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ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) If they keep ZHill after this game I will be shocked.
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:38 PM) Philly gave us a worse ass whipping than Detroit gave Buffalo. only difference is we scored
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:42 PM) Im just wondering what manning will put up on our secondary? 70?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:12 PM) who cares about getting destroyed in a preseason game, especially the 4th one. Most of these guys won't even make the team
ganggreen2003 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:15 PM) Hill cut yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:18 PM) FIRE IDZIK
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:21 PM) Yeah this game means nothing...except to Stephen Hill (who fumbled lol) and 115
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:23 PM) Hill is a bum, hes pretty much never shown much football skill. The Jets fucked up big time taking him over Alshon Jeffery.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:29 PM) I'm still pissed off about that
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:43 PM) Its not that Im worried about the preseason game itself. i could care less about that. Its the fact of how bad we got destroyed. And some of the guys will be on the team and others on the fringe so getting destroyed like that doesnt fill me with confidence
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:44 PM) It would be one thing if it was just the second half or 4th quarter but this was the whole game. especially getting destroyed in the 1st quarter and at least part of the 2nd where a lot of the guys will be on the team
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:48 PM) 2nd and 3rd stringers making the team had something to prove and even our 2nd stringers got owned so yes Im very concerned. The first stringers need breaks and also if some of them get injured they need to step up. So no after this performance start to finish Im very concerned
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 06:39 AM) Meh...you're reading too much into it
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 06:40 AM) Even in seasons where the Jets blew, I haven't seen anyone refer to the preseason to complain. Ever.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:15 AM) fire izdik http://theredzone.or...rs/Default.aspx
Jetsman05 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 11:17 AM) I picture Rob and 115 as real life friends
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 04:01 PM) Holmes can still play, problem is that hes also a cancer. He wore out his welcome with the Jets
ganggreen2003 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 08:23 PM) did Hill get cut?
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:00 PM) Haven't seen anything yet
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:06 PM) Whos ready for the season!!? WOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (30 August 2014 - 11:54 AM) Hill has been cut
MikeGangGree... Icon : (30 August 2014 - 01:24 PM) Who wants to take bets he ends up in NE
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 02:18 PM) We'll I guess you guys are fools then in thinking im a fool for being concerned. Do any of you even know that in 2013 the Jets gave up the most passing yards in the franchise since 1986? And our secondary right now is worse than last year right now. To not be concerned is utterly foolish.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 02:19 PM) Unless our d-line has a monstrous year odds are the team will be eaten up in the pass. Every team will game plan to exploit the pass this year.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 02:56 PM) Patterson got cut
flood555 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:24 PM) Patterson must have been a huge cancer to get cut
flood555 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:26 PM) is there a midseason draft? we need a DB!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:58 PM) Our week 1 starting CBs will be Antonio Allen and Darrin Walls... wow
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:58 PM) interesting that Simms and Boyd were released
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 04:00 PM) No more McIntyre
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 05:20 PM) Pretty sure some of these cuts like Simms and McIntyre were made for removing some more cap space to try to find some decent corners and maybe another reliable wr. Possibly get some players cheap. I'd say the current 53 roster will change a good bit in the next week.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 05:23 PM) I just hope Geno doesn't get hurt or we are horse f*cked. Vick sure as hell can't stay healthy for a full season. I guess the FO could also be think of picking up an old vet cut as 3rd qb. Simms is ok but I'd never trust him to win a regular season game if he was put in.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 05:25 PM) Anyway it's going yo be an interesting week.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 10:18 PM) I doubt it was about freeing up money, considering we are way under. Like more than $20 mil, way more than enough to find some vet minimum CB
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 10:19 PM) it's more about the roster numbers. McIntyre was replaced by rookies. IK showed flashes when he played
bleedsgreen Icon : (Yesterday, 08:34 AM) McIntyre is a shock to me he was a solid backup and made some big plays
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:44 PM) 1 week till we are 1-0
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:44 PM) we need to annihilate the GAYders
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:28 PM) We claimed McFadden from the Browns. Knows the system should be able to contribute right away
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:29 PM) Watching the Browns game now. Playing all three CB spots. Looks OK. A little grabby although he has not been called for it
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:30 PM) Might be a little aggressive and get burnt over top
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:26 PM) FIRE IDZIK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 06:58 AM) ^^^ agreed
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What Is This World Coming Too? life sentence for 16 year old

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Posted 07 July 2005 - 11:13 AM

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Monday July 4, 2005

A 16-year-old schoolboy who raped a teacher was given a life sentence at the Old Bailey today.



Judge Christopher Moss told the youth that he had violated the teacher's classroom - her place of safety - and had left her "physically and mentally scarred".

The judge allowed the identity of school in which the attack took place, Westminster City school for boys, to be revealed.

The south London youth, who cannot be named for legal reasons because of his age, pleaded guilty to raping the 28-year-old teacher in September last year. He was 15 at the time of the attack.

The judge said two psychiatrists described the youth as a danger to the public, and one doctor regarded him "as a potentially dangerous young man currently at high risk of sexual violence".

The doctors felt he should be assessed over a long period of therapy and should not be released until he was felt to be safe, said the judge.

The court was told today that the 1.8 metres (5ft 11in), powerfully-built teenager head-butted and threatened to kill the woman as she bravely fought him off.

Brendan Kelly, prosecuting, said the teacher was in her classroom when she was grabbed round her neck and pulled to the back of the room.

Mr Kelly said the youth ripped the teacher's shirt and pulled off her trousers, but she managed to fight him off. "All the time, he was trying to force her backwards on to a desk. She was quite clear his aim was to rape her.

"He said he was going to kill her over and over again."

The teacher had been knocked about the room, hitting furniture, as she tried to resist him.

She was eventually overpowered as the youth raped her orally. When it was over, she fled bleeding and naked. Colleagues had difficulty recognising her because of the blood all over face.

The youth was arrested the next day, Mr Kelly, prosecuting, told the court.

The court heard that it was the teacher's second day at the school when the attack took place.

Describing the impact of the assault on the victim, Mr Kelly said: "The effect of this attack upon her has been devastating.

"Since the incident she has been unable to teach. She anticipates that once 'all this' has been put to bed she proposes to go back on a trial period - not to the school in question, she will go to another school.

"Her confidence has been devastated, her social life equally has been devastated.

"She lives in fear of returning to her vocation."

Mr Kelly said the victim's detailed statements "outlined a trail of devastation following this systematic attack upon her".

Mr Kelly said the youth was caught on CCTV wandering around the school after other pupils had left.

He had gone into another classroom where he spoke to a woman teacher, before attacking the victim five minutes later.

"It may well be that she was fortunate herself," said Mr Kelly.

After the previous hearing into the case, it emerged that the youth had been questioned by police about other attacks in his area.

But he was not suspected when a cleaner was attacked at the school in June, last year, when an attempt was made to rape her.

A police inquiry is being held to find out if the relevant information about the youth's background was available to authorities before the attack.

In mitigation, Jeremy Dein QC, defending, had argued that the defendant's age should be taken into consideration.

He said the teenager had come from an "emotionally fraught" family background and he was bullied at school.

His father had left before he was born and the youth was left to act as man of the house.

But he suffered a form of misconduct disorder, said Mr Dein.

"When he committed the offence at 15, he was and remains the product of an emotionally fraught upbringing."

The defence cited one previous conviction for carrying a bladed instrument but said there had been no previous convictions in relation to sexual offences.

The court heard that the defendant had "found God" while in prison and expressed deep remorse for what he had done.

The youth wrote a letter to the judge saying he was sorry "from the bottom of his heart".

Mr Dein asked for the defendant to be given a chance to rehabilitate and rebuild his life.

"It clearly should never have happened. It was a despicable offence which cannot in any way, shape or form be overlooked."

But the barrister urged: "What matters most is that he is given a sentence that is constructive - not crushing."

Mr Dein accused the police of leaking "unsubstantiated" allegations of involvement in other attacks.

Mr Dein said the right sentence should be a defined term with an extended licence.

In a statement issued by the National Union of Teachers, the teacher said: "I am glad the boy has been given a lengthy period of incarceration; not out of vengeance but to protect others from what I have been through. Incarceration alone is not enough. He needs help and treatment."

The general secretary of the NUT, Steve Sinnott, said there were issues that need to be looked at. "This boy had a history of violent behaviour and was the main suspect in an earlier sexual attack on a member of the school's staff. Questions still have to be answered: why was this boy still in the school, what did the school know and what action has been taken to deal with this boy's behaviour in the past."

He added: "I am concerned to ensure that teachers, pupils and all staff involved in any school are not put at risk because of inaction or a failure of communication." The NUT has arranged a meeting with the school to discuss these issues.
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Posted 07 July 2005 - 11:48 AM

What that kid did was very sick, and he should be locked up in jail for a long time, but I think life is a bit too long.
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Posted 07 July 2005 - 11:54 AM

There is no excuse for his actions and he should have to pay but life for a teenage? He didn’t kill her I think he should have gotten something lik 15 years with parole after 10 so he could get out when he is 26 and still build a life. The thing is he doubled screwed himself he wanted that women so bad that now he will never get a women again. You gotta feel bad for him. I can’t imagine being 16 and know I wont get to have any women anymore
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Posted 07 July 2005 - 11:56 AM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Jul 7 2005, 12:29 PM)
There is no excuse for his actions and he should have to pay but life for a teenage? He didn’t kill her I think he should have gotten something lik 15 years with parole after 10 so he could get out when he is 26 and still build a life. The thing is he doubled screwed himself he wanted that women so bad that now he will never get a women again. You gotta feel bad for him. I can’t imagine being 16 and know I wont get to have any women anymore

That's exactly what I'm thinking, but if he raped her he should've thought of future consequences with woman and future life wuth them.
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Posted 07 July 2005 - 01:23 PM

I know what women is gonna wanna date a guy who raped his teacher when he was 15. now he is gonna get to see what she felt when they put a dress and maek-up on him and rape him. And eye for an eye. Does anyone find it just a little weird that all he id was eat her?

That’s also the difference between men and women. Most guys aren’t gonna fight back if a girl just wants to give him head lol
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Posted 07 July 2005 - 01:51 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Jul 7 2005, 11:48 AM)
The general secretary of the NUT, Steve Sinnott, said there were issues that need to be looked at.


Im sorry, is it wrong that I had a little chuckle to this? haha

But yea, this kid is one sick bastard, god knows what he wouldve done as he gets older. I do think getting a life sentence is a little harsh, maybe 15 with paroll at 10 liek somebody mentoined. Sucks for the kid, hope u enjoyed this cuz once they hear about this when he goes to the big house at 18, hell find himself a nice husband in there.
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Posted 07 July 2005 - 01:58 PM

Rape is not a respectable crime in prison so that makes it worse. Certain crimes are respectable and some are considered despicable. anything relating to children or women are even hated by the inmates (such as child abuse or wife beating or rape) respectable crimes are like bank robbery and such. Funny isn’t it
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Posted 07 July 2005 - 02:10 PM

What he did was very wrong, but a life sentence for a 16 is too much.
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Posted 07 July 2005 - 02:28 PM

QUOTE (smallguy @ Jul 7 2005, 02:45 PM)
What he did was very wrong, but a life sentence for a 16 is too much.


i agree
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Posted 08 July 2005 - 12:31 AM

Whatever, this kid ruined someone's life. How about the emotional problems this lady is gonna have now.

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Posted 08 July 2005 - 09:02 AM

I’m sue ten years minimum in prison will scar and ruin his life. Especially after being raped everyday by MEN. Life for somebody so young is wrong
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Posted 08 July 2005 - 10:45 AM

Well for one, a life sentence doesn't mean life imprisonment where the kid is gonna die in jail. It means after 1 decade ( 10 years ) he will be eligable for parole. Are you saying that 10 years is too much? Cause this kid has a history of violent sexual behavior brought out in the article. Not only that but he kicked her ass pretty bad as well.

Rape is a serious crime and if anybody ever raped a family member or friend of mine they better hope they stay in jail for 10 years cause I would destroy that person if I saw them.
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Posted 08 July 2005 - 01:01 PM

A know that a life sentence doesn’t mean he’ll die in jail but he aint gonns get out in no 10 years either. I said (if you would have read my post before) that he should get 15 years with a chance for parole after 10. I think 10-15 years is a good amount of time for him. To me though it seems like it was more of the physical abuse that was worse. He beat the hell out of her to the point where it said she was covered in blood but as far as the raping goes he never penetrated her per say. The fact is he is young and we all made mistakes when we were teens (none as bad as that though) and apparently his history is blown out of proportion. 10-15 is a fit punishment for the crime. But then again if it was my girl or mother I would want the bastard dead so its more your point of view
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