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MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) good
MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (23 September 2016 - 03:55 PM) updated roster. FB howsare released, TE bowman added to roster
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 06:27 PM

i think we should draft him if we can, think about it, we've all been saying we need a NT, i would had said this earlier but wasnt sure if he was gonna be in the draft or not, i mean i like him cause hes from michigan but hes also nice as hell, and hes BIG, what do u guys think, u think we'll have a shot at drafting him
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 06:31 PM

Well he's ranked 7th on Mel Kiper's big board. So I'm gonna guess not...
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 06:45 PM

i wish, but he is a top 10 pick anyway you look at it.

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Posted 16 January 2007 - 06:59 PM

probably a top 5 pick....but we would have to unload some picks and trade for the position to get him which im not in favor of. we have a 1st and a really high 2nd and another decent 2nd pick. Id rather have 3 players....

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Posted 16 January 2007 - 07:04 PM

We all wish!
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 07:11 PM

i know i might be wrong but who really needs a NT that bad before us, i say i might be wrong cause im not really sure of the draft order
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 07:18 PM

Thing is...he isn't really a NT. Plenty of teams will take him to be a dominant DT in any system. I know he has plenty of size to be a NT. But he isn't really a space eaterand would best utilized as a DE in the 3-4. It's scary to think how good Alan Branch could be as a DE in the 3-4. And while I'm sure he could play NT...it wouldn't be worth trading up that far to put him in an unnatural position...

Actually...I've heard some rumblings that Branch might start dropping because he isn't really a run stopper...and isn't really a fantastic pass rusher...plus he doesn't even have anything noteworthy in the stat column. I try not to look at stats...but put it all together he may end up a mid first rounder. Problem is...there isn't another DT who could really beat him out for first DT taken...so I suppose he stays Top 10.

If he did fall...for whatever reason...I think he'd be a good pickup...but as a DE. Hell...I might be willing to give up my Marshawn Lynch man crush if Branch fell...haha. But it won't happen...so the man love continues...
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 07:36 PM

i've been asking for this guys since day one but i doubt we'd land him, all the other team that goes ahead of us will most likely look to get him
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 09:17 PM

well if we cant get this guy and we dont get a RB this year, MIKE HART IN 08!
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Posted 16 January 2007 - 10:05 PM

the more and more i see the patriots on tv or read about them, the more i want a player like seymour on our team. lets hope your right and his stock does drop and we somehow pick him up. he has the potential to be better than seymour.

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Posted 16 January 2007 - 10:19 PM

QUOTE (penningtonpays @ Jan 16 2007, 10:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
the more and more i see the patriots on tv or read about them, the more i want a player like seymour on our team. lets hope your right and his stock does drop and we somehow pick him up. he has the potential to be better than seymour.


That's the truth right there!
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Posted 17 January 2007 - 08:03 AM

i hate to burst the bubble but we already have a guy just as good as seymour in 2006

Shaun Ellis ---------------------Richard Seymour
tackles-58 ---------------- tackles-40
solo-37 --------------------- solo-22
asst-21---------------------- asst-18
sacks-5 ----------------------- sacks-4
pass Def-3 ------------------- pass Def-7
int- 0 ---------------------------- int-1
ff-1 --------------------------- ff-0
fumblerec-0 ---------------------- fumblegarec-1
games-16 ----------------------- games-16




Shaun ellis had just as good if not better numbers than seymour in the same number of games and this is his first year in a 3-4....we can hate on him because he wont be the 10 sack guy he was in herm's scheme but i give him alot of credit because most high paid defensive ends like abraham or strahan would of cried and asked for a trade because their stats would drop but he played his ass off. But hey i would take both guys in a heart beat.


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Posted 17 January 2007 - 08:11 AM

QUOTE (tipceey @ Jan 17 2007, 08:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i hate to burst the bubble but we already have a guy just as good as seymour

Shaun Ellis Richard Seymour
tackles-58 ---------------- tackles-40
solo-37 --------------------- solo-22
asst-21 asst-18
sacks-5 sacks-4
pass Def-3 pass Def-7
int- 0 int-1
ff-1 ff-0
fumblerec-0 fumblegarec-1
games-16 games-16
Shaun ellis had just as good if not better numbers than seymour in the same number of games and this is his first year in a 3-4....we can hate on him because he wont be the 10 sack guy he was in herm's scheme but i give him alot of credit because most high paid defensive ends like abraham or strahan would of cried and asked for a trade because their stats would drop but he played his ass off. But hey i would take both guys in a heart beat.
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wow! That is eye opening. I thought that ELIS had a quiet year. The guy actually had a very nice season!
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Posted 17 January 2007 - 11:02 AM

QUOTE (tipceey @ Jan 17 2007, 08:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i hate to burst the bubble but we already have a guy just as good as seymour in 2006

Shaun Ellis ---------------------Richard Seymour
tackles-58 ---------------- tackles-40
solo-37 --------------------- solo-22
asst-21---------------------- asst-18
sacks-5 ----------------------- sacks-4
pass Def-3 ------------------- pass Def-7
int- 0 ---------------------------- int-1
ff-1 --------------------------- ff-0
fumblerec-0 ---------------------- fumblegarec-1
games-16 ----------------------- games-16
Shaun ellis had just as good if not better numbers than seymour in the same number of games and this is his first year in a 3-4....we can hate on him because he wont be the 10 sack guy he was in herm's scheme but i give him alot of credit because most high paid defensive ends like abraham or strahan would of cried and asked for a trade because their stats would drop but he played his ass off. But hey i would take both guys in a heart beat.
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Do me a favor and burn the stat book...

Stats will never show what a defensive linemen does in the 3-4. Shaun Ellis didn't control the line of scrimmage the way Seymour did. Ellis did a good job, no doubt, but he is part of the run defense problem...not the biggest part, obviously, but a part of it.
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Posted 17 January 2007 - 11:49 AM

QUOTE (JetsMan4012 @ Jan 17 2007, 12:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i know i might be wrong but who really needs a NT that bad before us, i say i might be wrong cause im not really sure of the draft order


Thing is one team in the top 15 who doesn't neccessarilly require a NT will take him simply because of his talent. Last year Carolina had DeShaun Foster on their roster but that didn't stop them taking DeAngelo Williams same with the Saints and Bush as they had McAllister although passing on Bush would have been a mistake (isn't that right Texans?).

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 17 2007, 04:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do me a favor and burn the stat book...

Stats will never show what a defensive linemen does in the 3-4. Shaun Ellis didn't control the line of scrimmage the way Seymour did. Ellis did a good job, no doubt, but he is part of the run defense problem...not the biggest part, obviously, but a part of it.


Exactly. Seymour would have commanded more double teams than Ellis did simply because of his reputation around the league as one of the best DEs in the league.
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Posted 17 January 2007 - 12:40 PM

in all honesty id rather have Lamar Woodley to play DE instead of Branch, Woodley could play that OLB/DE pos that thomas plays. seriously anyone else watch michigan play this guy is a monster
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Posted 17 January 2007 - 12:54 PM

I could be wrong, but I don't think Woodley would play DE in the 3-4. He's 6-2 and 268 lbs. Compare that to Bryan Thomas who is 6-4 and 266 lbs. Woodley is the perfect size for an OLB in the 3-4, assuming he's fast enough.
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Posted 17 January 2007 - 01:09 PM

QUOTE (VaNDelaYInDusTrIEs @ Jan 17 2007, 01:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I could be wrong, but I don't think Woodley would play DE in the 3-4. He's 6-2 and 268 lbs. Compare that to Bryan Thomas who is 6-4 and 266 lbs. Woodley is the perfect size for an OLB in the 3-4, assuming he's fast enough.


yes he would be an OLB
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Posted 17 January 2007 - 01:35 PM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 17 2007, 11:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do me a favor and burn the stat book...

Stats will never show what a defensive linemen does in the 3-4. Shaun Ellis didn't control the line of scrimmage the way Seymour did. Ellis did a good job, no doubt, but he is part of the run defense problem...not the biggest part, obviously, but a part of it.


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RIGHT ON THE MONEY!!! Ellis is no seymor...bottom line.

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Posted 17 January 2007 - 07:24 PM

QUOTE (VILMAmazing51 @ Jan 17 2007, 02:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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RIGHT ON THE MONEY!!! Ellis is no seymor...bottom line.



You cant fault ellis for a couple of reasons the biggest of which was the lack of a NT....Of all the 3-4's in the league we are the only one that doesnt have a real NT. Teams could collapse 2 or 3 blockers on him because he was the only guy on the line causing any disruption......Robertson had an OK year but his mobility is seriously limited by a degenerative knee condition which alot of pro's think might end his career earlier than expected and Kimo as we all know is awful and shouldnt have been starting on an nfl roster last year. Give him Wilfork and ty warren type players and another year in the 3-4 system and we'll see who the most dominant DE in the 3-4 really is. I'll admit that the numbers dont tell the whole truth but if it wasnt for Ellis getting blocks collapsed on him the way they did the sacks that rhodes and thomas got wouldnt be there.....he basically was the NT because he occupied the space.......another thing is this was his first year in the 3-4 so i think he deserves credit for putting up numbers and not gripes about a change in philosophy which pretty much an high paid DE in the league would have done.........numbers may not tell the whole truth but they dont lie either
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