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MikeGangGree... Icon : (27 December 2016 - 08:07 PM) HIRE REX RYAN
Jetsfan115 Icon : (28 December 2016 - 02:52 PM) rex runs a good defense
santana Icon : (28 December 2016 - 08:29 PM) not lately
Jetsfan115 Icon : (30 December 2016 - 03:33 PM) bills players said they were basically too dumb to understand it lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (30 December 2016 - 03:33 PM) he ran a good one for us
Jetsfan115 Icon : (30 December 2016 - 03:34 PM) Darrelle Revis: Jets should show class and retain me
Jetsfan115 Icon : (30 December 2016 - 03:34 PM) where was his class when he held out twice and forced us to trade him lol
NJAzrael71 Icon : (30 December 2016 - 03:36 PM) Mevis showed hius LACK of class with that busllshit comment
MikeGangGree... Icon : (01 January 2017 - 01:40 PM) Lets start 2017 with a Win
MikeGangGree... Icon : (01 January 2017 - 01:41 PM) Hack should be playing
MikeGangGree... Icon : (01 January 2017 - 03:39 PM) wooooo5-11
MikeGangGree... Icon : (01 January 2017 - 04:00 PM) J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (01 January 2017 - 05:56 PM) OK so Bill O brien and Sean Payton might get fired according to Fox this morning
MikeGangGree... Icon : (01 January 2017 - 05:56 PM) I would do anything to get one of them as OC
santana Icon : (02 January 2017 - 02:19 PM) texans coach? i doubt he gets fired
santana Icon : (02 January 2017 - 02:19 PM) but he would be ideal if the jets were to flush bowles out
santana Icon : (02 January 2017 - 04:36 PM) http://www.nj.com/je...trol_of_je.html
azjetfan Icon : (05 January 2017 - 09:54 PM) Sean Payton will get another HC gig. Obrien would be good.
azjetfan Icon : (09 January 2017 - 11:18 PM) Howard from Alabama seems legit. #88 TE
azjetfan Icon : (09 January 2017 - 11:20 PM) Williams the WR from Clemson looks like they are out to get him. He has taken some huge hits
vjdbbq Icon : (10 January 2017 - 07:12 AM) We'll take Williams in the first round .
Chadforpresi... Icon : (10 January 2017 - 10:48 AM) I'd love Howard in the 2nd round if he's still there. I like Williams a lot as well, but I just don't see WR being big enough of a need, and there should be better talent on the board at 6
Jetsfan115 Icon : (10 January 2017 - 07:21 PM) Raiders OC Musgrave not expected to return to OAK. what do you think about getting him? he did wonders with the oakland offense this year
Chadforpresi... Icon : (10 January 2017 - 07:39 PM) Definitely an appealing choice given with his history of progressing Carr. We need someone with a track record of grooming young QBs
MikeGangGree... Icon : (12 January 2017 - 12:36 PM) I want Watson now! after what he did Monday night I'm sold on him at QB. He moved the ball all night on Alabama and after hurts scored that TD he just told his team "Lets end this"
Jetsfan115 Icon : (12 January 2017 - 06:31 PM) An Ohio prosecutor says he wants to know what punishment Cincinnati Bengals player Adam "Pacman" Jones faces from the NFL before deciding how to proceed over Jones' latest arrest, Dan Sewell of the Associated Press reports..

Hamilton County Prosecutor Joe Deters tells WKRC-TV he's asking "what is the normal" for a player with multiple offenses and who's been suspended before.

An NFL spokesman said on Thursday that Jones' case is "under review" and declined to comment further.

Jones was jailed Jan. 3 on charges he head-butted police and spit on a nurse after his arrest for assault. Authorities say he was so combative he had to be placed in a restraint chair.

Jones says he anticipates the charges will be dismissed.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (12 January 2017 - 06:32 PM) we wont get watson. he's going 1st overall to the browns
azjetfan Icon : (12 January 2017 - 09:06 PM) Is Watson a product of Clemson's staff and supporting cast? Taj Boyd also put up some decent numbers if I remember correctly but he couldn't even make a scout team in the NFL.
azjetfan Icon : (12 January 2017 - 09:11 PM) From what I have read (although limited) he is not the highest ranked QB in the draft.
azjetfan Icon : (12 January 2017 - 09:11 PM) "No quarterback in this draft -- not Mitch Trubisky, not Watson, not DeShone Kizer -- is considered a sure thing. The folks at Scouts Inc. rank Trubisky, Watson and Kizer as the 21st, 38th and 46th prospects on their big board, respectively." ESPN
azjetfan Icon : (12 January 2017 - 09:12 PM) If we can get a decent return for Richardson we may be able to make a move into the mid teens to early 20s if the Brass really likes Watson.
azjetfan Icon : (12 January 2017 - 09:13 PM) Personally I don't think the jets have a clue on who they will take. We still have to hit FA and manage our roster
azjetfan Icon : (12 January 2017 - 11:46 PM) Jets to interview Broncos assistant Studesville for OC
Jetsfan115 Icon : (13 January 2017 - 01:28 PM) Why? seems like a weird choice
Jetsfan115 Icon : (13 January 2017 - 01:29 PM) Leonard Williams replacing Khalil Mack in Pro Bowl
Chadforpresi... Icon : (13 January 2017 - 09:49 PM) I'm not buying Watson, even after that championship game. Dude threw too many picks in his day
Chadforpresi... Icon : (13 January 2017 - 09:49 PM) I'm really curious to see what we get for Richardson, but I have a bad feeling his value is at an all time low between his crap season and bad attitude
azjetfan Icon : (14 January 2017 - 12:16 AM) I agree. He is a first round talent but a fourth round headache. We will be lucky to get a 2nd
Chadforpresi... Icon : (14 January 2017 - 08:41 AM) Yeah precisely. 2nd rounder would be a huge stretch. 3rd or 4th is more likely
vjdbbq Icon : (14 January 2017 - 02:18 PM) Send Sheldon someplace he will never see the playoffs ; like Jacksonville ; then he will have time to find da ho's .
azjetfan Icon : (14 January 2017 - 07:25 PM) R Sherman is getting torched by the Falcons.
vjdbbq Icon : (Yesterday, 09:37 AM) Pats vs Pitt - root for injuries
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 12:36 PM) GB-ATL game is gonna be a hell of a shootout. that throw rodgers made on 3rd and 20 with 12 seconds left in a tied game was ridiculous. 35 yards rolling out to his left a perfect placed ball on the sideline.
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 10:50 PM) Winters resigned to 4 year deal. $7 million per year
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 10:51 PM) Seems like a slightly steep price but overall cool with it, he's turned into a good player and is still young. Just needs to stay healthy.
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Posted 08 December 2008 - 01:09 AM

The pressure is on S-Dubb. Let's see the glass half full on this one. Some of you guys pounded me for my Cowher avatar and my attitude towards this coaching staff. Especially you buddy! drinks.gif

It's all good though, I'm just curious to see how you now see this team.
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Posted 08 December 2008 - 01:16 AM

QUOTE (SignalZero @ Dec 8 2008, 01:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The pressure is on S-Dubb. Let's see the glass half full on this one. Some of you guys pounded me for my Cowher avatar and my attitude towards this coaching staff. Especially you buddy! drinks.gif

It's all good though, I'm just curious to see how you now see this team.


you run this site? i am not saying you should view it through rose colored glasses but you suck. ban me please if you must but you are "the typical Jet fan". Your posts are always 'the sky is falling'. Yes, I realize the jets are like that much of the time but they are 8-5 and tied for the division lead right now. Yuu probably predicted them to win 6 games htis year if I looked back.
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Posted 08 December 2008 - 01:33 AM

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you run this site? i am not saying you should view it through rose colored glasses but you suck. ban me please if you must but you are "the typical Jet fan". Your posts are always 'the sky is falling'. Yes, I realize the jets are like that much of the time but they are 8-5 and tied for the division lead right now. Yuu probably predicted them to win 6 games htis year if I looked back.



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Posted 08 December 2008 - 01:38 AM

Well Sig I guess your a fortune teller because I atleast gave them the benefit of the doubt. The only time you show up is when the team is doing bad and you couldn't give them props when they put together good games. But I know I'll always see ya when their going through the sh*t. This time is no different.

With that said... There possibly can't be no spin on this. The Jets are trash and this season "looked" promising. Again they have taken my heart, rip it out of my chest and stomped on it again. I'm not sure at 30 how much more I can take. It doesn't matter who we have on this team. It doesn't matter if we have Tom Brady or Peyton Manning or a shut out defense. This team is cursed... PERIOD! We always play not to lose. It's sickening!!.. Honestly I'm so exhausted and it's my own fault. I felt after us winning 7 of 8 and beating the Pats and Titans that we found our way. Well I was wrong and I'm just soooo tired of rooting for this team. I try with every bone in my body to remain positive but I just can't do it anymore. There is no passion.. were flat!!. Were like little kids in a mens league.

I watched the Cowboys/Steeler game and I just get jelous. Real 3-4 defenses just going toe to toe.. I salivate watching a team (like Pittsburg) come ready to fight every week. Their amped up!!, their coach is awesome. It's great to see Tomlin out there chest bumping players and getting hyped up. Watching the tenacity of their defense play hard for their fans and it's not like we don't have the talent. Our coaching just flat out sucks. I'm not going to put everything on Mangini but Bob Sutton is a piece of sh*t. If I seen him on the street I'd spit on this guy! We have major problems with coaching and I don't know who to blame for it. Is it Mangini?... is it Sutton?... We play too much man coverage and we constantly get beat over and over and over again. Does Mangini not see whats going on?.. This game falls on the coaching Mangini included and so did the Denver loss.

I feel like I've been abused. I felt so positive these last few weeks. I wasn't thinking superbow,l I was just thinking a good hard fought playoff run. This team is lost, The coaching staff is lost and in turn the players are lost. This is the beginning of the end of a pretty good season. The Jets don't deserve to be affiliated with the playoffs. We were on top of the world 2 weeks ago and in charge of our own destiny. Now what?.. we'll be fighting for a wild card?.. F*ck this team.. I'm so tired!



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Posted 08 December 2008 - 05:35 AM

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 07:02 AM

QUOTE (S-Dubb @ Dec 8 2008, 01:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well Sig I guess your a fortune teller because I atleast gave them the benefit of the doubt. The only time you show up is when the team is doing bad and you couldn't give them props when they put together good games. But I know I'll always see ya when their going through the sh*t. This time is no different.

With that said... There possibly can't be no spin on this. The Jets are trash and this season "looked" promising. Again they have taken my heart, rip it out of my chest and stomped on it again. I'm not sure at 30 how much more I can take. It doesn't matter who we have on this team. It doesn't matter if we have Tom Brady or Peyton Manning or a shut out defense. This team is cursed... PERIOD! We always play not to lose. It's sickening!!.. Honestly I'm so exhausted and it's my own fault. I felt after us winning 7 of 8 and beating the Pats and Titans that we found our way. Well I was wrong and I'm just soooo tired of rooting for this team. I try with every bone in my body to remain positive but I just can't do it anymore. There is no passion.. were flat!!. Were like little kids in a mens league.

I watched the Cowboys/Steeler game and I just get jelous. Real 3-4 defenses just going toe to toe.. I salivate watching a team (like Pittsburg) come ready to fight every week. Their amped up!!, their coach is awesome. It's great to see Tomlin out there chest bumping players and getting hyped up. Watching the tenacity of their defense play hard for their fans and it's not like we don't have the talent. Our coaching just flat out sucks. I'm not going to put everything on Mangini but Bob Sutton is a piece of sh*t. If I seen him on the street I'd spit on this guy! We have major problems with coaching and I don't know who to blame for it. Is it Mangini?... is it Sutton?... We play too much man coverage and we constantly get beat over and over and over again. Does Mangini not see whats going on?.. This game falls on the coaching Mangini included and so did the Denver loss.

I feel like I've been abused. I felt so positive these last few weeks. I wasn't thinking superbow,l I was just thinking a good hard fought playoff run. This team is lost, The coaching staff is lost and in turn the players are lost. This is the beginning of the end of a pretty good season. The Jets don't deserve to be affiliated with the playoffs. We were on top of the world 2 weeks ago and in charge of our own destiny. Now what?.. we'll be fighting for a wild card?.. F*ck this team.. I'm so tired!



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Posted 08 December 2008 - 07:12 AM

There is a 99% chance that Mangini is the HC of the NYJ next season. There is a 25% chance that Bob Sutton is the DC next season.
There is a 99% chance that Bill Cowher will NOT ever be our HC.

I think we can only hope that bringing in a new DC will solve the problem.
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Posted 08 December 2008 - 07:13 AM

QUOTE (titmouse @ Dec 8 2008, 01:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
you run this site? i am not saying you should view it through rose colored glasses but you suck. ban me please if you must but you are "the typical Jet fan". Your posts are always 'the sky is falling'. Yes, I realize the jets are like that much of the time but they are 8-5 and tied for the division lead right now. Yuu probably predicted them to win 6 games htis year if I looked back.

I would never ban you for stating your opinions. And no, I didn't predict 6 wins, I always look on the bright side until coach clueless proves me wrong yet again. How old are you? How long have you been a Jets fan? I have no idea but I can guarantee you that you haven't been suffering nearly as long as I have or you wouldn't have this attitude. The Jets suck me in every year and as much as I was crying about the sky was falling, I still actually believed we had a chance to turn it around and make this superbowl, but then we got exposed by two average teams in a row and we just weren't prepared. INEXCUSABLE. Good teams find a way to win, great teams find a way to dominate, we are neither. We have the players to compete at a high level, but not the coaches.
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Posted 08 December 2008 - 07:15 AM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Dec 8 2008, 07:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There is a 99% chance that Mangini is the HC of the NYJ next season. There is a 25% chance that Bob Sutton is the DC next season.
There is a 99% chance that Bill Cowher will NOT ever be our HC.

I think we can only hope that bringing in a new DC will solve the problem.

dude it's the same thing all over again with Herm. Herm couldn't coach and went through a whole new set of coordinators trying to pass the blame before we finally got rid of him. History repeats itself all over again.
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Posted 08 December 2008 - 07:58 AM

QUOTE (SignalZero @ Dec 8 2008, 07:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
dude it's the same thing all over again with Herm. Herm couldn't coach and went through a whole new set of coordinators trying to pass the blame before we finally got rid of him. History repeats itself all over again.


That is the thing about this team. It doesn't matter who the coach is, it doesn't matter who the GM is, it doesn't matter who the players are, it is always the wrong combination and we have to wait until the too soft owner whether it was Leon Hess or now Woody who develop insane loyalty to staff who have proven nothing. It will take a complete failure and a 1-16 season for him to realize he has the wrong people then they will make a change and bring in a new coach who will say he doesn't have his people, they will tear down the team and rebuild it only to find out the coach does not know what he is doing then the whole process starts again. It never ends it is a cycle of failure. The only one I give a bit of a pass to is Tannenbaum becuase I think he has done a pretty good job for the most part. He filled every need Mangini wanted including getting rid of Vilma who, as wqe are seeing now would have been a damn sight better it covering those short passes than a bunch of converted down lineman. I am 46 and have been with the Jets since I first started watching football I was too young to really appreciate that win so I have spent my life rooting for a perennial loser. I am starting to feel like one myself rooting for such a disappointing team. Some how though I will not avert my eyes and will continue to be there every Sunday but frankly I can't explain why.
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Posted 08 December 2008 - 08:39 AM

QUOTE (SignalZero @ Dec 8 2008, 07:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would never ban you for stating your opinions. And no, I didn't predict 6 wins, I always look on the bright side until coach clueless proves me wrong yet again. How old are you? How long have you been a Jets fan? I have no idea but I can guarantee you that you haven't been suffering nearly as long as I have or you wouldn't have this attitude. The Jets suck me in every year and as much as I was crying about the sky was falling, I still actually believed we had a chance to turn it around and make this superbowl, but then we got exposed by two average teams in a row and we just weren't prepared. INEXCUSABLE. Good teams find a way to win, great teams find a way to dominate, we are neither. We have the players to compete at a high level, but not the coaches.


I think coach clueless is a proper name for him. I'm 16 years old I've seen Vinny, Chad, Brett, coach Sperm, and Mangini and co. Every time I get hope maybe we'll make a run the Jets play like same old Jets, at least I worked the past two Sunday's instead of sitting home yelling at my TV
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Posted 08 December 2008 - 10:00 AM

You're all a bunch of negative Nancy's here.

Every team goes into a slump. Even the 16-0 2007 Patriots. Remember they had a couple weeks last year where they nearly lost. They didn't because they were juggernauts, though.

It's just unfortunate that we ran into our slump right now. There's no real place to throw the blame in this game, because it falls on everyone the same.

The guys came out flat and the coaches called a conservative game. We sent no heat at Shaun fuckin Hill, and let Isaac Bruce scorch us. I don't know what's going on with the pass defense. We've got rushers, a shutdown CB, a Pro Bowl Caliber Safety, another CB that could go to the hall of fame... and we get exposed.

The loss sucks. They always do. But we're STILL in first. We got Buffalo next week, and the sky hasn't fallen yet.

It hurts going from potential Super Bowl contenders to questionable for the postseason... but if we make it into the playoffs, it's anybody's game.

There's no way to spin yesterday's game for a positive outlook. The performances were pathetic all around. But there's no need to go spiraling out of control just yet.
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Posted 08 December 2008 - 10:01 AM

QUOTE (SignalZero @ Dec 8 2008, 07:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
dude it's the same thing all over again with Herm. Herm couldn't coach and went through a whole new set of coordinators trying to pass the blame before we finally got rid of him. History repeats itself all over again.

I think people over estimate our talent a bit. But anyways good coordinators can help.... Look at the Steelers, their HC Tomlin isn't that good. He looks clueless half the time, but his DC is the best in the business at what he does so it makes him look good by having such a dominant defense.

Our talent isn't that great on defense. We really don't have a stud pass rusher, Bryan Thomas was a complete bust before Mangini got here and turned him into a average player. Calvin Pace is above average LB but he isn't a great pass rusher.
With all the failures at HC did half of them know how to draft? At least Mangini/Tannenbaum have drafting/bringing in their players down. I'll say this, if we get a new DC and our defense still sucks dick. I will be off the Mangini bandwagon. But I think he deserves being able to get a quality DC first. Hopefully Romeo Crennel, I believe he would be the best fit here.


Our offensive problems I just don't understand. Our right side of our OL can't pass block, only Brick and Mangold are good at it. Our WR don't get open downfield(We should activate Clowney)
Favre seems like he can't get our WR the ball half the time.
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Posted 08 December 2008 - 10:08 AM

These are the perfect signature threads you guys should use for your new gridiron space. you can hide in there and become closet Jet Fans. the game was Pathetic .Leon's return was a thing of beauty the penalty was BS. there seems to be a demonic presence hovering over the NFL industry and black magic is performed over the players . I thought we had Bret Favre at QB and the Versatile defense is stuck in 8 man coverage with 5 guys wacthing 1 wr catch the ball.
the Giants didn't fair well either but they have a cushsion. cowboys lost thats a plus for me personally.
looks like the NFL want our devision to go down to the wire its great for ratings.
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Posted 08 December 2008 - 10:08 AM

I'm not sure why we keep abandoning the run. 10 carries for Jones? And we did the same last week? It's strange.
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Posted 08 December 2008 - 10:17 AM

The talent level is a bit overated by us no doubt 0099...on both sides of the ball. IMO the Gholston signing is becoming a major liability this season.. We can REALLY use a guy with fresh legs to get out there on passing downs and get pressure on the QB, not dance with the Offensive tackle!

Mangini doesn't impress me at all..

Favre looks like he hit a wall..

But we do have a playoff game next week at home against the Bills..
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Posted 08 December 2008 - 11:28 AM

QUOTE (Leon#29 @ Dec 8 2008, 10:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The talent level is a bit overated by us no doubt 0099...on both sides of the ball. IMO the Gholston signing is becoming a major liability this season.. We can REALLY use a guy with fresh legs to get out there on passing downs and get pressure on the QB, not dance with the Offensive tackle!

Mangini doesn't impress me at all..

Favre looks like he hit a wall..

But we do have a [b]playoff game next week at home against the Bills..[/b]

Lets hope the Jets treat the final 3 games as playoff games because truth is if they lose one they are out of it now. Luckily we hold all tie breakers. So we HAVE to win the final 3 games to win the division.
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Posted 08 December 2008 - 01:19 PM

I actually don't think the talent on this team is overrated....i think it is just being used poorly by the coaching staff. Sutton shouldn't get all the blame....we need to share that with Schottenheimer too.

If you really think about it :

1. Offensive Line : better then the Steelers, Ravens, Pats, Miami, Broncos, and several other contenders
2. Running back : better then Steelers, Ravens, Pats, Broncos and several other contenders
3. Wide Receivers : better then Steerlers, Ravens, Miami, Tenn and several other contenders
4. Quarterback : better then Ravens, Miami (i hope), Tenn, Pats, and several other contenders

The game planning on offense changes week to week. Why, i don't understand.

- Run the ball with Thomas Jones 25 - 30 times a game.
- Run the ball with Leon Washington 5 - 10 times a game.
- Throw 5 - 7 screen plays to Jones & Washington combined.
- Throw 10 - 15 slants and curls a game to Coles, Cotch & Keller.

Pretty much the game plan. Lets see if teams can stop that week in and out. I would feel much better losing if I know we stuck to our strengths and a team beat us by stopping our strengths. What i can't stand is losing on a game plan that is just pathetic and doesn't fit what our team is built for

On defense...we have pretty much been exposed. Spreading out the field and matching up 3rd & 4th WRs & TEs on Linebackers & Safties is killing us.

Only way to fix being exposed is actually blitzing and applying pressure. I don't care if we don't even get a sack, but PLEASE...force some throws by pressure. We are giving QBs ALL THE TIME in the world....and there is only so long a CB can cover...let alone a Linebacker or Saftey.

The blueprint has been laid down by Belechek....spread offense will kill us since we don't apply pressure. This was exposed by New England in 2nd half of our game with them, exposed by Broncos, and now exposed by San Fran.

Luckily, the Bills don't have this ability or viable threats that make us worry about spread. But the Seahawks sure do as well as the Dolphins.

Only way to win now that teams have picked up on our weakness is to change the game plan and APPLY PRESSURE!
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Posted 09 December 2008 - 02:04 AM

our coachin just flat out sucks.... i mean u cant really blame the team for gettin deflated while their losin to teams they should be beatin...they prolly know it themselves that the coachin sucks...i mean i bet if we switched players wit the Patriots (not so much this years but u kno wat i mean),half of them would be in the probowl! i was hopin playoffs but not things are lookin kinda dimm...i feel sorry for you guys who have been goin thru this for 30+ years,ive only been here thru half that and its the same heartwrenchin jets each season...i just hope i get a superbowl win before i die,or my son goes to college,lol...
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Posted 09 December 2008 - 08:55 AM

Ya know what 28 years of falure just has taken its toll, I remember:
the '82 mud bowl in miami
not drafting Marino in '83
the 86 10-1 to 10-6
Rich Kotite
the fake spike
1-15, manning stays in school
up 10-0 and lose in Denver
Herm never playing to win.
Now this choke job
and so many more I did not list.

Some days I think I would rather be the Lyons so I could just not give a crap,
This team just keeps dragging you back in then screwing you over.

and no, I will not root for another team, I have a Jets tat, too much Jets crap and a heart, that sadly keeps getting broken.
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