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9:30Am Jets vs Fish over in England. U wot m8?
Smedsthejet Icon : (27 September 2015 - 03:25 PM) That was ugly
Smedsthejet Icon : (27 September 2015 - 03:26 PM) Hopefully the team can put on a better show next week in London!
ganggreen2003 Icon : (27 September 2015 - 04:06 PM) the only positive is that the loss was to a NON conference team
ganggreen2003 Icon : (27 September 2015 - 04:06 PM) but that was such a hard game to watch with the O being non-existent for 3/4 of the game
ganggreen2003 Icon : (27 September 2015 - 04:07 PM) and WTF was Marshall thinking when he pitched it
ganggreen2003 Icon : (27 September 2015 - 06:22 PM) Time to SQUISH THE FISH in the Land of Fish 'n Chips next Sunday
ganggreen2003 Icon : (27 September 2015 - 06:23 PM) Dolphins got their teeth knocked in by Buffalo
ganggreen2003 Icon : (27 September 2015 - 06:32 PM) Is everyone so embarrassed with this Loss that they aren't bothering logging on?
ganggreen2003 Icon : (27 September 2015 - 06:32 PM) Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?
MikeGangGree... Icon : (27 September 2015 - 07:05 PM) f*** US
MikeGangGree... Icon : (27 September 2015 - 07:23 PM) AHHHHHHH the jets are 1-4 when I go see them but the Giants are 4-0 when I see them!!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (27 September 2015 - 07:23 PM) why of why!!!!!!!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (28 September 2015 - 11:07 AM) i was too pissed after the game.
azjetfan Icon : (28 September 2015 - 01:53 PM) I'm not to worried after one loss. The Eagles were mere prepared and just out performed us. They are not the better team. Hopefully this can be a wake up call for us going to play the Phinz.
azjetfan Icon : (28 September 2015 - 01:54 PM) I still see us as a 9-10 win team. Us making the playoffs will be dependent on how the wild card shoes up. Pats look amazing so far. Better than last year
Jetsfan115 Icon : (28 September 2015 - 02:17 PM) yeah i think we are still a playoff team. the AFC isn't looking too strong. the pats look by far the best in the NFL bout outside of them, indy, denver, bal, all don't look good.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (28 September 2015 - 02:17 PM) pitt lost ben, could cost them the divison
Jetsfan115 Icon : (28 September 2015 - 02:18 PM) right now it's den, indy, cincy, and NE to take the divisons and we'll be fighting for WC spots with pitt, oak, buff, and KC. I don't think Oak is good enough to win more then 7 games so us, buff, pitt and KC will be fighting for 2 spots IMO
ROBJETS Icon : (28 September 2015 - 02:28 PM) Steelers could be out with the qb injury. I dont expect him back anytime soon. he is tough though so who knows maybe they will shoot him up with pain killers in the knee and fit him with a steel knee brace. The Raiders dont look bad either and The Chargers have a history of pulling a rabbit out of their a$$ in December.
ROBJETS Icon : (28 September 2015 - 02:32 PM) The Raiders may be a question mark but Carr is good and they have a legit rb. The only ones Im counting out right now are the Browns. Titans, Jags, Ravens, Texans, Dolphins in the AFC. to early to tell for the rest of the teams
Jetsman05 Icon : (28 September 2015 - 03:09 PM) painkillers and a steel brace
Jetsman05 Icon : (28 September 2015 - 03:09 PM) f*** ya
Jetsfan115 Icon : (28 September 2015 - 03:21 PM) bionic knee, make him robo-ben
ROBJETS Icon : (28 September 2015 - 03:47 PM) Yeah its not likely to happen but I'm pretty sure Ben has wore those steeal knee braces before and played. I'm sure you have seen them. Even a few running backs have used them. They basically only let the knee pivot back and not forward or to the sides. They do limit some range of motion but if its a sprain he can uses a brace and play if he can trot or run at all without damaging it further
ROBJETS Icon : (28 September 2015 - 04:02 PM) I actually have one of those steel pivot braces myself but its older and nowhere advanced as what they where in the NFL. I sprained my knee like 6 or 7 years back and the brace I have is two steel bars connected to a circular steel pivot. One on each side of the brace. Covered in padding that goes completely around the knee. The pad it self is is padded and a stretchable material around the steel and it has steel rung that Velcro straps fit through then strap to the Velcro in front. Its made to wear on bare skin or over pants. On bare skin its more stable but your skin gets raw in just one day. Works so so over pants and doesnt cause the skin to get sore but also the brace moves around some.
ROBJETS Icon : (28 September 2015 - 04:08 PM) They actually work really good. My right knee hurt like hell and was limping when I took off the brace but when I wore it most of the pain went away and I could even run with it on as long as I didn't tweak my knee to the sides at all. they work really good but aren't perfect. Just saying that they do help so if Ben has any mobility and can put normal weight on his knee he can play with a brace
azjetfan Icon : (28 September 2015 - 06:54 PM) I see Rob is writing books in the banter again
azjetfan Icon : (28 September 2015 - 06:55 PM) meanwhile the Bears are having a fire sale. Do they have a RT
ROBJETS Icon : (28 September 2015 - 07:05 PM) Well I sure hope he comes back soon. Im screwed. Down to Palmer in a 2 qb active each week money league. Lost Coleman Falcons rb to broken ribs, have Eddie Lacy Banged up. Drafted Gurley as a backup but he isn't playing yet. 4 max rb`s per team So screwed on rbs.Tried to start Crowell didnt work out to well..... 3 max qb`s per team Roethlesburger and Romo are down. started 201 until this week I lost bad. And for the forseeable future my team is f*cked
ROBJETS Icon : (28 September 2015 - 07:06 PM) meant 2-0 until this week now 2-1 and probably going on a losing streak
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 September 2015 - 09:03 PM) 1 more game until we get Sheldon Richardson back on the DL, IMO hes our best defensive linemen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 September 2015 - 09:04 PM) Ryan Fitzpatrick is awful, constantly underthrowing on the deep passes. WRs would have a step and have to go backwards for it
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 September 2015 - 09:04 PM) Fitzpatrick is a quality backup, but shouldn't be starting for a full season
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 September 2015 - 10:58 AM) I think we need Rich back big time
ROBJETS Icon : (29 September 2015 - 03:41 PM) Yeah we do but the defense took the Eagles offense to lightly as shown by shutting them down after they were up 24-7. We need Decker and Ivory back more. Especially Decker so Marshall isn't double and triple teamed
ROBJETS Icon : (29 September 2015 - 03:42 PM) With Decker back it will open up the run game and screen pass runs more even if we don't have Ivory. After Marshall none of the other Wr's are consistent
ROBJETS Icon : (29 September 2015 - 03:46 PM) And I was right and wrong about Ben . I thought he had a knee brace on before playing qb in the NFL but it apparently was another qb. On NFL Live they say Ben is out estimated 4-6 weeks but he said he will be wearing one of those braces I mentioned and said he never wore one before. As long as he doesn't tweak the knee by lie hits or from sacks he should be fine Abington with a brace when he comes back
ROBJETS Icon : (29 September 2015 - 03:46 PM) Meant low hits
ROBJETS Icon : (29 September 2015 - 03:47 PM) And playing not Abington....damn auto correct on iPad
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 September 2015 - 12:15 PM) We should be getting Eric Decker back this week
santana Icon : (01 October 2015 - 07:39 PM) VICK = $$
santana Icon : (01 October 2015 - 10:49 PM) Tucker = $$
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 October 2015 - 11:13 AM) Ivory is full go for this week, big news
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (02 October 2015 - 11:13 AM) Hopefully Decker can play as well
MikeGangGree... Icon : (02 October 2015 - 03:32 PM) We need Decker
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Posted 13 November 2008 - 12:05 PM

Scouts Inc.: Favre-Belichick a unique chess match
from ESPN.com - AFC East - Blog
Posted by Scouts Inc.'s Keith Kidd

Every week in the NFL is full of chess matches, but the matchup between New York Jets quarterback Brett Favre and New England Patriots coach Bill Belichick is unique. Belichick has had the upper hand in the last four matchups between the two teams, but a lot has changed since the Patriots' 19-10 win in Week 2.

The teams are tied atop the AFC East and Thursday night's winner will have a leg up in the race for the divisional crown. Let's take a deeper look at how the Jets will try to exploit the Patriots' defense.

New York offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer runs multiple offensive sets and formational designs and will attempt to get his personnel into mismatches against the back end of the Patriots defense. The Jets have relied on running back Thomas Jones and an offensive line that averages close to 310 pounds to set up a quick, controlled passing attack that has allowed Favre to manage the game better. Favre's completion percentage in the past three games is better than 70 percent and he looks a lot more comfortable in the offense due to Schottenheimer's ability to use different formations and different looks to run the same plays.

We all know how meticulous Belichick is in his situational game planning, mixing things up both during a game and week-to-week depending on the strengths and weaknesses of an opposing offense. The Patriots utilize a lot of different defensive personnel groupings (3-3-5, 4-2-5, 2-4-5) depending on the situation and the spread personnel groupings on the field. One of the keys in this game will be how well the Patriots identify certain players in the formation. For example, how will they treat tight end Dustin Keller and running back Leon Washington? Will they stay in their base 3-4 or counter with one of the many sub groupings listed above?

The Jets can pose a lot of problems for any defense based on their skill-position players. Keller and Washington will pose problems for New England's back end. Washington is a dangerous change-of-pace runner who complements Jones and places a lot of pressure on the spacing of a defense because of his elusiveness, top-end speed and explosiveness as a runner. Keller is a mismatch waiting to happen due to his competitive style and breakaway speed. Both players also open up opportunities for other players within the formation in the passing game.

Defensively, the Patriots' game plan will revolve around stopping the Jets' running game and forcing Favre to beat them through the air. In watching the Colts game a few weeks ago, left inside linebacker Jerod Mayo was very competitive when covering Colts tight end Dallas Clark in passing situations. Mayo is a terrific young player who contributes as a three-down player, leaving the field in only certain game-specific situations. He is an explosive player with functional play speed and makes the defense a lot a faster, especially on the second level.

That being said, the matchup with Keller or Washington could be critical in the way the Patriots defend it in passing situations. The Patriots do a great job of reacting to route concepts in their underneath coverages, changing the rotation and rules within their coverage designs. Favre and his high-percentage passing game must find ways to attack the Patriots' back end and both Keller and Washington give the ability to do that.

Don't buy into the theory that the short week of preparation will affect the game because these staffs know each other well and have been game planning for each other since last week. There are a lot of intriguing story lines in this game, but the team that makes the fewest mistakes will go a long way in deciding the outcome of this game.

Scouts Inc. watches games, breaks down film and studies football from all angles for ESPN.com.


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