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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
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Posted 10 February 2009 - 04:14 AM

The Jets figure to make an offer to free-agent safety Jim Leonhard, according to the Newark Star-Ledger. Leonhard played for new Jets coach Rex Ryan last season.In four seasons, Leonhard has split time between Baltimore and Buffalo. He is still young enough that he may not have reached his peak yet, but last season was his best. He had 69 tackles (55 solo) and an interception returned for a touchdown last year. http://www.fantasysp.com/player/nfl/Jim_Leonhard/226543
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Posted 10 February 2009 - 12:56 PM

I know elam got burnt some, but what about us growing his play making ability?

especially with a real guru teaching him.

what do you guys think?
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Posted 10 February 2009 - 01:44 PM

QUOTE (RaphAC @ Feb 10 2009, 12:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I know elam got burnt some, but what about us growing his play making ability?

especially with a real guru teaching him.

what do you guys think?


Elam is way too slow for coverage. They want a pure FS so they can turn Rhodes into a SS to allow him to basically roam the field looking to make a play instead of being deep in coverage. Elam is probably going to end up being a special teams player.
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Posted 10 February 2009 - 02:16 PM

QUOTE (SecondHandJets @ Feb 10 2009, 01:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Elam is way too slow for coverage. They want a pure FS so they can turn Rhodes into a SS to allow him to basically roam the field looking to make a play instead of being deep in coverage. Elam is probably going to end up being a special teams player.

poor guy, i wish there was a way to get him on the field, because he is a playmaker, and has high energy, something lacking on our defense.

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Posted 10 February 2009 - 02:56 PM

i love elam, and i thought he was one of the bright spots on our defense

put him in coach!
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Posted 10 February 2009 - 03:14 PM

QUOTE (V DidDy 210 @ Feb 10 2009, 02:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i love elam, and i thought he was one of the bright spots on our defense

put him in coach!


He's a liability in coverage. He's a good blitzer so maybe he'll see some playing time in a 46. Then again probably not.
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Posted 10 February 2009 - 03:25 PM

i don't think leornhard is much better then elam. i could be wrong but he didn't show much other then he is a role player
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Posted 10 February 2009 - 03:48 PM

This is a good move. Elam should still see some playing time in certain packages. Smith is a goner.
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Posted 10 February 2009 - 03:49 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Feb 10 2009, 04:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i don't think leornhard is much better then elam. i could be wrong but he didn't show much other then he is a role player


Its a slight at someone now to be a role player? I think we need more ROLE players. I'm the biggest Elam supporter on the board, was calling for him before everyone else wanted him. But Leonard is much more a complete player.

I'll take the "role player" Leonard in a second so we can swap over Rhodes.
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Posted 10 February 2009 - 04:44 PM

I don't know what the hype is for Leonard. I know he had a good season but how many 1 hit wonders are their in the NFL?.. TONS!!, you know, the guys that have a great year and can't be found the next. Leonard seems like the flavor of the year to me.

Personally I think we need to draft one and there is a damn good one in Missori
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Posted 10 February 2009 - 05:20 PM

Hes a little guy with a big heart. He is pretty fast, he was all over the place in the playoffs. I would take him, he won't get much money anyways.
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Posted 10 February 2009 - 07:27 PM

QUOTE (S-Dubb @ Feb 10 2009, 05:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't know what the hype is for Leonard. I know he had a good season but how many 1 hit wonders are their in the NFL?.. TONS!!, you know, the guys that have a great year and can't be found the next. Leonard seems like the flavor of the year to me.

Personally I think we need to draft one and there is a damn good one in Missori


Moore isn't that good from Mizzou. Talented, but I never saw the hype around him
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Posted 10 February 2009 - 09:12 PM

i like leohnard alot. he was all over the field when he was given the chance, and he plays with alot of intensity.
i like him



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Posted 11 February 2009 - 12:16 PM

QUOTE (S-Dubb @ Feb 10 2009, 04:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't know what the hype is for Leonard. I know he had a good season but how many 1 hit wonders are their in the NFL?.. TONS!!, you know, the guys that have a great year and can't be found the next. Leonard seems like the flavor of the year to me.

Personally I think we need to draft one and there is a damn good one in Missori


The fact that he's Rex's guy and he wants him here is enough for me.
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Posted 11 February 2009 - 12:23 PM

Im a little iffy on him also. And I like elam, but he is a BIG problem in pass coverage. I do feel like we should resign him though. Good depth player. great blitzer

One guy I would look at in the draft is Rashad Johnson from alabama. Could probably be had in the 2nd round. I dont think he slips to the 3rd.
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