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XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:54 PM) he only looks good because our O is so bad.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:54 PM) I bet a lot of teams have their eye on him
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:56 PM) Decker doesn't need to play until he is completely healthy
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:58 PM) FIRE IDZIK
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 11:08 PM) How big was the Sheldon Richardson fumble recovery not being a TD. We quickly went three and out after that
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:43 PM) Idzik better not be stingy this offseason and address the biggest issues we have WR and Secondary
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 11:47 PM) King mo says he's ok, injury is minor
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 09:21 AM) As a guy who has been on this site since its inception and is still not a moderator which I guess is cause I'm not part of the rat pack who runs this joint I think GENO should still be the starter.
mgjetman Icon : (Today, 10:19 AM) We still could have won this game with the bad calls. Geno just sucks. All the pick six's, missing wide open receivers, bad throws when they are fought. Stupid trick plays because they don't trust him.
santana Icon : (Today, 10:31 AM) I don't get his decision making
santana Icon : (Today, 10:32 AM) There were another 2-3 ints the bears were gifted but were dropped
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:22 AM) f***
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:22 AM) I had a blast at the game... just sucks we lost
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:22 AM) 1-3 when I go se them
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:32 AM) Refs fucked up the fumble for a TD. by calling it down the first time everyone in the stadium saw it as a fumble
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:33 AM) they need to just let them plays play out because they now look at every turnover
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:33 AM) If hes down they could just overturn it on the replay
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:33 AM) f*** Holmes to
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 12:22 PM) gg2003 you want to be a mod?
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 12:22 PM) You have to go through your initiation
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 12:43 PM) Gg03 would be a terrif
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 12:43 PM) what is the "initiation"
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 12:47 PM) :zz:
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 12:53 PM) and no I will not say that Idzik needs to be canned cause he doesn't
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 12:54 PM) he just needs to find talent at the CB and WR positions while also improving in positions that are currently our strengths like DL and OL
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 01:30 PM) Fire idzik!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 01:45 PM) Best part of last night was Wayne Chrebet going onto the Ring of Honor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 02:04 PM) u think our oline is a strength? did u not see geno getting killed out there?
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 02:04 PM) LG is a shit position, colon is old and nto much left in the tank, brick and mangold are in decline, and brent is a below average RT at best
santana Icon : (Today, 04:26 PM) initiation is you have to high 5.... 5 pats fans in the span of a week
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 04:43 PM) i wonder how ronny is doing as a fins fan lol.
santana Icon : (Today, 04:55 PM) I think he got sick of being an nfl fan all together
santana Icon : (Today, 04:55 PM) but thats just speculation
santana Icon : (Today, 04:55 PM) I know its starting to make me sick
santana Icon : (Today, 04:56 PM) bad refs excessive commercials
santana Icon : (Today, 04:56 PM) shitty services available to stream it
santana Icon : (Today, 04:56 PM) loads of penalties
santana Icon : (Today, 04:56 PM) annoying replay system
santana Icon : (Today, 04:57 PM) ambiguous rules where the ref has to fucking explain everything to you
santana Icon : (Today, 04:58 PM) oh and the constant violence out side of the game. domestic abuse. murders. dui cases. gun charges. young players wanting to smoke weed with less repercussion. veteran players wanting less hgh testing to stay healthy and in the league
santana Icon : (Today, 04:59 PM) BUY BUD LIGHT GUYS AND A TACOMA NATIONWIDE IS ON YOUR SIDE PAPAJOHNS DISCOUNT DOUBLE fuck you you will buy it!
santana Icon : (Today, 04:59 PM) end rant
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 05:08 PM) lol NFL is a big money business, sometimes to run something that big, your gonna have some a-holes involved. any big company is like that
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 05:10 PM) i might not wanna read this then http://nyjetsfan.com...showtopic=38459
santana Icon : (Today, 05:11 PM) yeah heard about it
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F. A's Wish List....

#1 User is offline   Jetsfan0099 Icon

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 11:55 AM

This is my wish list, I want....
#1-Asante Samuel
#2-Eric Steinbach(OG/OT)
#3-Michael Turner
#4-Hollis Thomas
Bonus Dwight Freeney if we can get him for OLB!
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:01 PM

Not to burst your bubble but we already had this topic.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:04 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Jan 15 2007, 12:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not to burst your bubble but we already had this topic.

I know, but I couldnt find it and I was bord and just thought about what players I really want....
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:07 PM

Fair enough:

1. Assante Samuel
2. A DT so the Jets could move DRob to DE
3. Briggs
4. [Ideal Situation] - Trade JMac and a 3rd for M. Turner
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:12 PM

NT - Terrdel Sands - 6'7" 335 lbs - The short term answer to our NT problem kills 2 birds with one stone. This guy allows us to move D Rob to DE...and suddenly our line is solid. However, I'm not sure we need a NT. There were some big free agent bodies last year...and we didn't pursue...so maybe Mangini really is OK with Tui and Pouha. Let's hope so...that would be great.

OT - Leonard Davis - Takes over for Clements and makes our run game actually effective.

That's it...than some small time guys Mangini thinks will fit his system. Some may say Asante Samuel...but he may cost too much...so I say no. If we can get him at a fair price...than sure go for it...but with his gaudy numbers...he's sure to go high.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:18 PM

You know what, we have 28 mil. in cap space and plenty of money. Go get Samuel, how much is a real shut down corner worth? Two good corners does so much for a D.
Give me a big fat NT and Samuel and our D would be very improved,
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:21 PM

How are you guys putting Asante at the top of the list? We're actually pretty good at CB. With another year in the system we have some good up and coming DB's.

We need a DT or DE if we don't move DRob. That is our #1 priority. We also need a RB and LB upgrade in the worst way. Every other area we can build through the draft.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:21 PM

QUOTE (mangold107 @ Jan 15 2007, 12:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You know what, we have 28 mil. in cap space and plenty of money. Go get Samule, how much is a real shut down corner worth? Two good corners does so much for a D.
Give me a big fat NT and Samule and our D would be very improved,


Yeah and if you spend it all this year we won't have it next year...

Plus...this is the kind of orgnizatoin that's going to build through the draft...the way it should be done. If we do that we need to sign our own guys long term. Jerricho Cotchery definitely needs to be signed. Victor Hobson could be resigned. Rhodes eventually will need to be resigned.

Build through the draft...keep your own players...that is how you win.

Not by signing a bunch of other teams retreads...ehum...Redskins....eh...
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:24 PM

A need no one has really been talking about from what ive seen is OG. Look at what shawn andrews has done for the eagles he is a beast. Granted if we continue to use leon as our main back having a OT like leonard davis would be huge because of all the offtackle running. But the key to making our run game better is the OG position. Moore is not only not very good but also extremely penalty prone. Kendall id have to say is good but not great and aging. h eis probably also more cerebral than physical. I also think we need to look DL beyond just NT. I dont know if ellis, as much as I love him, is the answer at DE in 3-4...we need some dominators up front.

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:29 PM

QUOTE (VILMAmazing51 @ Jan 15 2007, 12:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A need no one has really been talking about from what ive seen is OG. Look at what shawn andrews has done for the eagles he is a beast. Granted if we continue to use leon as our main back having a OT like leonard davis would be huge because of all the offtackle running. But the key to making our run game better is the OG position. Moore is not only not very good but also extremely penalty prone. Kendall id have to say is good but not great and aging. h eis probably also more cerebral than physical. I also think we need to look DL beyond just NT. I dont know if ellis, as much as I love him, is the answer at DE in 3-4...we need some dominators up front.


I agree about Ellis...he isn't the answer...but for now he's OK. I think we should draft a guy in the middle rounds like Baraka Atkins to groom and take over for Ellis in a year or so.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:30 PM

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:30 PM

QUOTE (SignalZero @ Jan 15 2007, 12:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How are you guys putting Asante at the top of the list? We're actually pretty good at CB. With another year in the system we have some good up and coming DB's.

We need a DT or DE if we don't move DRob. That is our #1 priority. We also need a RB and LB upgrade in the worst way. Every other area we can build through the draft.


I agree with Ronny here. I really like Miller, he's gonna be great especially because his work ethic has improved vastly. And anyway, I dont think the Pats are gonna let Samuels go. He's the reason they let Ty Law go.

Thus, I like the idea of letting Miller start on the other side and really working hard with him this offseason. Everyone said the kid was raw when he came out... he's still learning and when he gets there he's gonna be amazing.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:38 PM

I though Ellis quietly had a great season, like almost all pro. He blew up plays in the backfield and set up alot of sacks. He could of easily had 8-9 sacks this year. Ellis was our best D-linemen this year, with Robertson behind him. We do need a guy to replace him in the future though, since he will be 30 next year. But we need a replacement now for Kimo, I think that Cory Redding would be a good pickup for that. While we draft a DT/DE high in the draft.
I just want one big FA signing, I think they could do that, I would want Samuel, I was watching him yesterday, he played great. He has great coverage skills, he is a up and coming CB, atleast we can try and get him away from the Pats. That would hurt them big time. I want to trade or cut Barrett, so that would save some money for the future, he is good but, he lacks speed and when we blitz if we dont get to the QB, then he can get torched because of it.

QUOTE (VILMAmazing51 @ Jan 15 2007, 12:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A need no one has really been talking about from what ive seen is OG. Look at what shawn andrews has done for the eagles he is a beast. Granted if we continue to use leon as our main back having a OT like leonard davis would be huge because of all the offtackle running. But the key to making our run game better is the OG position. Moore is not only not very good but also extremely penalty prone. Kendall id have to say is good but not great and aging. h eis probably also more cerebral than physical. I also think we need to look DL beyond just NT. I dont know if ellis, as much as I love him, is the answer at DE in 3-4...we need some dominators up front.

Thats why I said to sign Eric Steinbach, he is a OG, and a really good one too, he can play OT also. He is verstile, doubt we would go after him.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:42 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 15 2007, 06:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just want one big FA signing, I think they could do that, I would want Samuel, I was watching him yesterday, he played great. He has great coverage skills, he is a up and coming CB, atleast we can try and get him away from the Pats. That would hurt them big time. I want to trade or cut Barrett, so that would save some money for the future, he is good but, he lacks speed and when we blitz if we dont get to the QB, then he can get torched because of it.
Thats why I said to sign Eric Steinbach, he is a OG, and a really good one too, he can play OT also. He is verstile, doubt we would go after him.


I agree on both parts and feel that Eric Steinbach would be a great pickup as Kendall is very much on the wrong side of 30 and Brandon Moore had an on and off season for the most part. However the one knock with Steinbach is that in New York he'd be surrounded by a lot of water and may fancy taking another drunken boat trip, like he did earlier in the season, and earn himself another DUI. crazy.gif

Samuel would be by main target as a FA but I wouldn't call him an up and coming CB. Remember he had 10 INTs this year, level with Champ Bailey, so IMO he is already one of the elite NFL CBs.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:43 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Jan 15 2007, 01:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I agree with Ronny here. I really like Miller, he's gonna be great especially because his work ethic has improved vastly. And anyway, I dont think the Pats are gonna let Samuels go. He's the reason they let Ty Law go.

Thus, I like the idea of letting Miller start on the other side and really working hard with him this offseason. Everyone said the kid was raw when he came out... he's still learning and when he gets there he's gonna be amazing.

I really dont know about Miller, I mean he improved his play alot during the season at CB. At first he stunk, but later in the year he did good, he is a very good tackler, and a big time hitter. Plus he doesnt get beat deep, he has great speed. He still should of had that int against the Pats. But still if we try and wait for these guys, then we wont be good again next year, Idk if we can trust Miller for next season. I really wish we started Miller all season. Barrett isnt good for us, he is too slow and is prone to the deep throw on the blitz. Samuel is a guy that knows the system and is a great up and coming player. I would love for us to take him away from the Pats. I had my eye on Samuel for like 3 years now.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:45 PM

QUOTE (mangold107 @ Jan 15 2007, 12:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You know what, we have 28 mil. in cap space and plenty of money. Go get Samuel, how much is a real shut down corner worth? Two good corners does so much for a D.
Give me a big fat NT and Samuel and our D would be very improved,


That's the biggest misconception what you just said. Remember that we will probably resign,Cotchery,Hobson and Mangini. There won't be as much money as you think there will be. Just remember to factor in that point when you talk about F.A's
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:49 PM

QUOTE (Smedsthejet @ Jan 15 2007, 01:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I agree on both parts and feel that Eric Steinbach would be a great pickup as Kendall is very much on the wrong side of 30 and Brandon Moore had an on and off season for the most part. However the one knock with Steinbach is that in New York he'd be surrounded by a lot of water and may fancy taking another drunken boat trip, like he did earlier in the season, and earn himself another DUI. crazy.gif

Samuel would be by main target as a FA but I wouldn't call him an up and coming CB. Remember he had 10 INTs this year, level with Champ Bailey, so IMO he is already one of the elite NFL CBs.

He is kinda a up and coming player for the fact that he keeps on improving. He didnt make the probowl so he is still on the rise, untill he becomes a CB that makes it every year and is well known, but his 10 picks does attract attention. I think that, that may be the reason we dont get him because of his 10 picks, and he is going to want some kind of contract. Especially since he had another int against us in the playoffs for a TD, and is playing amazing in the playoffs. Would absolutly love to sign this guy though.

QUOTE (S-Dubb @ Jan 15 2007, 01:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's the biggest misconception what you just said. Remember that we will probably resign,Cotchery,Hobson and Mangini. There won't be as much money as you think there will be. Just remember to factor in that point when you talk about F.A's

Coaches take up cap money?????
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 12:54 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan0099 @ Jan 15 2007, 06:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Coaches take up cap money?????


I don't think they do but they take up money from the organisation, which includes cap money. The lower revenue teams find it hard to use all their cap money because of this.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 01:37 PM

Yeah cause Woody Johnson isn't a billionaire.
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Posted 15 January 2007 - 09:21 PM

1. dwight freeney or draft lamar woodley
2. Get a NT
3. draft someone on the OL. RT or Guard
4. get someone to play corner ( samuels, nick harpers, clements)


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