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ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
santana Icon : (24 April 2015 - 11:32 PM) TEH WIZ
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:57 AM) Teh Suarez
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:00 AM) Until next time fellas!
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:19 PM) Helloooooooooo
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:19 PM) Bueller
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:33 PM) Manish says the Jets should trade down and draft Andrus Peat round 1
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 04:39 PM) Even an idiot can say something that's right every now and then
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#1 User is offline   richkotite2006 Icon

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Posted 29 November 2005 - 08:45 PM

A nose tackle's job to to stop the run. 36 tackles in 11 games is a joke! All you De-rob backers must understand.... Have any of you guys watched him play.... I am not talking the entire defense and what happens after the play, but just him alone. He stands right up and gets no penetration. He has not been double teamed because he is too weak to drive a single player into the backfield.

He has been getting driven into the linebackers. Double teams are you kidding me? He cannot even hold his ground to stuff the run. Usually you'll see him standing around the person who make the tackle after being pushed there by the center. Watch him next game!

This is our #1 pick of which we gave up 2 #1's for? He should dominate for this reason alone. My grandmother could play better defensive line and she is dead! You guys are waiting for this piece of crap to finally do something. 1 big game this year. How many years have we've been terrible against the run 5-6?
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Posted 29 November 2005 - 08:52 PM

#1 - D-Rob isn't the nose, James Reed is.

#2 - Nose Tackles aren't supposed to get alot of tackles. They're supposed to line up across from center and basically dance with him while other guys do important things.
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Posted 29 November 2005 - 08:55 PM

Further more, defensive linemen are NOT supposed to rack up tackles, they are more there to plug holes, rush the passer and eat blocks so the linebackers can make a play.
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Posted 29 November 2005 - 08:58 PM

Other than that, I think you're right. He certainly hasn't played like he's the #4 pick in the draft and he definately wasn't worth all that money that we forked over.
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Posted 29 November 2005 - 08:59 PM

QUOTE (richkotite2006 @ Nov 29 2005, 09:20 PM)
This is our #1 pick of which we gave up 2 #1's for?  He should dominate for this reason alone.  My grandmother could play better defensive line and she is dead!  You guys are waiting for this piece of crap to finally do something.  1 big game this year.  How many years have we've been terrible against the run 5-6?





dam how big was your granny?




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Posted 29 November 2005 - 09:08 PM

QUOTE (richkotite2006 @ Nov 29 2005, 09:20 PM)
A nose tackle's job to to stop the run.  36 tackles in 11 games is a joke! All you De-rob backers must understand.... Have any of you guys watched him play.... I am not talking the entire defense and what happens after the play, but just him alone.  He stands right up and gets no penetration.  He has not been double teamed because he is too weak to drive a single player into the backfield.

He has been getting driven into the linebackers.  Double teams are you kidding me?  He cannot even hold his ground to stuff the run. Usually you'll see him standing around the person who make the tackle after being pushed there by the center.  Watch him next game! 

This is our #1 pick of which we gave up 2 #1's for?  He should dominate for this reason alone.  My grandmother could play better defensive line and she is dead!  You guys are waiting for this piece of crap to finally do something.  1 big game this year.  How many years have we've been terrible against the run 5-6?


last year we were the 5th best team against the run with a real nose tackle, now with a guy that's 5'11 280 at the nose we've been terrible. Next years 2 priorty, get a real NT
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Posted 29 November 2005 - 09:16 PM

I think your the one that doesn't know to much buddy.

DT's are not supposed to get alot of tackles just like jetsohfive said.

To make a great D.T you need a big N.T to take on double teams.

Take it from jetsohfive the guy played Olineman. He knows his shit.

I think it's time to go back to football 101. Learn the basic mechanics.
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Posted 29 November 2005 - 09:32 PM

Wait............does the punter try for field goals?......or..mno wait, the OT does...thats right


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Posted 29 November 2005 - 09:34 PM

I think we found the biggest idiot on this site, congrats on winnign that award mr. Rich Kotite. You have proved post after post, that you are simply an idiot. Since when does Defensive Lineman get a lot of tackles. Most of their tackles, are tackles for a loss, or Sacks. The most of the tackles of course go to the linebackers.
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Posted 29 November 2005 - 10:34 PM

well i guess last year when he dominated for 18 games he didn't have the strength to push back blockers either? yeah right. you guys are so funny. how the hell does D-rob have the strength to dominate last year and this year he can't push anyone back? it must be his age right. he's nearing the 30 mark(sarcasm). whateva. D-rob is a good player. he needs other people around him but he's still a good player.
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Posted 29 November 2005 - 10:36 PM

QUOTE (triple3s @ Nov 29 2005, 11:09 PM)
well i guess last year when he dominated for 18 games he didn't have the strength to push back blockers either? yeah right. you guys are so funny. how the hell does D-rob have the strength to dominate last year and this year he can't push anyone back? it must be his age right. he's nearing the 30 mark(sarcasm). whateva. D-rob is a good player. he needs other people around him but he's still a good player.



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Posted 29 November 2005 - 10:39 PM

Once again, just look at the ass clown's nick name, and you'll know dip shit over here is just trying to start shit. Whatever will piss people off he'll write. And once more, don't give him the satisfaction, ignore butt pirate, please!


PS - sdubb, make sure to put "League Leading 120 Tackles and League Leading 84 solo" in your sig...just makes it all the better!
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Posted 29 November 2005 - 10:41 PM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Nov 29 2005, 11:14 PM)
Once again, just look at the ass clown's nick name, and you'll know dip shit over here is just trying to start shit.  Whatever will piss people off he'll write.  And once more, don't give him the satisfaction, ignore butt pirate, please!
PS - sdubb, make sure to put "League Leading 120 Tackles and League Leading 84 solo" in your sig...just makes it all the better!



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Posted 29 November 2005 - 10:43 PM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Nov 30 2005, 04:14 AM)
Once again, just look at the ass clown's nick name, and you'll know dip shit over here is just trying to start shit.  Whatever will piss people off he'll write.  And once more, don't give him the satisfaction, ignore butt pirate, please!
PS - sdubb, make sure to put "League Leading 120 Tackles and League Leading 84 solo" in your sig...just makes it all the better!


Did you just call him a butt pirate?

lol

Sounds like something Beavis & Butthead would say... lol
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Posted 30 November 2005 - 05:16 AM

Shaun Rogers 22 tackles, less than d-rob are you going to question his ability to play tackle?

i never thought that tackles were important for a big DT, just pressure, collapsing the pocket anf filling gaps and forcing running backs to change their direction
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Posted 30 November 2005 - 07:55 AM

QUOTE (predator94 @ Nov 30 2005, 05:51 AM)
Shaun Rogers    22 tackles, less than d-rob are you going to question his ability to play tackle? 

i never thought that tackles were important for a big DT, just pressure, collapsing the pocket anf filling gaps and forcing running backs to change their direction

Bingo on that last one. That's what lets you know whether or not a defensive lineman is doing his job against the run.
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Posted 30 November 2005 - 08:01 AM

If we sign a big nose tackle this offseason then we should be back up near top for run D.
Another big guy to go alongside DRob and that will open more space for our Linebackers and also would allow us to get more sacks as there will be more to handle with another 315+ lb guy, allowing Ellis,DRob or Abe to get a sack.
I think the past two years D Rob has played well and was a reason why our run D improved so much last year. This year against Tampa he was great and he has played well in other games too
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Posted 30 November 2005 - 09:35 AM

You guys have it all figured out. A bunch on New York geniouses! Keep supporting this pile of dung. I'm sure he'll continue to disappoint for years to come.
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Posted 30 November 2005 - 09:38 AM

I would love to read your point of view about the situation and if you do please do not repeat your ladder comments becasue thats not how it works but i would love to hear it.
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Posted 30 November 2005 - 09:57 AM

QUOTE (triple3s @ Nov 29 2005, 11:09 PM)
well i guess last year when he dominated for 18 games he didn't have the strength to push back blockers either? yeah right. you guys are so funny. how the hell does D-rob have the strength to dominate last year and this year he can't push anyone back? it must be his age right. he's nearing the 30 mark(sarcasm). whateva. D-rob is a good player. he needs other people around him but he's still a good player.


"good player" That is the key, when you away two number one picks to acquire this guy, he should be GREAT by this time, not good.

Furthermore, it was the JETS that were telling us how GREAT he was last year, and how he should be considered for the pro bowl. Just another way to justify Bradway's poor drafting. And that is not to say he is not a good player with potential; because he is. I think the Jets have exaggerated his play so far.
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