractual negotiations, while paying pennington like brady, p. manning, etc. and he never played a full season. result...no superbowl. anyway you cut it, the organization needs to be more assertive while consistent, including herm's job security.


be4 the injuries he was the leagues best passer. every analyst was on his balls about how great he was and so was the fans. probably including u. he doens't suck he doens't throw punts he is just hurt. plain and simple. i'll still take a healthy cahd over almost any QB in the league. only ones i woulnd't are mcnabb, peyton manning, and tom brady
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Posted 03 October 2005 - 10:49 AM

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QUOTE (Maynard13 @ Oct 2 2005, 10:05 PM)
Thats the best wording I've seen of people who agree with me, well put

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Posted 03 October 2005 - 11:58 AM

IT's amazing that Jet fans are in here saying F#$k Chad because the coaches & medical staff allowed him to play. He got a $64 million contract so it's his fault we're losing because he was trying to earn that money unlike so many other players in this league.

With the play calling I saw yesterday, Chad even after the new injury should have been there because there wasn't a ball thrown for more than 10 yards until the 4:00 mark in the fourth qtr. I guess that's Chad's fault too right?

Get off your high horses and start acting like fans of this team instead of blaming the losses on Chad. Every game we've lost can be attributed to poor O line play & poor coaching yesterday. It's been amazing that week after week I'm coming in & seeing everyone jumping on Chad as if he were the enemy, but there's no one saying F#$k the O line. Why not? What the hell have they done at all this season except allow our 1st & 2nd string QB's get put out & haven't opened shit up for Curtis yet.

Like it or not, Chad will be back next season. Forget about Leinart, & Young. We're not going to get them. We can trade up all we want & it won't change a damn thing regarding the salary cap.

Who do you want more? Leinart/Young or Abe? Those are your choices because if you want either of those 2 QB's, forget about being able to afford to keep Abe.
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Posted 03 October 2005 - 12:06 PM

Young is projected to go 12-18 overall which is realistic for us to get him. on top of that chad should take a paycut if he can’t play next year to make room for us. He already offered we should take him up on it. also I agree with the blaming chad thing. Everybody wants a scape goat but fact is it’s the whole offense fault not chad. And the coaching staff.
1) the o-line isn’t protecting the QB or opening holes
2) Martin isn’t getting it done
3) Sowell is dropping passes and missing blocks
4) Jolloy, chrebet, j-mac, and coles are all dropping passes.
5) Were using a 3rd string QB
6) The coaches are scling back the playbook for Bollinger( and for chad also)
7) Mental erros (were minus in TO ratio. Martin has a fumble already, abe was “offsides” and cost us 7 right there, etc.

That’s why were losing. Not chad. If u want to assign blame blame everyone on the offense except Bollinger and blame the jets staff for letting chad play and scaling back the playbook so bad Hackett looks like a genius for us.
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Posted 03 October 2005 - 12:07 PM

QUOTE (JetsOhFive @ Oct 2 2005, 11:57 AM)
It's truly sad.  After the AFC Divisional Playoff game against Oakland in 2002.  I thought we had something special with Chad and that he would in time bring us a Superbowl.  It's a shame that a short 2 and a half years later that his career and the good of the franchise would be in doubt because of stupidity on his part.

Agreed upon, but that last part, I don't know what you mean. He is an absolute warrior, and playing hurt is one think you love about someone. That shows a love for the game and above all the team.
And to Bigrob, don't say f him, because did he say "Okay, give me 2 rotator cuffs surguries."? No, and it was the Jets that offered him that big contract, and he signed it. And he offered $2 million back, but they rejected it.
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Posted 03 October 2005 - 12:15 PM

Whoever gets Leinhart next season will have to break Alex Smiths Record anyway, we cant afford that.

Like it or not Chad Penningtons career isnt over and he will be our starter next year although hopefully not until mid season, because I want him to be healthy.

Heres the thing, as a jets fan knowing the fact he will be back for us next season I continue to support him.

When a healthy Chad pennington takes to the field, gives his all and still comes up short. Then it will be over, until then he is our franchise QB.. Get used to it.
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Posted 03 October 2005 - 12:17 PM

If the NFL talks with the Union goes as planned, the salary cap may get increased to 100 million or so. If that happens, the Jets would be able to cut Chad, and take the cap hit and still be fine to make a deal for a new QB. That's a lot of "if's" though.
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Posted 03 October 2005 - 12:27 PM

What we have to get used to is NO QB HAS EVER HAD 2 TORN ROTATOR CUFF INJURIES!

The list is very minute of players ever coming back from the original one and looking as they did before. Now Chad has a new tear in his rotator cuff and has to go through another surgery. To me, he should start paying attention to the coaching staff and learning how to coach a team cause I dont think he'll play for the Jets anymore... or anyother team for that matter. It sucks but if he doesn't resign his contract then he is gonna get the axe. He is damaged goods, very expensive damaged goods to a team that now all of the sudden has an ENORMOUS salary cap issue.

Did we turn into the Redskins over night? No... they can atleast start a season undefeated. The can atleast throw it deep to Santana Moss in the clutch and win the games. Mark Brunell seems like he is better than Chad cause look what he's doing with Santana! Moss looks like he is on pace to be a pro-bowler. They take chances, big ones, which is also why we can't be them.

I guess we can't compare at all actually. We are just the same old Jets! I dont wanna use the word "cursed" cause I really dont think it applies. But it's clear that the Jets were blinded by ambition so that they never saw this coming. This is clearly all the coaches and managements fault. We might be in for a serious 3 year project coming soon.
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Posted 03 October 2005 - 12:39 PM

Thing is though who gets the blame, thats what everyone wants, someone to blame.

Is it Chad for signing a big contract knowing he hadnt played a full season or the front office for letting him knowing he was an injury risk (This was the only reason I was not screaming for a trade for abe)?

Was it Chads fault for coming back on an arm that was repaired but not strong enough trying to fulfill this contract or the coaches for letting him?

This is the only reason I still defend him because I would answer the front office and coaches for those questions. I know life isnt as black and white as this but I dont like the fact people are laying the blame at the feet of someone who was foolish and headstrong trying to not let anyone down when we have a front office that seems to be getting off scot free.
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Posted 03 October 2005 - 02:00 PM

No one's *beep*ing about Chad's contract. I'm glad he got paid, especially coming off a great season - no one could foresee two torn rotator cuffs. I'm *beep*ing about his JUDGMENT - His judgment to realize he has a responsibility to be the top player for a team that just shelled out $64M for his services. His judgment to not seek more accurate medical advice after the Buffalo game, returning in 2 weeks, and further straining/aggravating an injury that NEEDED attention THEN.

I don't care if Chad was on the sidelines screaming at Herman Edwards to put him in the game. You don't throw in a player who's prone to injury, and running the risk of aggravating current injuries because he wants to lead. What's Chad's toughness at the latter part of last season going to do for us THIS season? What's his hurried rehab, for less-than-stellar performances in the beginning of THIS season going to do for the team for the remainder of THIS season - and likely his career?

So *beep* Chad, *beep* the coaching staff, and *beep* everyone in between who thought letting him play was a good idea. As a fan, they said Chad was ready, and all I could do was believe them, and support the team. All of them had responsibilities to be honest... you see Chad throwing 20 yard floaters, you don't let it go with "footwork" problems. You see him trying to learn a new offensive system with a line that's not blocking up to par, you don't let it get sugarcoated with any other excuses... you PULL the Franchise QB from the game until he's prepared to lead the franchise.
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