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Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:51 PM) Milliner did suffer a high ankle sprain, that sucks. could linger all year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:52 PM) I think Patterson sucked vs the Colts because he was injured, which he always is.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:37 PM) Corey Ivy CB
36 Jim Leonhard SS/PR
43 Haruki Nakamura FS
25 Evan Oglesby CB
20 Ed Reed FS
22 Samari Rolle CB
39 Daren Stone FS
41 Frank Walker CB
31 Fabian Washington in 2008
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:39 PM) Reed is a HOF but Rolle was way past his prime
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) SNOOPY BOWL FRIDAY!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
518-JeTS-FaN Icon : (20 August 2014 - 08:54 AM) disgusted with my local programming, instead of jets and giants they are airing the raiders vs packers..wtf
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 09:23 AM) Glad I don't live up there anymore haha
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The JETS are #6 in the Forbes List for most franchise value
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The Buffalo Jills are #31 and the Miami Dolphags are #16 respectively
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 07:00 PM) The JETS are worth $1.8 billion
jet-man Icon : (20 August 2014 - 10:03 PM) that's less than the clippers
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:07 PM) I'm very excited with the amount of preseason touchdowns the Jets have
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:21 PM) FIRE IDZIK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:22 PM) Calvin Pryor and Darrin Walls will start tomorrow
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:52 PM) The SIMPSONS MARATHON has been on for almost 12 hours...
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:57 PM) Sanchez looks so much more confident and better in Chip's offense than he did with us
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:50 PM) EVERY SIMPSONS EVER!!!!!
2JBallar01 Icon : (Today, 07:10 AM) Sanchez is looking good for the eagles. Crazy how a good offense and the right system can make you look so much better. When you're put into a situatuon to succeed, magic happens. Happy for Sanchez, i think he needed a change just as much as the Jets did.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 08:02 AM) Preseason doesn't matter at all
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 11:10 AM) anyone have a stream for the preseaosn agme by chance?
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Posted 24 November 2008 - 12:00 AM

Five things we learned from the Jets 34-13 dismantling of the previously undefeated Titans (Recap | Box Score) at LP Field on Sunday.....

1. The Jets are starting to look capable of going all the way: That's right, you heard me (or read me). I'm talking about all the way to the big game that likes to use Roman numerals and gives the winner an on-field confetti shower just after the final gun.

There's nothing preposterous about that statement given what "Brett and the Jets'' have accomplished in their past two games. In a span of 11 days, New York went into Foxboro and beat its nemesis, the defending AFC champion Patriots, and then took to the road once more to resoundingly knock off the 10-0 Titans, ending any thought of perfection in Tennessee.

At 8-3, with five straight wins and seven in eight games, these Jets with every passing week are looking like a tough-minded team capable of beating you with their running game, their passing game, or some well-timed defense. The more I think about it, they're looking like the 2007 Super Bowl Giants once they got on that unstoppable late-season/playoff roll. If the Jets are capable of handling both the Patriots and the Titans, I'm not sure who in the AFC they should fear at this point?

"I'm not going to sit here and say we've established ourselves as the best team in football,'' New York quarterback Brett Favre said, after quite possibly his team's most complete performance of the season. "All it says is that I think we beat the best team in football today. Definitely if you go by record and the way they've played.''

Which is exactly our point. The Jets just beat the team they could never beat and the team that nobody could beat in back-to-back games. After climbing those twin peaks, I don't think first-place New York is going to be intimidated by the likes of Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Denver, Miami or whoever else the conference can throw at them. During New York's five-game winning streak, it's averaging 34 points a game.

Favre himself sees what's building in the Jets locker room. He's been around long enough to know when a team has got that magic mojo going, and the Jets lead the AFC -- and forgive us, Giants, maybe the league -- in that department right now.

"I've started sensing a belief, where it's, 'All right, okay, we can get it done,' '' Favre said. "We have a long ways to go, but that's where it starts. I've started sensing that guys are believing what we're trying to do here.''

Jets nose tackle Kris Jenkins said his club wants to be "taken seriously,'' and then reminded everyone that the hunger for more of what New York has been experiencing runs deep in its locker room.

"I don't think as a team we have the right to be feeling ourselves,'' Jenkins said. "We're not invincible. We've got three losses, and I'm pretty sure we could have three more if we don't take care of things.''

But these Jets are taking care of things, and they've got something going right now that could take New York somewhere it hasn't been in 40 years: the Super Bowl. It might sound a bit funny now, but it's becoming less of a joke with every passing week.

2. The Titans are better off having finally lost a game: I know it's not a popular mindset right now, particularly in the Tennessee locker room, but in time I believe it will serve the Titans' purposes better to have missed out on the hype-fest that would have continued to build if their undefeated season had stayed intact.

These Titans are largely a lunch-pail type team, that works hard and isn't built around the star system. These are not your 2007 Patriots, where Tom Brady and Randy Moss and Junior Seau and Rodney Harrison and Tedy Bruschi were eminently comfortable and familiar with the national media spotlight. Tennessee didn't need the potential distraction that perfection posed, and Jeff Fisher's club is better off for not having the added pressure of winning every game -- or the season's a failure. See Patriots, 2007.

I'm sure Tennessee, which hadn't lost a regular-season game since Week 14 of last year, was starting to enjoy 100 percent success. Who wouldn't? But it's not mandatory, and all you have to do is ask last year's Patriots whether or not they'd trade their 18-1 season for one where the loss came in late-November rather than early February?

This loss to the Jets, as humbling as it was, might even serve to re-stoke the Titans' competitive fires just as the season's backstretch begins. Nothing wrong with that, because human nature being what it is, complacency can set in when every week ends with another victory.

"We got embarrassed at home,'' Titans linebacker Keith Bulluck said. "It's time for us to turn the heat up. A lot of these teams are in playoff mode, and we were sitting there at 10-0. Now it's time for us to really put our game face on, and get back to the ball that we were playing in the first five, six and seven games of the season.''

The 10-1 Titans at least get the chance to quickly wipe away the stench from Sunday's game, given that they're playing at Detroit on Thanksgiving Day. Nothing like a game against the winless Lions to make an NFL team feel better about itself.

3. The Jets are proving they can run against anyone: New York's offensive line just ran over Tennessee in the third and fourth quarter, and you're not supposed to be able to do that against the Titans and their Albert Haynesworth-led defensive line. That second-half domination had lots to do with the Jets scoring 24 of their 34 points after the break.

At halftime, New York had just 54 yards rushing on 17 attempts, a modest 3.2 average. But in the second half, the Jets pounded out 138 more rushing yards on 22 carries, a whopping 6.3 yards a carry. New York's total of 192 yards on 39 rushes (4.9 average) is going to put a serious dent in a Titans rushing defense that came into the game ranked 10th in the league, giving up 95.1 yards per game.

"The offensive line once again this week did a really good job of controlling up front,'' said Jets running back Leon Washington, who gained 82 yards on just eight carries, highlighted by his 61-yard early fourth-quarter touchdown burst. "We kind of wore them down.''

Thomas Jones led the Jets rushing attack with 96 tough yards on 27 carries, after gaining just 35 yards in the first half. But New York stayed with its running game, and you can see the Jets offensive linemen gaining confidence as the game wears on. New York wound up with an overwhelming time of possession advantage, holding the ball for 40:30, compared to Tennessee's 19:30.

"That's a fun day for us to be able to go out there and accomplish that,'' said Jets guard Alan Faneca, of New York's rushing performance. "That's an offensive lineman's dream.''

4. Brett Favre has no favorite receiver: Early in his New York tenure, it was said that Favre had bonded on field with receiver Jerricho Cotchery. And then it was slot receiver Chansi Stuckey. And then the notion was that he liked to feed Jones and Washington with those deadly little screen passes. And then he and Coles finally started hooking up, followed by a stint where rookie tight end Dustin Keller emerged as Favre's go-to guy.

The truth is, he has no go-to receiver, because he'll go to all of them -- if they're open. And sometimes even if they're not. Against Tennessee, Favre was a model of fairness, completing passes to seven different receivers, with the top four of those having three catches or more. Laveranues Coles led the way with seven catches for 88 yards and a touchdown, but Cotchery had six for 55 yards, Keller had six for 42, and Jones had three for 21, including a nifty 10-yard screen pass that went for New York's first touchdown. Favre finished an efficient 25-of-32, for 224 yards, with two touchdowns and his first interception in three games.

Titans defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz last week sort of predicted what kind of day Favre was going to have on Sunday, telling me, "He's moving the ball around to everybody. Look at the guys he's thrown the most to, Coles and Cotchery. They have almost identical numbers of touchdowns and catches. He likes Leon Washington. He'll throw it to Thomas Jones, and Stuckey has become the nickel guy in the slot. I don't know that he has a favorite guy, because he's just running their offense and using all his options.''

5. Favre has quickly become the team's heart and soul: For a guy dropped into New York in early August like a care package, Favre has done a remarkable job of winning over his teammates. I've covered three Jets games so far this season, all New York wins, and after each of them a string of Jets veterans couldn't stop talking about how well Favre has blended in and become one of the guys.

On Sunday, Jets nose tackle Kris Jenkins, who has a particularly good relationship with his quarterback, could resist gigging No. 4 repeatedly.

"I've got the luxury of playing with somebody who's almost my dad's age,'' cracked the 29-year-old Jenkins, of the 39-year Favre. "I was watching him play when I started growing my adult teeth.''

Sometimes you hear locker room stuff like that and you can tell its forced-sounding camaraderie, offered up for the media only. This isn't. The Jets really like Favre, and he likes them back. It's a decent fit all the way around. Being 8-3 of course helps. But that's not the whole story. After all those years in Green Bay, Favre is a Jet, and I think you can't overestimate what his presence has meant to this team.
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Posted 24 November 2008 - 03:12 AM

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At 8-3, with five straight wins and seven in eight games, these Jets with every passing week are looking like a tough-minded team capable of beating you with their running game, their passing game, or some well-timed defense. The more I think about it, they're looking like the 2007 Super Bowl Giants once they got on that unstoppable late-season/playoff roll. If the Jets are capable of handling both the Patriots and the Titans, I'm not sure who in the AFC they should fear at this point?


Wow!!!.. here comes respect! but I agree. We can hang with anyone at this point.

Man this feels good and I'm going enjoy every second of this. I encourage everyone to be happy and optimistic from here on out. Enjoy this Jets fans!
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Posted 24 November 2008 - 09:27 AM

Why was the Article So short ? biggrin.gif keith is wrong we are not in playoff mode . we are hitting our stride . playoffs aren't
near just yet . secondly the notion that our QB needs to have a favorite WR is foolishness the point is to spread it around by design. still the long ball will have to rear its head if we want to beat the Giants. as they showed us how to handle a short passing game like the cards on sunday and walk to victory with stars on the sidelines .sure wish we still had Ward can't believe we let him get away. Mangini you better look at your squad and check to see if you have another guy like that on the team."put him in coach " we need a BIG BOY RB Too. I am sure this will be on NFL net work.
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Posted 24 November 2008 - 09:48 AM

I wouldn't say SB just yet for any team. Things change in the NFL week to week. Still, it's impossible not to be inspired and excited by how they've been playing. You just got the feeling there was no way the Titans were going to come back in this game. The Jets are looking at 12 wins this year!
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Posted 24 November 2008 - 10:19 AM

QUOTE (gmany3k @ Nov 24 2008, 08:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Mangini you better look at your squad and check to see if you have another guy like that on the team."put him in coach " we need a BIG BOY RB Too. I am sure this will be on NFL net work.


Jehuu Caulcrick. He's a Brandon "Earth" Jacobs clone. Time for our own version of Earth , Wind, And Fire!
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Posted 24 November 2008 - 10:19 AM

I said it before this game, I'll say it now. I think we're the best team in the AFC. No question in my mind. We do have a nack for blowing important games though so nothing is gauranteed with the Jets. I still think the Giants are better but it would definitely make for an awesome Superbowl. I mean besides New York vs New York. Brett Favre vs the team that knocked him out last year.
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Posted 24 November 2008 - 10:29 AM

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Jehuu Caulcrick. He's a Brandon "Earth" Jacobs clone. Time for our own version of Earth , Wind, And Fire!



I think he was cut .he was from my wife's home town . is he on the roster ?
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Posted 24 November 2008 - 11:25 AM

QUOTE (TimmyLamJones @ Nov 24 2008, 12:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Five things we learned from the Jets 34-13 dismantling of the previously undefeated Titans (Recap | Box Score) at LP Field on Sunday.....

1. The Jets are starting to look capable of going all the way: That's right, you heard me (or read me). I'm talking about all the way to the big game that likes to use Roman numerals and gives the winner an on-field confetti shower just after the final gun.

There's nothing preposterous about that statement given what "Brett and the Jets'' have accomplished in their past two games. In a span of 11 days, New York went into Foxboro and beat its nemesis, the defending AFC champion Patriots, and then took to the road once more to resoundingly knock off the 10-0 Titans, ending any thought of perfection in Tennessee.

At 8-3, with five straight wins and seven in eight games, these Jets with every passing week are looking like a tough-minded team capable of beating you with their running game, their passing game, or some well-timed defense. The more I think about it, they're looking like the 2007 Super Bowl Giants once they got on that unstoppable late-season/playoff roll. If the Jets are capable of handling both the Patriots and the Titans, I'm not sure who in the AFC they should fear at this point?

"I'm not going to sit here and say we've established ourselves as the best team in football,'' New York quarterback Brett Favre said, after quite possibly his team's most complete performance of the season. "All it says is that I think we beat the best team in football today. Definitely if you go by record and the way they've played.''

Which is exactly our point. The Jets just beat the team they could never beat and the team that nobody could beat in back-to-back games. After climbing those twin peaks, I don't think first-place New York is going to be intimidated by the likes of Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Denver, Miami or whoever else the conference can throw at them. During New York's five-game winning streak, it's averaging 34 points a game.

Favre himself sees what's building in the Jets locker room. He's been around long enough to know when a team has got that magic mojo going, and the Jets lead the AFC -- and forgive us, Giants, maybe the league -- in that department right now.

"I've started sensing a belief, where it's, 'All right, okay, we can get it done,' '' Favre said. "We have a long ways to go, but that's where it starts. I've started sensing that guys are believing what we're trying to do here.''

Jets nose tackle Kris Jenkins said his club wants to be "taken seriously,'' and then reminded everyone that the hunger for more of what New York has been experiencing runs deep in its locker room.

"I don't think as a team we have the right to be feeling ourselves,'' Jenkins said. "We're not invincible. We've got three losses, and I'm pretty sure we could have three more if we don't take care of things.''

But these Jets are taking care of things, and they've got something going right now that could take New York somewhere it hasn't been in 40 years: the Super Bowl. It might sound a bit funny now, but it's becoming less of a joke with every passing week.

2. The Titans are better off having finally lost a game: I know it's not a popular mindset right now, particularly in the Tennessee locker room, but in time I believe it will serve the Titans' purposes better to have missed out on the hype-fest that would have continued to build if their undefeated season had stayed intact.

These Titans are largely a lunch-pail type team, that works hard and isn't built around the star system. These are not your 2007 Patriots, where Tom Brady and Randy Moss and Junior Seau and Rodney Harrison and Tedy Bruschi were eminently comfortable and familiar with the national media spotlight. Tennessee didn't need the potential distraction that perfection posed, and Jeff Fisher's club is better off for not having the added pressure of winning every game -- or the season's a failure. See Patriots, 2007.

I'm sure Tennessee, which hadn't lost a regular-season game since Week 14 of last year, was starting to enjoy 100 percent success. Who wouldn't? But it's not mandatory, and all you have to do is ask last year's Patriots whether or not they'd trade their 18-1 season for one where the loss came in late-November rather than early February?

This loss to the Jets, as humbling as it was, might even serve to re-stoke the Titans' competitive fires just as the season's backstretch begins. Nothing wrong with that, because human nature being what it is, complacency can set in when every week ends with another victory.

"We got embarrassed at home,'' Titans linebacker Keith Bulluck said. "It's time for us to turn the heat up. A lot of these teams are in playoff mode, and we were sitting there at 10-0. Now it's time for us to really put our game face on, and get back to the ball that we were playing in the first five, six and seven games of the season.''

The 10-1 Titans at least get the chance to quickly wipe away the stench from Sunday's game, given that they're playing at Detroit on Thanksgiving Day. Nothing like a game against the winless Lions to make an NFL team feel better about itself.

3. The Jets are proving they can run against anyone: New York's offensive line just ran over Tennessee in the third and fourth quarter, and you're not supposed to be able to do that against the Titans and their Albert Haynesworth-led defensive line. That second-half domination had lots to do with the Jets scoring 24 of their 34 points after the break.

At halftime, New York had just 54 yards rushing on 17 attempts, a modest 3.2 average. But in the second half, the Jets pounded out 138 more rushing yards on 22 carries, a whopping 6.3 yards a carry. New York's total of 192 yards on 39 rushes (4.9 average) is going to put a serious dent in a Titans rushing defense that came into the game ranked 10th in the league, giving up 95.1 yards per game.

"The offensive line once again this week did a really good job of controlling up front,'' said Jets running back Leon Washington, who gained 82 yards on just eight carries, highlighted by his 61-yard early fourth-quarter touchdown burst. "We kind of wore them down.''

Thomas Jones led the Jets rushing attack with 96 tough yards on 27 carries, after gaining just 35 yards in the first half. But New York stayed with its running game, and you can see the Jets offensive linemen gaining confidence as the game wears on. New York wound up with an overwhelming time of possession advantage, holding the ball for 40:30, compared to Tennessee's 19:30.

"That's a fun day for us to be able to go out there and accomplish that,'' said Jets guard Alan Faneca, of New York's rushing performance. "That's an offensive lineman's dream.''

4. Brett Favre has no favorite receiver: Early in his New York tenure, it was said that Favre had bonded on field with receiver Jerricho Cotchery. And then it was slot receiver Chansi Stuckey. And then the notion was that he liked to feed Jones and Washington with those deadly little screen passes. And then he and Coles finally started hooking up, followed by a stint where rookie tight end Dustin Keller emerged as Favre's go-to guy.

The truth is, he has no go-to receiver, because he'll go to all of them -- if they're open. And sometimes even if they're not. Against Tennessee, Favre was a model of fairness, completing passes to seven different receivers, with the top four of those having three catches or more. Laveranues Coles led the way with seven catches for 88 yards and a touchdown, but Cotchery had six for 55 yards, Keller had six for 42, and Jones had three for 21, including a nifty 10-yard screen pass that went for New York's first touchdown. Favre finished an efficient 25-of-32, for 224 yards, with two touchdowns and his first interception in three games.

Titans defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz last week sort of predicted what kind of day Favre was going to have on Sunday, telling me, "He's moving the ball around to everybody. Look at the guys he's thrown the most to, Coles and Cotchery. They have almost identical numbers of touchdowns and catches. He likes Leon Washington. He'll throw it to Thomas Jones, and Stuckey has become the nickel guy in the slot. I don't know that he has a favorite guy, because he's just running their offense and using all his options.''

5. Favre has quickly become the team's heart and soul: For a guy dropped into New York in early August like a care package, Favre has done a remarkable job of winning over his teammates. I've covered three Jets games so far this season, all New York wins, and after each of them a string of Jets veterans couldn't stop talking about how well Favre has blended in and become one of the guys.

On Sunday, Jets nose tackle Kris Jenkins, who has a particularly good relationship with his quarterback, could resist gigging No. 4 repeatedly.

"I've got the luxury of playing with somebody who's almost my dad's age,'' cracked the 29-year-old Jenkins, of the 39-year Favre. "I was watching him play when I started growing my adult teeth.''

Sometimes you hear locker room stuff like that and you can tell its forced-sounding camaraderie, offered up for the media only. This isn't. The Jets really like Favre, and he likes them back. It's a decent fit all the way around. Being 8-3 of course helps. But that's not the whole story. After all those years in Green Bay, Favre is a Jet, and I think you can't overestimate what his presence has meant to this team.

Don't take it wrong. I am a 35 year green bleeding jet fan but wasn't Haynesworth in sporadically in 2nd half. He definitely was not playing as well as he did in first half. He seems like Jenkins; take him out and the defense isn't quite the same.
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