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MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) good
MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
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Is Vinny A Hall Of Famer

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Posted 15 May 2005 - 11:03 AM

QUOTE (Cmart28Abe94 @ May 15 2005, 10:27 AM)
u no wut GO *beep* URSELF.  U not bakin dat shit up wit nuttin u say he wasnt a good QB jus cuz of his ratin.  all QB's hav their strengths. theres guys lik young montana an pennington in this day that throw for good percentage passin.  Then u got Vinny Marino an Culpepper who hav their strengths in TD passes an yards an shit lik dat.  an ill name vinnys grate years
1989
1995- he did good for only playin 13 games
1996
1998
2000
2001- he still got his team to the playoffs
2004 was decent but he threw for a lot of yards

Interceptions was his only problem.  Evry QB has 1 problem. Noones perfect.  Vinny kuld of had more other grate years but they wer cut short cuz of injury



coula shoulda woulda..he doesnt belong in the hall of fame, get over it

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Posted 15 May 2005 - 11:30 AM

Well his stats do stand up, and that's why I'll say YES. He got the Jets pretty far, there was the Monday Night Miracle, in which he threw 236 yards and 4TD in the last quarter. He has over 40,000 passing yards, everyone that does who's eligable for the Hall of Fame got there, he got quite a bit of TDs, but does throw a lot of INT. But so does Favre, I'd say Favre throws more, yet he is easily a Hall of Famer, so Vinny is in there, barely.
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Posted 15 May 2005 - 01:18 PM

Cmart why should he go *beep* himself? He was trying to help you, not attack you. Lighten up man.
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Posted 15 May 2005 - 02:20 PM

Vinny is nothing more than a solid QB who was fortunate enough to play for 18 seasons, he was nothing special and the fact that some people think he is a Hall of Famer is just funny.
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Posted 15 May 2005 - 02:46 PM

I don't think he's a Hall of Famer because he played too many years without being the best. He never was even the best QB in the league in any of his years in the NFL. I think a Hall of Fame QB should at least be the best QB for a few years in his respective Conference.
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Posted 15 May 2005 - 03:37 PM

QUOTE (Chadforpresidentin08 @ May 15 2005, 12:05 PM)
Well his stats do stand up, and that's why I'll say YES. He got the Jets pretty far, there was the Monday Night Miracle, in which he threw 236 yards and 4TD in the last quarter. He has over 40,000 passing yards, everyone that does who's eligable for the Hall of Fame got there, he got quite a bit of TDs, but does throw a lot of INT. But so does Favre, I'd say Favre throws more, yet he is easily a Hall of Famer, so Vinny is in there, barely.



Thank You. Now i no we got some real Jets Fans on da board instead of these *beep*in faggets who think they no footbal. u ppl who say he doesnt hav a chance shuld not be able to wach the game of footbal. u *beep*in pretender footbal fans only think hall of famers hav to be these stand out guys. THEY DUNT. Vinny iz grate jus lik evry other HOF thats y Vinny belongs in da HOF

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Posted 15 May 2005 - 03:42 PM

QUOTE (HermIsMyHero @ May 15 2005, 03:21 PM)
I don't think he's a Hall of Famer because he played too many years without being the best. He never was even the best QB in the league in any of his years in the NFL. I think a Hall of Fame QB should at least be the best QB for a few years in his respective Conference.


Steve Young was only the best For one year an hes in the HOF and hes still a grate QB who deserved hiz HOF induction but u dunt hav to be the best for a while. U jus hav ta be a grate player with grate number. an thats wut Vinny has. Now im not sayin hes the best but hes grate enough an worthy of the HOF.
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Posted 15 May 2005 - 03:46 PM

I could buy him getting in if he was a starter the next five years and still finished with a seventy something career QB rating. By then he would be top five in almost every category and would have one of the longer starting careers of any player. But that isn't going to happen.

Still, I think some players get blown off for just having a really long, solid career. At some point, length of career should be a factor. How much? I don't know for sure, but I think it should be.

And one other thing, if Bledsoe ever gets in (and some people think he will), then Vinny should be in. Bledsoe is a horrible (okay, slightly-less-than-average) QB who has had good offenses and still not been great.
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Posted 15 May 2005 - 03:50 PM

CMart, your responses demonstrate that you are the one who is clueless when it comes to football.

You call those rationale fans of this site who disagree with you "pretenders" diminishes your points. Look at the stats, please. As mentioned before, Jeff George has a better career completion %, TD-Int ratio, completion average, and QB rating than Vinny. You compare Vinny to Steve Young, who has had 7 seasons better than Vinny's best season in 1998.

Then there's ChadforPresident08, who I hope was not serious when he compared Vinny to Favre. Favre's stats are better than Vinny's across the board. I'm a Jets fan, but I also am an objective observer of the NFL, and if Cmart was an objective observer, he would not persist in his argument that Vinny is a Hall of Famer.

Finally, Vinny does not have great numbers. He has had one good year (in 1998) and has accumulated the yardage simply by being in the NFL for 18 years.
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Posted 15 May 2005 - 04:00 PM

dude cmart.....learn how to spell. what the hell is grate? do u mean great?

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Posted 15 May 2005 - 04:11 PM

QUOTE (extmenace @ May 15 2005, 04:35 PM)
dude cmart.....learn how to spell. what the hell is grate? do u mean great?




HEY Y DUNT U SHUT DA *beep* UP fagget
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QUOTE (SMC @ May 15 2005, 04:25 PM)
CMart, your responses demonstrate that you are the one who is clueless when it comes to football. 

You call those rationale fans of this site who disagree with you "pretenders" diminishes your points.  Look at the stats, please.  As mentioned before, Jeff George has a better career completion %,  TD-Int ratio, completion average, and QB rating than Vinny.  You compare Vinny to Steve Young, who has had 7 seasons better than Vinny's best season in 1998.

Then there's ChadforPresident08, who I hope was not serious when he compared Vinny to Favre.  Favre's stats are better than Vinny's across the board.  I'm a Jets fan, but I also am an objective observer of the NFL, and if Cmart was an objective observer, he would not persist in his argument that Vinny is a Hall of Famer.

Finally, Vinny does not have great numbers.  He has had one good year (in 1998) and has accumulated the yardage simply by being in the NFL for 18 years.



Hey u *beep*in dushbag ass *beep*. Jus cuz we tru Jet fans an u no *beep*in shit abut footbal an we no more an alot. U dunt even deserve ta post. so y dunt u go *beep*in cry an jerk off about how Jeff George iz actually good. He suks, hes a 1st round bust. he had only 2 decent seasons. ur a discrace to all the Jet fans on this board. Im here tryin to be freindly to talk about Jets footbal an wen i hav one opinion about somtin yall be jumpin up on me. Jus leave this board 4 tru Jet fans cuz u jus som fagget ass pretender mutha *beep*a.
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Posted 15 May 2005 - 04:41 PM

Cmart, don't give me this garbage about being a true Jets fan. You say you're trying to be friendly, but you curse at everyone who disagrees with you. I'm not leaving and I won't tell you to leave. This guy's a "fagget" or "dushbag" is really juvenile and guys who are 12 years old on this forum have acted like adults, so should you. All I ask is that you show a smidgen of maturity in your posts.

By the way, I've forgotten more football then you'll ever know and it's irrational fans like yourself that give Jets fans a bad name. Do me a favor, learn some football before you spurt your venemous nonsense on this board. Your Vinny is a Hall of Famer has no basis in fact and other members have called you on it.
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QUOTE (SMC @ May 15 2005, 05:16 PM)
Cmart, don't give me this garbage about being a true Jets fan.  You say you're trying to be friendly, but you curse at everyone who disagrees with you.  I'm not leaving and I won't tell you to leave.  This guy's a "fagget" or "dushbag" is really juvenile and guys who are 12 years old on this forum have acted like adults, so should you.  All I ask is that you show a smidgen of maturity in your posts. 

By the way, I've forgotten more football then you'll ever know and it's irrational fans like yourself that give Jets fans a bad name.  Do me a favor, learn some football before you spurt your venemous nonsense on this board.  Your Vinny is a Hall of Famer has no basis in fact and other members have called you on it.



UR WRONG. u giv Jet Fans a bad name i no more footbal than u will ever no an im freindly to evryone that repects me. not pretender Jet fans lik u. so stop startin shit im prolly the biggest Jet fan on this board U HAV NO *beep*IN CLUE

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Posted 15 May 2005 - 04:56 PM

i am sry to all the other real jet fans on this board but we need to get rid of this pretender SMC. he has no respect for anyone an nos shit about footbal. hes prolly one of those faggots who tailgates the game while not even havin a ticket to the game an not even knowin anything about the jets. i hav no problems with anyone else jus this faggot who thinks Jeff George iz betta than Vinny.
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Posted 15 May 2005 - 05:00 PM

Whoa guys, this is starting to get more geared into who are jerks around here, let me talk about that then the Vinny and Favre thing.
CMART28ABE94, I think you're really cool, you can easily be a great addition here which I really think you are, but I think you should really stop swearing at everyone, as SMC said, that makes us look bad. Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean you have to blow a fuse, that will happen at pretty much every thread. Just don't do that and people will realize how cool you can really be. Remeber, if we aren't banned we are true Jet fans.
SMC, I understand you like it when people spell correctly, and I do too, and I try my best to do so. But there are a lot of others, and don't make CMART28ABE94 an example, you can find many. SDLJets and MikeGangGreenFan2 (Honey) are two great guys, but they miss-spell quite a few words, but do we insult them> No. Which is good, those 2 are 2 of my favorites around here. It's okay to misspell some words, butdon't crazy, and you shouldn't always do that CMART28ABE94, just a few that make it easy, like instead of got to go you can say gotta go. Do you really think I'm grown up and as smart as an adult SMC?
But Favre has 226 carrer INT, Vinny 255. Yet Favre has been throwing a lot of them lately, and Vinny won't play that much, so Favre in my mind could throw around 18, Vinny like 2, that makes them pretty simular, and they ae a little, considering Vinny has played quite a bit longer and won't do so, and Favre will. But Favre is without a doubt better. But guys, peace be with you.
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Posted 15 May 2005 - 05:07 PM

C4P08, I wasn't the one who criticized Cmart for spelling errors, that's his writing style. My point was for everyone to act mature, which Cmart has not been doing by cursing at everyone who disagrees with him and saying people should be banned for not being true Jets fans. I use my brain and do you and we all try to put forth rational arguments rather than being cheerleaders.

On Favre, look at the TD to Int ratio (376 to 226) compared to Vinny's (268-255). Favre has 100 more TDs than Vinny in 5 less seasons.
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Posted 15 May 2005 - 05:15 PM

QUOTE (VinnyTheGinny @ May 15 2005, 02:01 AM)
I love Vinny...my all time favorite player.  But unfortunately, he's not a Hall of Famer. 

I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt it.


You hit it right on the head bud, he's my favorite player too, but just not good enough for the hall of fame.
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Posted 15 May 2005 - 05:34 PM

Well I'll just say that it was for those criticized him on it, but hey CMART, just try and do a little better at spelling okay buddy. And most important don't curse at everyone, that's how people get to dislike you.
Wow, I didn't see that, but I was just comparing each other INT numbers. Vinny is a Hall of Famer though.
But I never knew there was all of this love for Testaverde still in all of you, I mean we've got Chad on our team now. I still love him too.
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Posted 15 May 2005 - 08:29 PM

QUOTE (Chadforpresidentin08 @ May 15 2005, 06:09 PM)
Well I'll just say that it was for those criticized him on it, but hey CMART, just try and do a little better at spelling okay buddy. And most important don't curse at everyone, that's how people get to dislike you.
Wow, I didn't see that, but I was just comparing each other INT numbers. Vinny is a Hall of Famer though.
But I never knew there was all of this love for Testaverde still in all of you, I mean we've got Chad on our team now. I still love him too.




Listen I dunt get wuts wrong wit ma talkin. Yall undastand it. An Vinny iz a HOF an he wuz ma 1st fav. player wen i started payin attention to footbal. An chad iz a grate QB an one day will be a HOF as well as Vinny. An SMC were kool but wen u start shit theres gona be shit.
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