NYJetsFan.com Forums: "kickoff Specialists"-yea Or Nay? - NYJetsFan.com Forums

Jump to content

Toggle shoutbox NYJETSFAN BANTER

Jets are doing jets related things also... THE KNICKS.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (18 May 2013 - 09:13 PM) NUEVA YORK
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 May 2013 - 11:05 PM) THE KNICKS
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 May 2013 - 11:09 PM) I hope that David Stern for his last NBA Finals as commish gets a Indiana/Memphis Finals.
SecondHandJets Icon : (19 May 2013 - 09:38 AM) Amen. Memphis/Indiana would be fun
Chaos Icon : (19 May 2013 - 09:56 AM) agreed. heat vs spurs would be too easy for $$$
Jetsman05 Icon : (19 May 2013 - 10:46 AM) haters in the houseee
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 May 2013 - 11:44 AM) Pavers aren't getting 46 ft attempts vs the heat
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 May 2013 - 11:45 AM) Heat win in 5
Jetsman05 Icon : (19 May 2013 - 12:04 PM) lmao
Jetsman05 Icon : (19 May 2013 - 12:05 PM) Pacers thrive on getting to the line
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 May 2013 - 02:24 PM) Refs won't be on their side vs heat
Jetsman05 Icon : (19 May 2013 - 04:32 PM) the Pacers were far and away the better team against the Knicks
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 May 2013 - 05:01 PM) Not really
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 May 2013 - 05:40 PM) The Pacers FT attempts don't excuse J.R. Smith's disappearance in that series.
Jetsman05 Icon : (19 May 2013 - 06:05 PM) Not really haha
Jetsman05 Icon : (19 May 2013 - 06:05 PM) bitterness is a horrible trait
Jetsman05 Icon : (19 May 2013 - 06:05 PM) the Knicks offense was a pathetic joke
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (19 May 2013 - 07:33 PM) THE. KNICKS.
Jetsman05 Icon : (19 May 2013 - 07:43 PM) ^
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 May 2013 - 08:14 PM) Jr really disappointed, thought he turned the corner.
Jetsman05 Icon : (19 May 2013 - 09:03 PM) only corner he turns is into the clubbbb
santana Icon : (20 May 2013 - 09:45 AM) Ohhhh snap
MikeGangGree... Icon : (20 May 2013 - 03:10 PM) THE KNICKS!!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (20 May 2013 - 09:39 PM) DAAAAAAAAAAA YANKEES WIN!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:25 AM) Marty Mornhinweg says starting QB could be announced before training camp to maximize starters reps in camp.
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 12:01 PM) Anyword on who will be doing hard knocks this year?
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 12:13 PM) Who's going to be doing hard knocks you ask?
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 12:14 PM) THE KNICKS
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 01:28 PM) ^I agree
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 02:09 PM) Them Knicks
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:58 PM) just won tickets to Man City vs. Chelsea thanks to the lovely people at NY Daily News
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:46 PM) sounds like a terrible time
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:19 PM) lol smh
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:19 PM) Victor Moses, Demba Ba, Petr Cech and David Luiz are coming to my job on my day off...terrible
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:19 PM) only time I'd come to work on my day off ever
santana Icon : (Today, 10:04 AM) Sounds like a terrible time derpa derpa derp Indonesia <3 Liverpool top lads
Chaos Icon : (Today, 11:08 AM) sanchez has thrown 3 picks so far smh
Mr_Jet Icon : (Today, 11:33 AM) It must be November already.
santana Icon : (Today, 12:26 PM) better he throws them all now then later i guess
santana Icon : (Today, 12:27 PM) unless that west coast offense is going right over his head
SecondHandJets Icon : (Today, 12:49 PM) https://twitter.com/AZCardinals/status/337250560615014401
santana Icon : (Today, 12:53 PM) I hate change
SecondHandJets Icon : (Today, 01:04 PM) http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/niners/2013/05/22/49ers-receiver-michael-crabtree-torn-achilles/2350547/
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 04:03 PM) does santana honestly contribute anything to this site?
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 04:03 PM) I actually wish Dubb would come back
Resize Shouts Area

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • This topic is locked

"kickoff Specialists"-yea Or Nay?

#1 User is offline   kelticwizard Icon

  • Line Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 994
  • Joined: 02-November 05

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 11 May 2007 - 10:51 AM

Would a team with a really, really good field goal kicker, like the Jets as well as others, be smart to hire a guy who does only kickoffs?

I'm not talking about a guy who also does long field goals, like 50+ yards and kickoffs, while a more accurate kicker handles filed goals 49 yards or less. Some teams have that arrangement. I mean a guy who isn't there to kick field goals at all, just do kickoffs.

As you can see, in most cases field goal kickers tend to be average size guys or smaller. Even the few "long range plus kickoff" players we see are essentially people who started out trying to kick field goals and who were not so good at that, but had the ability to do kickoffs better than the others.

I have also seen large linemen who kicked in high school be used for kickoffs, on the principle that the larger and heavier the leg doing the kicking, the farther the football goes, (all other things being equal). It didn't work out, because the lineman did not have very good technique. In other words, all other things were not equal, in those cases.

I am talking about a true kickoff specialist. A large guy who has no interest or ability to kick field goals, but who, when given 10 steps or more to run up to the tee, will kick that thing way outta the end zone.

Our field goal kickers now are average sized guys selected primarily to accurately kick field goals. Some get better depth on their kickoffs than others. Open up a roster spot for kickoff specialists, and watch those kickoffs boom.

Of course, as one team does this and experiences success, other teams will follow and eventually the league will move back the line where the ball is kicked, so there will be kickoff returns. But that will take years. In the intervening years, the first team or two who gets the kickoff specialist will have an advantage over other teams.

Large, strong legged people are out there physically capable of propelling the ball a long ways, as long as they can run up to the ball. The team which realizes this, and couples such a player with a truly accurate field goal specialist, gives itself "a leg up" on the rest of the league.
0

#2 User is offline   Greenseed3 Icon

  • Free Agent
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 13
  • Joined: 10-May 07

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 11 May 2007 - 12:03 PM

I dont know. That'd be three kickers on a 53-man roster. Granted, if it's going to work for any team, it's likely to work for a team that has been high on collecting "versatile" players. Having sub-players that can play multiple positions gives us the freedom to consider such a move... but I like our coverage team on kick-offs. I'm not sure a touch-back is worth the roster spot when its an eight yard difference with Nugent kicking. If Nuge can add five yards to his kick-off power I think we'll be set.
0

#3 User is offline   SignalZero Icon

  • User
  • Icon
  • View blog
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 4,768
  • Joined: 30-March 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:South Florida
  • Interests:Former Site Admin/Publisher
    NYJetsFan.com

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 11 May 2007 - 01:28 PM

I'm all for getting a kickoff specialist. If we can get a guy that can put it through the endzone it eliminates players like Hester or Miller from a back breaking return. Plus it would put the opponents average start at the 20 instead of 35-40.
0

#4 User is offline   cmart=the best Icon

  • LB Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 1,342
  • Joined: 26-August 06
  • Gender:Male

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 11 May 2007 - 03:38 PM

We should definatley get a kickoff specialist that was our weakest point on special teams last year ( not getting kicks deep enough) Maybe thats why Mangini brought in that other kicker

0

#5 User is offline   Smedsthejet Icon

  • Assistant Head Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Moderator
  • Posts: 8,165
  • Joined: 10-April 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:London, England

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 11 May 2007 - 04:07 PM

QUOTE (cmart=the best @ May 11 2007, 09:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We should definatley get a kickoff specialist that was our weakest point on special teams last year ( not getting kicks deep enough) Maybe thats why Mangini brought in that other kicker


I'd only be for bringing one in if Nugent can't add a couple more yards to his kickoffs. If he can add a bit of strength then I'd rather we have more depth at other positions as they are likely to make more of a contribution overall than a kickoff specialist, for example a STs gem who is great in kick coverage.
0

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • This topic is locked

1 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users