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ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:30 PM) It's ok for the offense to deliberately take a safety to prevent a TD and only give up 2 points an benefit themselves so yeah I think it is an old out of date rule that should be thrown out. If the d makes a great play they shouldn't have to give the offense the ball back because of a stupid rule
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:30 PM) So I'm glad it wasn't called
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:31 PM) Hope it's changed next year
Jetsfan115 Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:31 PM) it's been called a ton of times, they showed a montage o ESPN last night of a bunch of times it's been called
Jetsfan115 Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:33 PM) just because one player made a great play, doesn't mean you can excuse someone making a bonehead play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:34 PM) chancellor made a great play (remember when i wanted the jets to draft him?) but the LBer should have not illegally batted it, he could have tried to recover it or body blocked det from recovering.
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:34 PM) Not sure what ESPN you had on ESPN China? I left ESPN on for 2 hours after the game and I never seen this montage you say. I'm calling you out as bullshit. Show me a video of proof
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:38 PM) Even the old ESPN official couldn't remember an instance of it being called. It isn't the same as the offense backing out of the end zone with the ball or being sacked in the end zone for a safety. Completely different rule and situation. I've never seen it called and I watch at least 6 games at a time a week. None of the ESPN announcer players, Ray Lewis, Dilfer, or Young even knew the rule and that's over 20 years of NFL experience. Yet none of them knew or understood the rule until it was explained in detail
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:40 PM) I've never once seen the ball given back to to offense so I challenge you to show me this montage you claim was on. If I didn't see it for two hours I after the game I'm calling bullshit on your end
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:43 PM) Say whatever you want but show me proof or just leave it be because I won't believe you without a bunch of video proof. I have a hell of a memory and if it ever was called maybe once or twice in the past 30 years but no way there is some montage
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:48 PM) Nether coach knew the rule either and they would know more of the rules than the players and fans. If not for a retired official bringing it up it probably would've never even been brought up at all
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:58 PM) I highly questionable is on now and they are even saying no one knew the rule or complained until they were told the rule.
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 04:05 PM) I have seen plenty of games where defenders did knock the ball out of the end zone like the situation last night to prevent any possible touchdown not disputing that because that has happened a good many times. My point is I've never seen a flag thrown for it and the ball given to the offense. It's definitely an obsolete rule that should be thrown out. The NFL has made the rules so offensive friendly these days it's hard to play defense with out calls anymore. That is just one more bullshit rule to help the offense. Take the Jets Dolphins game for instance. Those bullshit pi calls against our defense for clearly uncatchable balls. Pi never should've never been called giving up like 60 yards on two calls and a td that never would've happened. At most they should've been 5 yard holding calls. Never would've been mad if they just called them holding calls.
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 04:06 PM) Anyway I'm tired of all these offense friendly rules these days screwing over the defenses. It's starting to get like non touch flag football for the defenses.
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 04:11 PM) You know it too. Our team has been a defensive team for well over a decade and so many bullshit calls have been called against our defense because of the new offensive friendly rules. So I say screw Detroit. I'm glad it wasn't called and a defense gets a break
Jetsfan115 Icon : (06 October 2015 - 06:37 PM) call em a liar if you want, but I seen it man
santana Icon : (07 October 2015 - 12:52 AM) guess I should enable a character limit for the shoutbox
santana Icon : (07 October 2015 - 12:53 AM) getting a bit out of hand
Jetsman05 Icon : (07 October 2015 - 06:30 AM) Rob you're brutal
MikeGangGree... Icon : (07 October 2015 - 01:30 PM) Who should I start this week in fantasy football? Its a PPR league. I can start 3 of the WRs Edelman-/D-Thomas/Mike Evans/James Jones
MikeGangGree... Icon : (07 October 2015 - 01:30 PM) Edelman and Thomas are must start
MikeGangGree... Icon : (07 October 2015 - 01:31 PM) So do I start Evans against Jax or James Jones vs STL
Jetsfan115 Icon : (07 October 2015 - 01:45 PM) jones. winston likes jackson more then evans
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 01:47 PM) My two year old daughter is less manic and is able to maintain her composure much better than someone we know here ....
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 03:07 PM) Dolphins have also fired their DC
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 03:24 PM) I am composed. 115 and I may see things differently but he has never pissed me off. He is just trying to make his point of view and I mine nothing more
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 03:25 PM) I just feel the rule is a very bad rule to give the offense the ball back for losing the ball in the endzone because of a batted ball and feel the NFL is far to offense firendly these days thats all
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 03:27 PM) I know many agree with that. I get that many changes have been made to limit things like brain damage and other injuries some season ending and career ending but defenses cant play hard like they used to and pathetic calls on defenses have ruinbed many games.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 03:29 PM) Thats why brought up the Jets Fish game. The balls were clearly uncatcahable and a light tug on the jersey shouldn't be a pi. Whatever happened to the uncatchable ball rule?"
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 03:33 PM) and as far as that montage I did have ESPN on for 2 hours after the game because I wanted to see all the reactions and get a clear understanding of this old rule and I never saw a bunch of clips where flags were thrown for the play in question. So I asked for proof. If it was on ESPN it wasn't on ESPN1 maybe ESPN 2 ,3 or news. Its not wrong or brutal to ask for proof when he stated he saw it on ESPN I had the channel on and didn't see what he claimed he saw and still haven't seen any video of proof of his claims
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 03:36 PM) But as I said not mad at all. 115 and I are cool and always have been Ive never been mad at him in anyway. This is a fan forum and we dispute. If we all agreed on everything there would be no point of the forum. Disputes on stats and calls make things interesting, and makes each of use see things from different points of view
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:56 PM) it was on whatever channel the game itself came on
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:56 PM) and for the record I don't have any issue with anything rob said. I just disagree with it
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:57 PM) I do think rules are too offense friendly, but I think in this case, when someone blatently breaks a rule ti should be punished
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:57 PM) but then again pacman got away with ripping off a players helmet and didn't get a penatly
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:57 PM) refs need to be more consistent
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:04 PM) Hell yeah! Pac 12 AZ State Jaelen Strong. Not a Texans fan but and dont watch a ton of college football but do watch the Pac 12 for football and basketball growing up in Phoenix and also a Suns fan and liking the Cardinals since they moved to AZ .Was a Jets fan though before Az got the cardinals . Strong was really good for AZ State.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:05 PM) Havent studied up on strong for the Texans but will have to since the announcers said he hasnt played much. I want to know if he has been injured or not performing. He has good hands and size
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:08 PM) I actually was debating on starting the Colts witth Jets D on bye week glad I dropped them. Wasn't much to choose from. Some decent defenses but bad matchups. took a chance on the Jags this week hoping they can shut down Tampa
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:10 PM) Oh and thanks for that 115. people took it wrong. we were simply debating our opinions with passion for our love of football with no animosity and people took it wrong. Easy to misunderstand texts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 11:21 AM) yeah people don't realize it's ok to disagree on the internet without it being 2 people hating each other lol
RetireChrebet Icon : (Today, 12:30 PM) I think if the defense touches a live football in the end zone, period, it should be ruled a touchback.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Today, 12:30 PM) Talking about fumbles, not passes, of course.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Today, 12:31 PM) That's the simplest way to combat any confusion about the rule.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Today, 12:32 PM) If you don't like that rule, then don't fumble in the end zone your trying to score in.
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Brett Favre In A New York Minute --- best NY Jets read I've had in 6 years...

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Posted 21 November 2008 - 02:40 PM


FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- Factoring in the breeze whistling across the open fields, it was well below freezing when, grudgingly, the Jets took the practice field Wednesday.

For Brett Favre, it was another day in wind-chilled paradise, just another summer day back at Lambeau Field.

While most players moved briskly to the next drill, Favre pantomimed a slow-motion jog that drew laughs. He lined up linebacker Eric Barton for an emphatic butt-slap and, later, caught backup quarterback Kellen Clemens with the same stinging, signature maneuver.

The Jets are coming off four straight victories and, at 7-3, are a game ahead of the pack in the AFC East. New York is in sole possession of first place for the first time in seven years. The Jets meet the 10-0 Tennessee Titans on Sunday, and by the way they went about their business this week at their new facility in suburban New Jersey, you'd swear they think they have a chance.

This time last year the record was 2-8 and the atmosphere in Hempstead, N.Y., was funereal. What's different? Sure, nose tackle Kris Jenkins has been huge (literally, at a listed 349 pounds) in stopping the run and, yes, the offensive line has been terrific with the addition of guard Alan Faneca. Favre, of course, was one of the highest-profile acquisitions in the history of the league, but it's not just his play on the field that has elevated the Jets.

Favre is 39 years old now. But his enthusiasm, his obvious joy for the game, has changed the Jets' chemistry and, maybe, something even greater.

"He's changed the culture totally," said wide receiver Jerricho Cotchery. "When I first met him, he was saying that the two things he was going to do was score touchdowns and have fun. And we've been scoring touchdowns, and we've been having a lot of fun.

"It's more relaxed. Guys are having fun each and every day. Guys are happy to be here."

The veterans will tell you that "fun" was not a word that often surfaced in head coach Eric Mangini's two previous seasons.

"Believe me," Favre said, "there's nothing fun about meetings. There's not a whole lot of fun in practice. There's not a whole lot of fun in losing, but you can make it as easy or as hard as you want. I try to make it easy.

"No one is as competitive as me. No one has as much fun as me. I love to play the game. There's nothing like throwing a touchdown pass. There's nothing like going into Foxborough and beating [the Patriots] when no one gave us a chance."

Mangini has been impressed.

Although he's still learning the nuances of the Jets' playbook, Brett Favre has made noticeable progress.

"He can be focused, get his work done, but keep the group light, keep practice fun, keep the guys excited about each day," Mangini said. "He's got that passion for football, that love of the game, that's very contagious."

Since arriving for his 18th season on Aug. 7, Favre has been working to assimilate the Jets' offense and the particular skills of his teammates. As always with Favre, it has not been a flat-line affair. This, after all, is the man who is the NFL's all-time leader in touchdowns (460) and interceptions (300). Favre threw seven interceptions in a span of three games, but over the past three games there has been only one.

Favre has thrown for 18 touchdowns, balanced by 12 interceptions, and has a tidy 93.0 passer rating, better than his career average of 86.0. Ten games in, he said he is more comfortable with all the moving parts. The biggest play in last week's 34-31 victory over the Patriots came on the winning drive in overtime when Favre converted a third-and-15 with a 31-yard quick seam pass to tight end Dustin Keller. Favre said it was the first game the Jets had included the play in the game plan, and that he worked with Keller through the previous week on mastering its intricacies.

Still, there is always time for horseplay.

"He is the notorious butt-slapper," Cotchery said. "You have to watch out for him because you may be stretching out or something, and he just comes out of nowhere."

Mangini himself was victimized last Thursday night on national television. Moments after the Jets had defeated the Patriots, Favre accepted a hug from Mangini, then as Mangini walked away -- whack!

"At that point, it was perfectly fine," Mangini said. "No problem. I didn't even feel it. Shoot … with what I'm working with, I wouldn't feel much."

When Jenkins said earlier this week, "I think that's the oldest 12-year-old playing in the league," the nose tackle meant it in a nice way.

Favre understands he's on the backside of his career. His news conference answers are exceedingly thoughtful, approaching earnest. When he visits stadiums, he remembers to savor the memories because it could be the last time.

Despite the gee-whiz attitude, the grab-ass antics, Favre feels his age every day.

"If you're chasing your kids around the house, whatever, 'Let's go one more time.' You go, 'Oh…' Believe me, I'm no different," Favre said. "I'm 39 years old. I'm out there running around, and sometimes I'm going, 'Whew, I need to take a break.'

"It's still fun. There's nothing like going to play the undefeated team in football right now. All eyes will be on us. I hope we win the football game. I'm going to do everything I can, but I'm going to have fun in the process."

Greg Garber is a senior writer for ESPN.com

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Posted 21 November 2008 - 04:38 PM

"I think that's the oldest 12-year-old playing in the league"


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Posted 21 November 2008 - 06:00 PM

What more can be said about the guy. So glad he's here and watching these few games down the stretch is going to be exciting!

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Posted 21 November 2008 - 07:15 PM

I mean he has been a godsend for this organization. All the Jets needed was a reason to believe and somebody to follow that has been to the "promised land", and now they have both.

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