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HarlemHxC814 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:44 PM) Throw in Ivory/Powell or a pick
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:45 PM) Damn they got Shady
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:45 PM) Do NOT give up Ivory
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:45 PM) Powell ok Ivory HELL NO
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:50 PM) Well that definitely opens the door for CJ Spiller to the JETS now that the Jills got Shady
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:12 AM) Spiller is a joke. 99 % of the time he gets tackled for a loss or a 1 or 2 yard gain maximum. He breaks a run here and there. he had one good year in his whole career. their is a reason he is a backup and not the starter. I suggest you guys that believe Spiller has anything to offer go through the play by play game logs. I did and he is horrendous.
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:14 AM) Spiller cannot break a tackle period. I broke down last years game logs of his runs in a thread last year. He isn't even a pass catching rb. Fred Jackson catches most of the running back passes.
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:20 AM) Unless Spiller comes tremendously cheap no thank you. Wouldn't pay more than a one year deal worth 1 million at most. All he has is speed. Not even on Sproles level. His stats are inflated. For instance he has 10 runs in a game and 9 of them are losses are or 1-2 yard runs. Then he breaks one on the outside for 40-70 yards. Not reliable at all. Even when he break one he is guaranteed a td
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:21 AM) Even in his 1200 yard rushing year he only had 6 tds rushing and 2 receiving
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:23 AM) Spiller is only valuable as a special teams player. Period By year 2010 ) tds rshng 1 rcvng 283 yards rshng
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:31 AM) meant 0 tds rushing in 2010, 2011 4 tds 561 yards rushing 2tds receiving, 2012 6tds 1244 rushing 2 tds receiving, 2013 2tds 933 yards rushing 0tds receiving, 2014 0tds 300 yards rushing 1td receiving.
ROBJETS Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:41 AM) His stats look decent on paper but if you actually go through the game logs of his career like I did his stats are extremely inflated. For instance one game last year he had 10 attempts for 8 yards another 4 attempts for -4 yards, another 6 attempts for 19 yards, another 10 attempts for 25 yards.Another game he had 12 games for 69 yards but 47 of it was on one play. Point is he sucks as a running back. Who wants a rb that gets stopped 99% of the time and breaks one play fir a long run. We need reliable backs not a slim chance of him breaking one
santana Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:06 AM) "NFL released its first 2015 League Year cap report to teams. Teams w/most room: 1) Jaguars $64.058M; 2) Jets $52.901; 3) Raiders $52.598M."
santana Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:06 AM) #2 baby
santana Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:07 AM) WE DID IT!
santana Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:07 AM) thnx idzik
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:09 AM) RE-HIRE IDZIK
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:10 AM) Well in all fairness, when I think about the Jets I do think about number two
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:30 AM) FIRE MACCAGNAN
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:30 AM) The Jaguars hired John Idzik for his expertise in contract negotiating
Chaos Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:36 AM) ppl are going to get paid this offseason.
Chaos Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:36 AM) so many teams have space
Chaos Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:39 AM) eagles have 48M in cap space. Chip is going to go HAM this offseason.
Chaos Icon : (04 March 2015 - 12:35 PM) @RapSheet: The #Bills have traded for Matt Cassel, the team announced.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 12:43 PM) rex is gearing up his team
Jetsfan115 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 12:43 PM) a QB that won't turn it over. 2 stud Rbs for ground and pound and will now start building his defense
azjetfan Icon : (04 March 2015 - 01:49 PM) McCoys agent said the trade is not final and he hinted that he may not be willing to play there.
Chaos Icon : (04 March 2015 - 04:41 PM) @KristianRDyer: Source: If Marcus Mariota is at No. 6, Eagles will make trade with #Jets http://www.metro.us/...-mCQODxZ1xjBVA/ … via @metronewyork #NYJets
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:18 PM) Jets bringing in Kendall Langford and CHris Canty for visits
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 05:20 PM) Cassel blows
Jetsfan115 Icon : (04 March 2015 - 08:07 PM) I wouldn't mind trading down personally
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 09:48 AM) Vince Wilfork will be a FA. Pats will not pick up his $8 million option. Looks like they are gearing up to keep Revis.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:35 AM) Bears shopping Marshall for a mid round pick
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 12:31 PM) What does his contract look like? Offer a 7th conditional 6th if we do something if the $$s are right.
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 12:37 PM) He is almost due 9.6 million this year and has 2 years left. He is defiantly better than Harvin although a little older @ 30
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 12:55 PM) I'd rather sign Maclin or Cobb and then draft a WR early
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 02:55 PM) I am not real big on Cobb. I think he is a poor mans Harvin. Living in WI I watch most Packer games. He does have talent and he is a good receiver but without Rogers he will not be very good.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:27 PM) looks like David Harris will go to the Bills, and I'm fine with that. Hes getting older and declining.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:56 PM) i guess davis takes the MLB spot then pace on one side. who is on the other? barnes
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:56 PM) babin maybe?
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:57 PM) coples moves to DE, richardson to DT, snacks at DT and wilk at DE
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 03:59 PM) its too early to tell. Our roster is not anywhere near where it will be come opening day.
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 04:00 PM) Couples has had the most success when he was in a 4 man front though.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:19 PM) no
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 05:45 PM) CONSPIRACIES AND DREAMS NOTHING BUT CONSPIRACIES AND DREAMS
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#1 User is offline   richkotite2006 Icon

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Posted 29 November 2005 - 08:45 PM

A nose tackle's job to to stop the run. 36 tackles in 11 games is a joke! All you De-rob backers must understand.... Have any of you guys watched him play.... I am not talking the entire defense and what happens after the play, but just him alone. He stands right up and gets no penetration. He has not been double teamed because he is too weak to drive a single player into the backfield.

He has been getting driven into the linebackers. Double teams are you kidding me? He cannot even hold his ground to stuff the run. Usually you'll see him standing around the person who make the tackle after being pushed there by the center. Watch him next game!

This is our #1 pick of which we gave up 2 #1's for? He should dominate for this reason alone. My grandmother could play better defensive line and she is dead! You guys are waiting for this piece of crap to finally do something. 1 big game this year. How many years have we've been terrible against the run 5-6?
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Posted 29 November 2005 - 08:52 PM

#1 - D-Rob isn't the nose, James Reed is.

#2 - Nose Tackles aren't supposed to get alot of tackles. They're supposed to line up across from center and basically dance with him while other guys do important things.
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Posted 29 November 2005 - 08:55 PM

Further more, defensive linemen are NOT supposed to rack up tackles, they are more there to plug holes, rush the passer and eat blocks so the linebackers can make a play.
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Posted 29 November 2005 - 08:58 PM

Other than that, I think you're right. He certainly hasn't played like he's the #4 pick in the draft and he definately wasn't worth all that money that we forked over.
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Posted 29 November 2005 - 08:59 PM

QUOTE (richkotite2006 @ Nov 29 2005, 09:20 PM)
This is our #1 pick of which we gave up 2 #1's for?  He should dominate for this reason alone.  My grandmother could play better defensive line and she is dead!  You guys are waiting for this piece of crap to finally do something.  1 big game this year.  How many years have we've been terrible against the run 5-6?





dam how big was your granny?




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Posted 29 November 2005 - 09:08 PM

QUOTE (richkotite2006 @ Nov 29 2005, 09:20 PM)
A nose tackle's job to to stop the run.  36 tackles in 11 games is a joke! All you De-rob backers must understand.... Have any of you guys watched him play.... I am not talking the entire defense and what happens after the play, but just him alone.  He stands right up and gets no penetration.  He has not been double teamed because he is too weak to drive a single player into the backfield.

He has been getting driven into the linebackers.  Double teams are you kidding me?  He cannot even hold his ground to stuff the run. Usually you'll see him standing around the person who make the tackle after being pushed there by the center.  Watch him next game! 

This is our #1 pick of which we gave up 2 #1's for?  He should dominate for this reason alone.  My grandmother could play better defensive line and she is dead!  You guys are waiting for this piece of crap to finally do something.  1 big game this year.  How many years have we've been terrible against the run 5-6?


last year we were the 5th best team against the run with a real nose tackle, now with a guy that's 5'11 280 at the nose we've been terrible. Next years 2 priorty, get a real NT
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Posted 29 November 2005 - 09:16 PM

I think your the one that doesn't know to much buddy.

DT's are not supposed to get alot of tackles just like jetsohfive said.

To make a great D.T you need a big N.T to take on double teams.

Take it from jetsohfive the guy played Olineman. He knows his shit.

I think it's time to go back to football 101. Learn the basic mechanics.
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Posted 29 November 2005 - 09:32 PM

Wait............does the punter try for field goals?......or..mno wait, the OT does...thats right


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Posted 29 November 2005 - 09:34 PM

I think we found the biggest idiot on this site, congrats on winnign that award mr. Rich Kotite. You have proved post after post, that you are simply an idiot. Since when does Defensive Lineman get a lot of tackles. Most of their tackles, are tackles for a loss, or Sacks. The most of the tackles of course go to the linebackers.
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Posted 29 November 2005 - 10:34 PM

well i guess last year when he dominated for 18 games he didn't have the strength to push back blockers either? yeah right. you guys are so funny. how the hell does D-rob have the strength to dominate last year and this year he can't push anyone back? it must be his age right. he's nearing the 30 mark(sarcasm). whateva. D-rob is a good player. he needs other people around him but he's still a good player.
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Posted 29 November 2005 - 10:36 PM

QUOTE (triple3s @ Nov 29 2005, 11:09 PM)
well i guess last year when he dominated for 18 games he didn't have the strength to push back blockers either? yeah right. you guys are so funny. how the hell does D-rob have the strength to dominate last year and this year he can't push anyone back? it must be his age right. he's nearing the 30 mark(sarcasm). whateva. D-rob is a good player. he needs other people around him but he's still a good player.



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Posted 29 November 2005 - 10:39 PM

Once again, just look at the ass clown's nick name, and you'll know dip shit over here is just trying to start shit. Whatever will piss people off he'll write. And once more, don't give him the satisfaction, ignore butt pirate, please!


PS - sdubb, make sure to put "League Leading 120 Tackles and League Leading 84 solo" in your sig...just makes it all the better!
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Posted 29 November 2005 - 10:41 PM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Nov 29 2005, 11:14 PM)
Once again, just look at the ass clown's nick name, and you'll know dip shit over here is just trying to start shit.  Whatever will piss people off he'll write.  And once more, don't give him the satisfaction, ignore butt pirate, please!
PS - sdubb, make sure to put "League Leading 120 Tackles and League Leading 84 solo" in your sig...just makes it all the better!



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Posted 29 November 2005 - 10:43 PM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Nov 30 2005, 04:14 AM)
Once again, just look at the ass clown's nick name, and you'll know dip shit over here is just trying to start shit.  Whatever will piss people off he'll write.  And once more, don't give him the satisfaction, ignore butt pirate, please!
PS - sdubb, make sure to put "League Leading 120 Tackles and League Leading 84 solo" in your sig...just makes it all the better!


Did you just call him a butt pirate?

lol

Sounds like something Beavis & Butthead would say... lol
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Posted 30 November 2005 - 05:16 AM

Shaun Rogers 22 tackles, less than d-rob are you going to question his ability to play tackle?

i never thought that tackles were important for a big DT, just pressure, collapsing the pocket anf filling gaps and forcing running backs to change their direction
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Posted 30 November 2005 - 07:55 AM

QUOTE (predator94 @ Nov 30 2005, 05:51 AM)
Shaun Rogers    22 tackles, less than d-rob are you going to question his ability to play tackle? 

i never thought that tackles were important for a big DT, just pressure, collapsing the pocket anf filling gaps and forcing running backs to change their direction

Bingo on that last one. That's what lets you know whether or not a defensive lineman is doing his job against the run.
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Posted 30 November 2005 - 08:01 AM

If we sign a big nose tackle this offseason then we should be back up near top for run D.
Another big guy to go alongside DRob and that will open more space for our Linebackers and also would allow us to get more sacks as there will be more to handle with another 315+ lb guy, allowing Ellis,DRob or Abe to get a sack.
I think the past two years D Rob has played well and was a reason why our run D improved so much last year. This year against Tampa he was great and he has played well in other games too
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Posted 30 November 2005 - 09:35 AM

You guys have it all figured out. A bunch on New York geniouses! Keep supporting this pile of dung. I'm sure he'll continue to disappoint for years to come.
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Posted 30 November 2005 - 09:38 AM

I would love to read your point of view about the situation and if you do please do not repeat your ladder comments becasue thats not how it works but i would love to hear it.
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Posted 30 November 2005 - 09:57 AM

QUOTE (triple3s @ Nov 29 2005, 11:09 PM)
well i guess last year when he dominated for 18 games he didn't have the strength to push back blockers either? yeah right. you guys are so funny. how the hell does D-rob have the strength to dominate last year and this year he can't push anyone back? it must be his age right. he's nearing the 30 mark(sarcasm). whateva. D-rob is a good player. he needs other people around him but he's still a good player.


"good player" That is the key, when you away two number one picks to acquire this guy, he should be GREAT by this time, not good.

Furthermore, it was the JETS that were telling us how GREAT he was last year, and how he should be considered for the pro bowl. Just another way to justify Bradway's poor drafting. And that is not to say he is not a good player with potential; because he is. I think the Jets have exaggerated his play so far.
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