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Jetsfan115 Icon : (27 August 2014 - 05:43 PM) injuries and poor QB play aren't good for a WR to develop
Jetsman05 Icon : (27 August 2014 - 06:08 PM) 115 and Hill. Lol!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (27 August 2014 - 10:18 PM) the excuses, Hill is just a terrible football player. no debate, just a fact. guy is soft as shit as well
Jetsfan115 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:43 AM) right cause all our other WRs were lighting it up
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 07:04 PM) Hill is useless bro lol
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:05 PM) All I can say I streamed this game and if anyone thinks about recording it from NFL Network at 4pm Eastern Saturday.....DONT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:07 PM) This game was pure sh1t. Even though it was back up players the Jets got totally destroyed in this game. After seeing this game Im really worried about the Jets starting core because these backup guys looked like they shouldn't have even been on the field at all. I just hope the starters are 3000 times better than these guys that played in game 4
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:09 PM) The Jets got horse f*cked by the Eagles in this game.
ganggreen2003 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:24 PM) we are hosed in the secondary
ganggreen2003 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:26 PM) we need to cut this assclown patterson
ganggreen2003 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:34 PM) did Hill get cut yet?
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) lol. We might need to look at the Eagles cuts for possible 2nd and 3rd stringers
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) If they keep ZHill after this game I will be shocked.
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:38 PM) Philly gave us a worse ass whipping than Detroit gave Buffalo. only difference is we scored
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:42 PM) Im just wondering what manning will put up on our secondary? 70?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:12 PM) who cares about getting destroyed in a preseason game, especially the 4th one. Most of these guys won't even make the team
ganggreen2003 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:15 PM) Hill cut yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:18 PM) FIRE IDZIK
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:21 PM) Yeah this game means nothing...except to Stephen Hill (who fumbled lol) and 115
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:23 PM) Hill is a bum, hes pretty much never shown much football skill. The Jets fucked up big time taking him over Alshon Jeffery.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:29 PM) I'm still pissed off about that
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:43 PM) Its not that Im worried about the preseason game itself. i could care less about that. Its the fact of how bad we got destroyed. And some of the guys will be on the team and others on the fringe so getting destroyed like that doesnt fill me with confidence
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:44 PM) It would be one thing if it was just the second half or 4th quarter but this was the whole game. especially getting destroyed in the 1st quarter and at least part of the 2nd where a lot of the guys will be on the team
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:48 PM) 2nd and 3rd stringers making the team had something to prove and even our 2nd stringers got owned so yes Im very concerned. The first stringers need breaks and also if some of them get injured they need to step up. So no after this performance start to finish Im very concerned
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:39 AM) Meh...you're reading too much into it
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:40 AM) Even in seasons where the Jets blew, I haven't seen anyone refer to the preseason to complain. Ever.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:15 AM) fire izdik http://theredzone.or...rs/Default.aspx
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:17 AM) I picture Rob and 115 as real life friends
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:01 PM) Holmes can still play, problem is that hes also a cancer. He wore out his welcome with the Jets
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:23 PM) did Hill get cut?
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:00 PM) Haven't seen anything yet
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 09:06 PM) Whos ready for the season!!? WOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 11:54 AM) Hill has been cut
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 01:24 PM) Who wants to take bets he ends up in NE
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 02:18 PM) We'll I guess you guys are fools then in thinking im a fool for being concerned. Do any of you even know that in 2013 the Jets gave up the most passing yards in the franchise since 1986? And our secondary right now is worse than last year right now. To not be concerned is utterly foolish.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 02:19 PM) Unless our d-line has a monstrous year odds are the team will be eaten up in the pass. Every team will game plan to exploit the pass this year.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 02:56 PM) Patterson got cut
flood555 Icon : (Today, 03:24 PM) Patterson must have been a huge cancer to get cut
flood555 Icon : (Today, 03:26 PM) is there a midseason draft? we need a DB!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 03:58 PM) Our week 1 starting CBs will be Antonio Allen and Darrin Walls... wow
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 03:58 PM) interesting that Simms and Boyd were released
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 04:00 PM) No more McIntyre
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:20 PM) Pretty sure some of these cuts like Simms and McIntyre were made for removing some more cap space to try to find some decent corners and maybe another reliable wr. Possibly get some players cheap. I'd say the current 53 roster will change a good bit in the next week.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:23 PM) I just hope Geno doesn't get hurt or we are horse f*cked. Vick sure as hell can't stay healthy for a full season. I guess the FO could also be think of picking up an old vet cut as 3rd qb. Simms is ok but I'd never trust him to win a regular season game if he was put in.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:25 PM) Anyway it's going yo be an interesting week.
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Posted 17 March 2009 - 03:45 PM

QUOTE (The Reverend @ Mar 17 2009, 01:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do you have a link or a source?


No, I got it from another forum. There wasnt a link or anything with it. So dont look to much into it. Rumors are flying all over right now lol you know?
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Posted 17 March 2009 - 04:47 PM

Jay Cutlers college career Vs Brett Ratliff


Jay Cutler
------CMP--ATT--YDS-CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT
2004--147--241--1844-61.0 --7.65-80--10 -5 24----134.81
2005--273--462--3073-59.1 --6.65-47--21 -9 24----126.07

Brett Ratliff
------Att--Comp--Pct----Yds-----Td----Int-----Rating
2005 77---48-----62.3----642-----8-----2-----161.5
2006 391 228----58.3----2,796 ---23----9-----133.2

Ratty is lookin' sexy to me lately.

How was he ever undrafted?
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Posted 17 March 2009 - 05:30 PM

QUOTE (S-Dubb @ Mar 17 2009, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Jay Cutlers college career Vs Brett Ratliff


Jay Cutler
------CMP--ATT--YDS-CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT
2004--147--241--1844-61.0 --7.65-80--10 -5 24----134.81
2005--273--462--3073-59.1 --6.65-47--21 -9 24----126.07

Brett Ratliff
------Att--Comp--Pct----Yds-----Td----Int-----Rating
2005 77---48-----62.3----642-----8-----2-----161.5
2006 391 228----58.3----2,796 ---23----9-----133.2

Ratty is lookin' sexy to me lately.

How was he ever undrafted?

Because Ratty only started his senior season in college for Utah in a spread offense...



Junior college transfer who took over starting duties as a senior, Pos:ting 58.3%/2,796/23/9.

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Nice-sized pocket passer with marginal skill for the next level
. Patient, buys time for receivers and finds the open pass-catcher on the field. Sells the ball fakes, throws with an over-the-top delivery and puts zip on the short throws, getting the ball through the tight spots.

Neg:

Takes most of his snaps out of the shotgun and is slow dropping into the pocket when lined up behind center. Does not have a quick release. Long passes hang in the air. Indecisive when pressured and makes questionable decisions.

He was still projected to be drafted in th 5th to 7th round....maybe after Alex Smith, teams shyed away...

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Posted 17 March 2009 - 05:56 PM

QUOTE (S-Dubb @ Mar 17 2009, 04:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Jay Cutlers college career Vs Brett Ratliff


Jay Cutler
------CMP--ATT--YDS-CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT
2004--147--241--1844-61.0 --7.65-80--10 -5 24----134.81
2005--273--462--3073-59.1 --6.65-47--21 -9 24----126.07

Brett Ratliff
------Att--Comp--Pct----Yds-----Td----Int-----Rating
2005 77---48-----62.3----642-----8-----2-----161.5
2006 391 228----58.3----2,796 ---23----9-----133.2

Ratty is lookin' sexy to me lately.

How was he ever undrafted?

Cutler played better teams and was on a terrible team to begin with. Also Ratliff played in a spread offense that puts up QB's numbers.
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Posted 17 March 2009 - 06:34 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Mar 17 2009, 06:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Cutler played better teams and was on a terrible team to begin with. Also Ratliff played in a spread offense that puts up QB's numbers.


Thats your excuse?.. still doesn't make merit towards how come Ratty never even got drafted.

Make whatever kind of excuses you want the numbers are there.
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Posted 17 March 2009 - 06:39 PM

QUOTE (Leon#29 @ Mar 17 2009, 06:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Because Ratty only started his senior season in college for Utah in a spread offense...



Junior college transfer who took over starting duties as a senior, Pos:ting 58.3%/2,796/23/9.

Pos:

Nice-sized pocket passer with marginal skill for the next level
. Patient, buys time for receivers and finds the open pass-catcher on the field. Sells the ball fakes, throws with an over-the-top delivery and puts zip on the short throws, getting the ball through the tight spots.

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Takes most of his snaps out of the shotgun and is slow dropping into the pocket when lined up behind center. Does not have a quick release. Long passes hang in the air. Indecisive when pressured and makes questionable decisions.

He was still projected to be drafted in th 5th to 7th round....maybe after Alex Smith, teams shyed away...


A lot similar to a scouting report from a guy up in New England when he was getting drafted I bet.

I don't know about the next guy but I gut checked mysekf I think we should roll the dice with Ratliff and Clemens. Too much at stake with Cutler and it's not like he'll have a Brandon Marshall to throw to.

Call me crazy but I think it's too much. The pretty girl is always the best choice.
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Posted 17 March 2009 - 06:47 PM

QUOTE (S-Dubb @ Mar 17 2009, 06:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thats your excuse?.. still doesn't make merit towards how come Ratty never even got drafted.

Make whatever kind of excuses you want the numbers are there.

Its not a excuse its facts. He has solid numbers playing a weak schedule in a pass friendly offense. He obviously didn't impress anyone at his workouts enough for anyone to take notice. Remember the Jets almost cut him as he was horrible at first. But they saw improvements one day and decided to hold onto him.


But still you can't look at the numbers of these kind of players. They aren't worth comparing as they were in two different situations. (Ratliff and Culter)
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Posted 17 March 2009 - 06:53 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Mar 17 2009, 07:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Its not a excuse its facts. He has solid numbers playing a weak schedule in a pass friendly offense. He obviously didn't impress anyone at his workouts enough for anyone to take notice. Remember the Jets almost cut him as he was horrible at first. But they saw improvements one day and decided to hold onto him.


But still you can't look at the numbers of these kind of players. They aren't worth comparing as they were in two different situations. (Ratliff and Culter)



Perhaps but the bottom line to my argument is Cutler will be to much. We having pressing needs at DE soon. T.J might hold out and how about a true number 1.

Clemens very well could have been (should have been ) a 1st rd pick.
Ratliff is a guy trying to make a name. Their both on our roster and deserve a shot. I really think it's too much to give up and lets face it. IF Cutler isn't here by mandatory workouts it won't matter who we have under center. Cutler will need time to learn the system with him or without him were looking at 8-8
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 01:28 AM

Ratliff's stats are what they are. It's obvious why he didn't get drafted. He didn't perform bad by any means, but he he only started for one year and he didn't get standout numbers.
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 10:16 AM

Jay Cutler-QB-Broncos Mar. 18 - 11:12 am et

According to SI's Peter King, the Broncos are "hanging on to Jay Cutler and won't entertain discussion for him at this time."

The Broncos' current stance is to try to meet with Cutler sans agent Bus Cook, hoping the situation can be remedied. King believes the relationship is now beyond repair and that Cutler will be traded, with Denver's stance changing before the NFL Draft. King suggests the Bucs and the Jets as the "most fervent suitors."
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Sal Paolantonio commenting on the difference in the Ryan and Mangini atmospheres in the building:
"It's like going from Alcatraz to Dorney Park."

It is better to destroy than create what is meaningless, so the picture will not be finished.
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 11:01 AM

QUOTE (The Reverend @ Mar 18 2009, 10:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Jay Cutler-QB-Broncos Mar. 18 - 11:12 am et

According to SI's Peter King, the Broncos are "hanging on to Jay Cutler and won't entertain discussion for him at this time."

The Broncos' current stance is to try to meet with Cutler sans agent Bus Cook, hoping the situation can be remedied. King believes the relationship is now beyond repair and that Cutler will be traded, with Denver's stance changing before the NFL Draft. King suggests the Bucs and the Jets as the "most fervent suitors."
Source: SI.com

I doubt they hold onto him, they will end up trading him. How can you hold onto a QB who won't ever trust his HC again? Thats just asking to have a losing season, their owner even said that he sticks by the coaching staff and is disappointed that he may lose his star QB. Cutler will be traded IMO.



And Cutler isn't a bad attitude or w/e, he has every right to be upset. His HC is screwing him around! Cutler has made an attempt to fix this, but McDaniels has been leading him that he is going to trade him.


As far as Kerry Rhodes hating Cutler, I could give a crap. As long as our offense is on page with him Rhodes can hate him all he wants, a QB and safety don't have to be close at all.



I was content with staying with what we had because I didn't like any of the FA QBs out there, and I doubt we can land Matt Stafford or Mark Sanchez.

I have little confidence in Brett Ratliff, I don't know him well enough. He did good against 3rd/practice squad type players. But what will he do in a REAL game? I have more confidence in Kellen Clemens right now because I have seen him play, and I don't think hes terrible. He was in a lose situation. He is the guy I think will end up being the starter.

But when you have a shot at a 25 year old franchise QB, you have to check it out. QB are way too important in this league, it is the MOST important position. I have seen 2 teams win SB without a quality QB, the Ravens and Bucs. But that was because their defenses played so good that they didn't need to score TDs. THe Bucs had like 3 INTs for TDs in the SB I think? The chances of this team winning a SB without a QB is small.

Jay Cutler is a extremely good QB, he is good in the pocket and is extremely accurate and has a great arm. Only has been in the league 3 years and never had under a 86 QB rating, thats pretty darn impressive in my book.

I wanted Jay Cutler in the 06 draft, and I will gladly take him still. Even if we give up 3 draft picks I would do it. Because once you have a QB that can play in this league, everything falls in place. We have a really good defense building up, but if we had a real QB we can be a force in this league! Cutler's INts would drop because he won't have to throw the ball 45-50 times a game like he did with the Broncos.

Cutler also has a 95 QB rating when behind and in the 4th quarter.

Our situation is good here, we have a HC that can communicate with his players. Players will trust him, they will want to play for him. Not like the coaches under the Belichick tree that seem to have a hard time communicating with players.
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 11:13 AM


Link: Frontrunners for Cutler?
Posted on March 18th, 2009 by Bassett Although Peter King wrote yesterday that the Broncos are holding onto Jay Cutler tightly right now, he thinks that two teams — the Jets and the Bucs — are the most likely suitors.

The Jets proved last year they’ll stop at nothing to get what they want. What they wanted last year was Brett Favre, who turned out to be a one-year fix that cost New York its third-round pick in the 2009 draft. What they’ll want this year would be, they hope, a 10-year fix, and would cost far, far more. Owner Woody Johnson and GM Mike Tannenbaum will not be intimidated by the price for Cutler. I think New York, at the end of the day, will be tempted to pay more for Cutler than anyone else.

Would Denver be swayed by a package of first- and second-round picks, plus either of the young New York quarterbacks — Brett Ratliff or Kellen Clemens? I believe it may come to that.


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Posted 18 March 2009 - 11:33 AM

With Mike Tannenbaum at GM, you can never be too sure what this team is going to do. But you do know he'll stop at nothing to make this team better.
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 01:29 PM

Just give Clemens and Ratliff a chance to battle it out, I really like all ive seend from Clemens and he won games with an aweful team with no o line. Draft him a wr and let the offense run and the defense play d, when you need him to win the game in the 4th quarter hell be able to lead the team on a drive.
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 02:50 PM

For all you experts, heres word on ratliff from someone who actually watched the games of him in college.

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2. Did he run the Urban Meyer spread option his entire college career with the Utes, or did he ever operate out of more conventional pro formations?

Utah had run the spread option for the entire 2005 season, since Johnson was a spread-option quarterback. But Ratliff wasn't and had pretty much established himself as a pro-style quarterback. The final two games of the 2005 season saw little adjustments, but in 2006, with Ratliff not as conditioned on the spread, Utah adjusted its offense and built it around his strengths. There were bits of the spread option being used by the Utes, but not at the extent you saw during the 2003, 2004 and 2005 seasons (or the last two seasons with Johnson again leading Utah). With the lack of a spread-option quarterback, Ludwig opted to run a hybrid offense and often would line Ratliff up under center or in the 2006 season, use Eric Weddle for the option aspect of the offense.


http://www.ganggreennation.com/2009/3/16/7...ok-at-brett-rat

Its a 5 question interview, thats question #2.

So he wasnt a spread offense QB, which means those numbers are nice!
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 03:11 PM

S-dubb: No faith in Cotchery or in getting somebody for him to throw to through the draft?

Brandon Marshall is a thug, UCF represent; but Jerricho is good too.
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 03:41 PM

QUOTE (RaphAC @ Mar 18 2009, 02:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
For all you experts, heres word on ratliff from someone who actually watched the games of him in college.



http://www.ganggreennation.com/2009/3/16/7...ok-at-brett-rat

Its a 5 question interview, thats question #2.

So he wasnt a spread offense QB, which means those numbers are nice!


Only reason I thought he was in a spread offense is because I knew Utah ran it, and the videos I've seen of Ratliff in college had him in the gun most of the time.

Also I read that he didn't pick up the offense that fast. Maybe a reason he wasn't drafted, he did take a while to show some signs here first year he was almost cut by the Jets.

I'm not sure about Ratliff, I need to see him more before I think hes a Tony Romo story.
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 09:20 PM

id quickly give up Clemen's to get Cutler...Clemens is another Chad,he panics under pressure,only unlike Chad instead of throwin short passes,he thinks he can just bomb it down the field and pray for someone to catch it,f*** that...Keep Brett get rid of Clemens and bring Cutler here!!!
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Posted 19 March 2009 - 12:34 AM

QUOTE (SokeSleezy @ Mar 18 2009, 10:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
id quickly give up Clemen's to get Cutler...Clemens is another Chad,he panics under pressure,only unlike Chad instead of throwin short passes,he thinks he can just bomb it down the field and pray for someone to catch it,f*** that...Keep Brett get rid of Clemens and bring Cutler here!!!


My question to you sir is, do you watch Jet football?
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Posted 19 March 2009 - 12:38 AM

QUOTE (S-Dubb @ Mar 19 2009, 01:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My question to you sir is, do you watch Jet football?



Guess not. Clemens was good in the 4th quarters of the 8 games he started.
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