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Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
santana Icon : (24 April 2015 - 11:32 PM) TEH WIZ
Jetsman05 Icon : (26 April 2015 - 06:57 AM) Teh Suarez
Jetsman05 Icon : (26 April 2015 - 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (26 April 2015 - 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (26 April 2015 - 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
Jetsman05 Icon : (26 April 2015 - 07:00 AM) Until next time fellas!
azjetfan Icon : (26 April 2015 - 01:19 PM) Helloooooooooo
azjetfan Icon : (26 April 2015 - 01:19 PM) Bueller
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (26 April 2015 - 01:33 PM) Manish says the Jets should trade down and draft Andrus Peat round 1
azjetfan Icon : (26 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Even an idiot can say something that's right every now and then
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 08:08 PM) THE CAPS
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Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:37 PM) Missouri edge rusher Shane Ray was arrested Monday morning for possession of marijuana in Cooper County, Missouri, Brandon Kiley of KTGR in Columbia, Missouri reports.
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Posted 16 May 2005 - 03:03 PM

I am going to take the lead on this one, but everyone is more than welcome to chime in and contribute your nutrition, workout, general health, specific health questions... thanks ronny and stay healthy!
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Posted 16 May 2005 - 03:34 PM

for anyone that lifts...right now when i go to the gym i do the back and bis, chest and tris type thing, but ive heard of people doing bis and tris and then back and chest...the opposites. if anyone does anything like this, can u let me know what u do and your results.

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Posted 16 May 2005 - 03:35 PM

Just do this, I'm a practicing dieter for the past 2 years. After you eat, exercise, don't do the Atkins diet, all it does is increase your chance of stroke or heart attack, not to mention you gain the weight back in a short period of time, so in order for it to do you any good you have to stay on it, just making heart attack and stroke knocking on your door. Not to mention it can still make you fat, and only eat meats once or twice a week, take it from a 68 pounder.
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Posted 16 May 2005 - 03:39 PM

on the atkins diet note... all the atkins diet does is promote a fatter, less active society. carbs are the complex sugars that are our energy. if anyone plays a sport, a lot of times, there are pasta dinners for teams, or you are encouraged to eat starches before games. when you cut out carbs, you might lose weight, but you will have absolutely no energy. not to mention, carbs wouldnt be bad at all if people would get off their asses and work them off a little bit each day.

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Posted 16 May 2005 - 03:49 PM

I've been working out on and off for the last 25 years. Your workout all depends on the amount of time you have. That coupled with eating the right amount of protein is key. You need a minimum of 1 gram per pound of your weight on a daily basis to gain any mass. That's a minimum. I try for a gram 1/2. I try to work out 4 or 5 days a week and take off on the weekends. I hate a crowded gym. :-)

Workout (1) Hit a body group each day and rest the weekends. If I do this, I kill those groups with 3 or 4 sets of all out punishment, minimum.
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Workout (2) Chest, Shoulders Tris on Mon & Thurs, Back, Bi's Legs on Tues & Friday. Wednesday I do cardio and abs with abs mixed in each day after my workout.

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Posted 16 May 2005 - 03:54 PM

The Atkins and lo carb diets are great for losing weight but horrible for working out. You just don't have the energy from the lack of carbs. What I find works best is eating your carbs early int he day and stop by dinner.

But that's just me.
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Posted 16 May 2005 - 03:55 PM

QUOTE (Chadforpresidentin08 @ May 16 2005, 04:10 PM)
only eat meats once or twice a week, take it from a 68 pounder.



If you want any bulk, forget that eat meat twice a week thing. If you do that, you'll end up being a 68 pound adult too. crazy.gif
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Posted 16 May 2005 - 04:37 PM

it all depends on what you are training for...

atkins will make you skinny in your casket...

the bis/tris workout is very effective because you work antagonistic muscles... with any workout, you shoul dnot do it mor ethan a month or two... some you may not want to do for more than a week... the problem with bis/tris is if you do too much of that some of the workouts use each other, especially if you slack on your form... so have perfect form biggrin.gif if you can... and work opposite muscle groups like chest/back or bis/tris but only sparingly... it is a very effective way...
supersets are also very good to push your muscles, this means you do supplemental exercises like bench then lat pulldowns with no rest in between... then you take about one set worth of rest and keep going with it... always let your muscles rest or they cant grow... ideally you should eat before and after a workout (something as small as raisins... kill free radicals which develop cancer and impede the muscle building process)

i have way too much to say on this, so i am gonna have to slow down and get more specific... ill get back to you guys in a few

the best weight room exercise you can do that sooo many people do not is the squat... it increases testosterone level which helps build muscle along with many other positive effects wink.gif

the best exercise for you body in general is swimming because it puts almost no stress on your joints and you get a great workout... but you dont feel like you sweat... its weird but the best exercise for anyones body

then there is activity specific workouts which i will try to get into later... but you know what that means biggrin.gif
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Posted 16 May 2005 - 05:34 PM

For those of whom it isn't too late to do this, start good eating habits as a kid. biggrin.gif Also, whwn you order a salad, ask for the dressing on the side, and don't eat things you saw on TV as it's being eatedn, you'll more likely do that, making you the size of a hot air ballon.
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Posted 16 May 2005 - 05:45 PM

it is never too late to start healthy eating... mean health for example constantly has stories about people who lost ridiculous amounts of weight when they had some kind of epiphany... bottom line is eating healthy is possible at any given time, you just have to be willing...

as far as dressing, it is a dangerous thing, because people assume salad is healthy but a mcdonalds salad with dressing cna be worse for you than a big mac... also dont worry about dieting because if you eat right 90 percent of the time you can afford to splurge the other 10...
back to dressings, try to use oil and vinegar (extra virgin olive oil is the best) or lemon is excellent, there are many recipes for making healthy dressings without fat... blue cheese and ranch are two of the worst for you and anything alfredo is ludicrously fattening... dont eat it!

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Posted 16 May 2005 - 09:05 PM

thanks for the info on the antagonistic stuff...ive had good results with the back and bis thing...but if i understood you guys correctly, i can only benfit from changing up.

and about squatting...i love squatting. i play football and that is the most important exercise by far in football. up to 5 x 5 of 265 of box squats biggrin.gif , with my 6'2" long ass legs...

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Posted 17 May 2005 - 08:24 AM

you will benefit from doing one thing... just that you may end up overworking a muscle group or neglecting other ones... i know for football you need every muscle, so get every muscle strong from your toes to your eyelids to your pecs...
plus if you keep doing the same routine you will eventually hit a plateau, so to break out of that and/or avoid it altogether switch it up... use that height man, like i have said in other threads, i wish i had that, dont take it for granted...

as far as the box squat it is a good way to get your form right, but i would also make sure you work deep squats to get a full range of motion in your joints and help avoid injury... also power cleans are a great way to work on explosion, if your team doesnt do those already they should look into that and the bigger, faster, stronger system (which is where box squats and the dot drill were introduced to me)...

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Posted 17 May 2005 - 09:20 AM

thanks...yea we do cleans...we have a power day which is push press, (shoulder press standing up and using legs) hang cleans and dead lift.

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Posted 18 May 2005 - 10:38 PM

QUOTE (ellisjersey92 @ May 16 2005, 04:09 PM)
for anyone that lifts...right now when i go to the gym i do the back and bis, chest and tris type thing, but ive heard of people doing bis and tris and then back and chest...the opposites. if anyone does anything like this, can u let me know what u do and your results.


Hear is my routine: Day 1: Chest , Day 2: Back, Day 3: off, Day 4: Shoulders and Traps, Day 5: Arms both bicep and triceps Day 6: Legs Day 7: off.

And not for the kids out there, but for the adults, I know it is illegal now but 1-AD I took a 4 week cycle, I gained 15 lbs from it, and only 5 lbs water weight, so that is 10 lbs of solid muscle in a month. I was pretty satisfied with it. And the only side effect that I had with it was after I was done taking it my sex drive was practically gone, like I didn't even think about sex, but after 2 weeks I was back to normal.
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