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MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) good
MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
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Kerry Rhodes Vs Bob Sanders

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 07:26 PM

Both in my opinion are very good at the FS position. They both are young. And speedy ball hawks. In that case would you rather have Bob or Kerry. Me as most of us i assume would chose Rhodes but maybe some think Sanders is better. It would be cool if we could have Sanders and Rhodes and maybe trade Coleman.

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 07:35 PM

I would rather have Rhodes, because Sanders is injury prone. And Rhodes is better in coverage and a better blitzer. He gets off the edge faster then Sanders for the sacks. Rhodes is more complete, while Sanders is more of a hard hitting run stuffer. Rhodes is taller also, and can stop the taller WRs and TEs.
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Posted 29 January 2007 - 07:37 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 29 2007, 07:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would rather have Rhodes, because Sanders is injury prone. And Rhodes is better in coverage and a better blitzer. He gets off the edge faster then Sanders for the sacks. Rhodes is more complete, while Sanders is more of a hard hitting run stuffer. Rhodes is taller also, and can stop the taller WRs and TEs.



i couldnt have said it any better!
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Posted 29 January 2007 - 07:41 PM

I actually think Rhodes has much better instincts and is a surer tackler than Sanders. Rhodes is bigger and stronger and seems to have more field presence than Sanders. I'll take Rhodes anyday, and I'm not just saying that because I;m a Jets fan

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 07:42 PM

Rhodes is defintely the next super star at safety.
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Posted 29 January 2007 - 07:48 PM

it depends what safety position...as a free safety i would love sanders. he immediately makes your run defense good, even if u dont start with much. as a strong safety, definitly rhodes, he's much beter at controlling the whole field, not just the running game, and he gets around faster. he can be deep in coverage and just get to where the ball is

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 07:48 PM

sanders does a lot of nice things and he has been a stud for the colts since he came back and might, singlehandedly, be the reason they are in the superbowl.....BUT....the way we use rhodes and will continue to use him i would never trade....i still think mangini has some wrinkles for how to use rhodes now that he has a little more experience and field presence....cant wait to see him next year!!!

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 07:51 PM

QUOTE (ellisjersey92 @ Jan 29 2007, 07:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
it depends what safety position...as a free safety i would love sanders. he immediately makes your run defense good, even if u dont start with much. as a strong safety, definitly rhodes, he's much beter at controlling the whole field, not just the running game, and he gets around faster. he can be deep in coverage and just get to where the ball is



I was under the impression, or this is how it was in high school, that FS was a roamer and more pass coverage and last man back position where as SS was first to act in the middle and TE middle routes and what not.

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 07:55 PM

QUOTE (VILMAmazing51 @ Jan 29 2007, 08:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
sanders does a lot of nice things and he has been a stud for the colts since he came back and might, singlehandedly, be the reason they are in the superbowl.....BUT....the way we use rhodes and will continue to use him i would never trade....i still think mangini has some wrinkles for how to use rhodes now that he has a little more experience and field presence....cant wait to see him next year!!!

Oh i never talked about trading Rhodes hes one of my favorite players. I talked about trading Coleman. It'll be 10 years b4 Mangini gets wrinkles lmao i was just doing some dreaming of having both of the as our safteys

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 08:06 PM

QUOTE (cmart=the best @ Jan 29 2007, 08:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh i never talked about trading Rhodes hes one of my favorite players. I talked about trading Coleman. It'll be 10 years b4 Mangini gets wrinkles lmao i was just doing some dreaming of having both of the as our safteys




NO NO NO....i didnt mean "trade" him like trade the colts rhodes for sanders.....i just meant i wouldnt trade off rhodes for sanders since the question...i thought....was who we like better...

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 08:23 PM

QUOTE (ganggreen_ewok @ Jan 29 2007, 08:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I actually think Rhodes has much better instincts and is a surer tackler than Sanders. Rhodes is bigger and stronger and seems to have more field presence than Sanders. I'll take Rhodes anyday, and I'm not just saying that because I;m a Jets fan


That's most important to me. Sanders, like a lot of DBs, misses a lot of tackles going for the huge hit that will get him on "Jacked Up." Rhodes is a really impressive tackler.
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Posted 29 January 2007 - 08:50 PM

QUOTE (Dave @ Jan 29 2007, 07:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's most important to me. Sanders, like a lot of DBs, misses a lot of tackles going for the huge hit that will get him on "Jacked Up." Rhodes is a really impressive tackler.

And its not like he can't step back and plant someone. Ask Maroney if Rhodes is a hard hitter

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 09:04 PM

QUOTE (ganggreen_ewok @ Jan 29 2007, 08:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was under the impression, or this is how it was in high school, that FS was a roamer and more pass coverage and last man back position where as SS was first to act in the middle and TE middle routes and what not.

the strong safety plays to the strength of the offensive formation, which is almost always where they have more recievers. this puts them into more of a coverage role while the free safety is "free" to play in run support

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 09:11 PM

Sanders is not the playmaker Rhodes is, statistically there was no better playmaking safety in the league this year than Rhodes. Kerry is the easy choice for me, with honestly no homerism.
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Posted 29 January 2007 - 09:21 PM

QUOTE (ellisjersey92 @ Jan 29 2007, 08:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
the strong safety plays to the strength of the offensive formation, which is almost always where they have more recievers. this puts them into more of a coverage role while the free safety is "free" to play in run support


Then why is certain sub-sets does the SS line up closer to the line of scrimmage, or in front of the FS before the snap? I played Safety in high school and I roamed whil the other safety was run and linebacker support, he was SS on the Depth chart.

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 09:36 PM

im familiar with the defense i played in high school. also if you look at guys like sanders, lynch and taylor, theyre bigger hitters that play FS

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 09:37 PM

I think they are both amazing safeties, Bob Sanders is one of the most instinctive safeties I've seen in awhile and when he plays in the box he makes plays. Kerry Rhodes is a do it all safety he can blitz, drop back into coverage, and come up on the line when needed. I can't choose between the two.

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Posted 30 January 2007 - 12:01 AM

It's funny. I remember being one of the only guys on this site that liked Rhodes over Maddox when we drafted them both. And don't lie fellas, I know who you are.... I think anyway.

Funny that the only knock on the guy was that he wasn't physical enough. People over analyze the players way too much prior to the draft and I think Kerry Rhodes is a prime example of that. Now which one is better.... I'll tell you it's hard to say considering they both play so differently. Sanders is a pro bowl safety who runs faster than Deangelo Hall... that's nice. However, I like Rhodes and I like how the Jets use them.

However I find it nearly impossible and pointless to try and say who's better. It depends on the team at the end of the day and Bob Sanders has his team in the Superbowl because he's a great player and contributes HEAVILY to that defense. Kerry Rhodes played great this season, he disappeared a few games this year but all in all he was the best Safety in the league. This is like comparing apples to oranges. They both taste good, it's just a matter of preference. I love Kerry Rhodes but I think Bob Sanders might be better right now.
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Posted 30 January 2007 - 04:39 AM

I'd take Rhodes over Sanders. I happen to like Sanders alot but I think Rhodes has a better skill set. Sanders is known for his dominance on the run. Rhodes does it all. He gets picks,blitzes,mans up 1 one 1 and is very good on run support. I think Kerry is the better safety at this point. Not to mention Kerry has started all 32 games and Bob has been injury prone.
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Posted 30 January 2007 - 10:45 AM

the only thing that i can say about bob sanders that's better than rhodes is his tackling, not to say rhodes can't tackle in fact he can BUT sanders have been known to stop big guys on the spot but rhode's much better in every other catagory and he's taller
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