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ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (23 September 2016 - 03:55 PM) updated roster. FB howsare released, TE bowman added to roster
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 10:09 AM) BREAKING NEWS: Santana is a jinx during JETS games
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 11:40 AM) HUGE game today
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What Is This World Coming Too? life sentence for 16 year old

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Posted 07 July 2005 - 11:13 AM

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Monday July 4, 2005

A 16-year-old schoolboy who raped a teacher was given a life sentence at the Old Bailey today.



Judge Christopher Moss told the youth that he had violated the teacher's classroom - her place of safety - and had left her "physically and mentally scarred".

The judge allowed the identity of school in which the attack took place, Westminster City school for boys, to be revealed.

The south London youth, who cannot be named for legal reasons because of his age, pleaded guilty to raping the 28-year-old teacher in September last year. He was 15 at the time of the attack.

The judge said two psychiatrists described the youth as a danger to the public, and one doctor regarded him "as a potentially dangerous young man currently at high risk of sexual violence".

The doctors felt he should be assessed over a long period of therapy and should not be released until he was felt to be safe, said the judge.

The court was told today that the 1.8 metres (5ft 11in), powerfully-built teenager head-butted and threatened to kill the woman as she bravely fought him off.

Brendan Kelly, prosecuting, said the teacher was in her classroom when she was grabbed round her neck and pulled to the back of the room.

Mr Kelly said the youth ripped the teacher's shirt and pulled off her trousers, but she managed to fight him off. "All the time, he was trying to force her backwards on to a desk. She was quite clear his aim was to rape her.

"He said he was going to kill her over and over again."

The teacher had been knocked about the room, hitting furniture, as she tried to resist him.

She was eventually overpowered as the youth raped her orally. When it was over, she fled bleeding and naked. Colleagues had difficulty recognising her because of the blood all over face.

The youth was arrested the next day, Mr Kelly, prosecuting, told the court.

The court heard that it was the teacher's second day at the school when the attack took place.

Describing the impact of the assault on the victim, Mr Kelly said: "The effect of this attack upon her has been devastating.

"Since the incident she has been unable to teach. She anticipates that once 'all this' has been put to bed she proposes to go back on a trial period - not to the school in question, she will go to another school.

"Her confidence has been devastated, her social life equally has been devastated.

"She lives in fear of returning to her vocation."

Mr Kelly said the victim's detailed statements "outlined a trail of devastation following this systematic attack upon her".

Mr Kelly said the youth was caught on CCTV wandering around the school after other pupils had left.

He had gone into another classroom where he spoke to a woman teacher, before attacking the victim five minutes later.

"It may well be that she was fortunate herself," said Mr Kelly.

After the previous hearing into the case, it emerged that the youth had been questioned by police about other attacks in his area.

But he was not suspected when a cleaner was attacked at the school in June, last year, when an attempt was made to rape her.

A police inquiry is being held to find out if the relevant information about the youth's background was available to authorities before the attack.

In mitigation, Jeremy Dein QC, defending, had argued that the defendant's age should be taken into consideration.

He said the teenager had come from an "emotionally fraught" family background and he was bullied at school.

His father had left before he was born and the youth was left to act as man of the house.

But he suffered a form of misconduct disorder, said Mr Dein.

"When he committed the offence at 15, he was and remains the product of an emotionally fraught upbringing."

The defence cited one previous conviction for carrying a bladed instrument but said there had been no previous convictions in relation to sexual offences.

The court heard that the defendant had "found God" while in prison and expressed deep remorse for what he had done.

The youth wrote a letter to the judge saying he was sorry "from the bottom of his heart".

Mr Dein asked for the defendant to be given a chance to rehabilitate and rebuild his life.

"It clearly should never have happened. It was a despicable offence which cannot in any way, shape or form be overlooked."

But the barrister urged: "What matters most is that he is given a sentence that is constructive - not crushing."

Mr Dein accused the police of leaking "unsubstantiated" allegations of involvement in other attacks.

Mr Dein said the right sentence should be a defined term with an extended licence.

In a statement issued by the National Union of Teachers, the teacher said: "I am glad the boy has been given a lengthy period of incarceration; not out of vengeance but to protect others from what I have been through. Incarceration alone is not enough. He needs help and treatment."

The general secretary of the NUT, Steve Sinnott, said there were issues that need to be looked at. "This boy had a history of violent behaviour and was the main suspect in an earlier sexual attack on a member of the school's staff. Questions still have to be answered: why was this boy still in the school, what did the school know and what action has been taken to deal with this boy's behaviour in the past."

He added: "I am concerned to ensure that teachers, pupils and all staff involved in any school are not put at risk because of inaction or a failure of communication." The NUT has arranged a meeting with the school to discuss these issues.
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Posted 07 July 2005 - 11:48 AM

What that kid did was very sick, and he should be locked up in jail for a long time, but I think life is a bit too long.
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Posted 07 July 2005 - 11:54 AM

There is no excuse for his actions and he should have to pay but life for a teenage? He didn’t kill her I think he should have gotten something lik 15 years with parole after 10 so he could get out when he is 26 and still build a life. The thing is he doubled screwed himself he wanted that women so bad that now he will never get a women again. You gotta feel bad for him. I can’t imagine being 16 and know I wont get to have any women anymore
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Posted 07 July 2005 - 11:56 AM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Jul 7 2005, 12:29 PM)
There is no excuse for his actions and he should have to pay but life for a teenage? He didn’t kill her I think he should have gotten something lik 15 years with parole after 10 so he could get out when he is 26 and still build a life. The thing is he doubled screwed himself he wanted that women so bad that now he will never get a women again. You gotta feel bad for him. I can’t imagine being 16 and know I wont get to have any women anymore

That's exactly what I'm thinking, but if he raped her he should've thought of future consequences with woman and future life wuth them.
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Posted 07 July 2005 - 01:23 PM

I know what women is gonna wanna date a guy who raped his teacher when he was 15. now he is gonna get to see what she felt when they put a dress and maek-up on him and rape him. And eye for an eye. Does anyone find it just a little weird that all he id was eat her?

That’s also the difference between men and women. Most guys aren’t gonna fight back if a girl just wants to give him head lol
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Posted 07 July 2005 - 01:51 PM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Jul 7 2005, 11:48 AM)
The general secretary of the NUT, Steve Sinnott, said there were issues that need to be looked at.


Im sorry, is it wrong that I had a little chuckle to this? haha

But yea, this kid is one sick bastard, god knows what he wouldve done as he gets older. I do think getting a life sentence is a little harsh, maybe 15 with paroll at 10 liek somebody mentoined. Sucks for the kid, hope u enjoyed this cuz once they hear about this when he goes to the big house at 18, hell find himself a nice husband in there.
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Posted 07 July 2005 - 01:58 PM

Rape is not a respectable crime in prison so that makes it worse. Certain crimes are respectable and some are considered despicable. anything relating to children or women are even hated by the inmates (such as child abuse or wife beating or rape) respectable crimes are like bank robbery and such. Funny isn’t it
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Posted 07 July 2005 - 02:10 PM

What he did was very wrong, but a life sentence for a 16 is too much.
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Posted 07 July 2005 - 02:28 PM

QUOTE (smallguy @ Jul 7 2005, 02:45 PM)
What he did was very wrong, but a life sentence for a 16 is too much.


i agree
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Posted 08 July 2005 - 12:31 AM

Whatever, this kid ruined someone's life. How about the emotional problems this lady is gonna have now.

"Eye for an eye"
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Posted 08 July 2005 - 09:02 AM

I’m sue ten years minimum in prison will scar and ruin his life. Especially after being raped everyday by MEN. Life for somebody so young is wrong
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Posted 08 July 2005 - 10:45 AM

Well for one, a life sentence doesn't mean life imprisonment where the kid is gonna die in jail. It means after 1 decade ( 10 years ) he will be eligable for parole. Are you saying that 10 years is too much? Cause this kid has a history of violent sexual behavior brought out in the article. Not only that but he kicked her ass pretty bad as well.

Rape is a serious crime and if anybody ever raped a family member or friend of mine they better hope they stay in jail for 10 years cause I would destroy that person if I saw them.
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Posted 08 July 2005 - 01:01 PM

A know that a life sentence doesn’t mean he’ll die in jail but he aint gonns get out in no 10 years either. I said (if you would have read my post before) that he should get 15 years with a chance for parole after 10. I think 10-15 years is a good amount of time for him. To me though it seems like it was more of the physical abuse that was worse. He beat the hell out of her to the point where it said she was covered in blood but as far as the raping goes he never penetrated her per say. The fact is he is young and we all made mistakes when we were teens (none as bad as that though) and apparently his history is blown out of proportion. 10-15 is a fit punishment for the crime. But then again if it was my girl or mother I would want the bastard dead so its more your point of view
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