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ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
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The O-line Is The Problem......... BOTTOM LINE.......

#1 User is offline   jetman2327 Icon

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Posted 03 October 2005 - 05:54 PM

BOTTOM LINE IS....THE OFFENSIVE LINE IS THE PROBLEM. I DONT CARE WHAT QUARTERBACK U HAVE IN THERE THEY ARE GOING TO BE RUNNING FOR THEY'RE LIFE. I THINK VINNY MAY DO WORSE CAUSE HE CANT MOVE. IF YOU WATCHED THE GAMES CHAD WAS RUNNING FOR HIS LIFE. GOOD THING BROOKS CAN RUN OR HE WOULD HAVE BEEN SACKED 20 TIMES. CURTIS MARTIN IS NOT THAT BAD. NO WAY HE AGED THAT MUCH IN 6 MONTHS. GET RID OF FABINI, KENDALL, AND ADRIAN JONES. THEY ARE TERRIBLE. WATCH THE GAMES IF U DONT BELIEVE ME. ANYWAY GUYS WE HAVE WEAPONS BUT THE LINE IS IN TROUBLE. IF WE DONT DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT NOW WE WILL NOT WIN ANY GAMES AND IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE ARE GOING TO DO SOMETHING ANYTIME SOON. ITS A SAD SAD DAY.
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Posted 03 October 2005 - 05:58 PM

What else can I say other then, pass on Leinart, and Reggie Bush and draft D'Brickshaw Ferguson, guys like him do not come very often, so I'd want him on the Jets.
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Posted 03 October 2005 - 06:30 PM

Here's my plan for the draft:
First round- Running back
Second round- Offensive lineman
Third round- Quarterback.
But yeah, don't blame chad and Curtis for all of it, put some square on our line's.
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Posted 03 October 2005 - 06:37 PM

QUOTE (Chadforpresidentin08 @ Oct 4 2005, 12:05 AM)
Here's my plan for the draft:
First round- Running back
Second round- Offensive lineman
Third round- Quarterback.
But yeah, don't blame chad and Curtis for all of it, put some square on our line's.


Mine goes a little different

1st - OL
2nd - RB
3rd - QB

But pretty much the same thing in a different order. I never thought I would ever want us to get an offensive lineman so badly, in the first round.

I am not blaming Chad, in fact I am expecting him to be back next season. Curtis too, for another year or two.

I am sorry, but you just do not pass on good Offensive Lineman these days anymore, because only 1 a year that are something come out, and what are the chances that you can get them, well we got a chance to get D'Brickshaw Ferguson and thats who we should draft, this guy is a monster, trust me!
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Posted 03 October 2005 - 06:46 PM

The O-Line is definitely the biggest part of our problem. If they were better, we would not be on our 3rd string QB.. It's amazing that last season they led the way for the NFL's leading rusher and helped our QB lead our team to a missed FG away from the AFC championship game. I don't think there is anything that we can do this year other than schemes and stunts. Next year our #1` must be a monster offensive lineman. Without him, what good would it be to draft a RB or QB first. The OL must be a solid unit before you can run or pass.
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QUOTE (ANEWERA @ Oct 4 2005, 12:21 AM)
The O-Line is definitely the biggest part of our problem.  If they were better, we would not be on our 3rd string QB.. It's amazing that last season they led the way for the NFL's leading rusher and helped our QB lead our team to a missed FG away from the AFC championship game.  I don't think there is anything that we can do this year other than schemes and stunts.  Next year our #1` must be a monster offensive lineman.  Without him, what good would it be to draft a RB or QB first.  The OL must be a solid unit before you can run or pass.


Every thing you said about the offensive lineman describes D'Brickshaw Ferguson. I want this guy in a Jets jersey next year.
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Posted 03 October 2005 - 06:55 PM

jetman2327 you are so right the oline sucks, i had that feeling the oline was going to be a problem going into the season. the jets managment took the oline for granted and it shows. chad would have done better with good protection, the jets qb's are getting killed and curtis has no room to run .all you jets fan wake up it's not all chad or herm or curtis or the receivers falt, with out protection the jets offence can't do sh#t. curtis said it rite , it doesnt matter who the qb is it till wont get better.
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Posted 03 October 2005 - 07:01 PM

once i saw this topic i said to myself thats cpt. obvisous we need OT first round no matter what its a most than RB in the 2nd than 3rd another O line

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Posted 03 October 2005 - 07:38 PM

QUOTE (jetman2327 @ Oct 3 2005, 06:29 PM)
BOTTOM LINE IS....THE OFFENSIVE LINE IS THE PROBLEM. I DONT CARE WHAT QUARTERBACK U HAVE IN THERE THEY ARE GOING TO BE RUNNING FOR THEY'RE LIFE. I THINK VINNY MAY DO WORSE CAUSE HE CANT MOVE. IF YOU WATCHED THE GAMES CHAD WAS RUNNING FOR HIS LIFE. GOOD THING BROOKS CAN RUN OR HE WOULD HAVE BEEN SACKED 20 TIMES. CURTIS MARTIN IS NOT THAT BAD. NO WAY HE AGED THAT MUCH IN 6 MONTHS. GET RID OF FABINI, KENDALL, AND ADRIAN JONES. THEY ARE TERRIBLE. WATCH THE GAMES IF U DONT BELIEVE ME. ANYWAY GUYS WE HAVE WEAPONS BUT THE LINE IS IN TROUBLE. IF WE DONT DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT NOW WE WILL NOT WIN ANY GAMES AND IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE ARE GOING TO DO SOMETHING ANYTIME SOON. ITS A SAD SAD DAY.

I agree with some of what you said. yeah the oline has not played great but it hasn't been just them. chad has held on to the ball too long and so did brooks yesterday. they gave them time and they just kept the ball too long. our oline is not built to hold people that long. and curtis has not been good either. on the plays sunday when we were on the 1 yard line the first time. curtis ran right into the back of the offensive lineman when he could have hit the hole. you say that theres no way that curtis has got that bad in 6 months. well I can say the same thing about the oline. there's no way fabini mawae kendal and moore got that bad in 6 months. curtis is done. time to move on. no one wants to admit it but its true. the only reason he did so well last year was because the oline was amazing and brickhand becht was a good blocker. McKenzie helped also. so the oline isn't the whole problem. QB's stop holding the ball. curtis has his own issues.
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Posted 04 October 2005 - 08:44 AM

fabini sucked last year too. and we had becht helong out and he was a really good blocker
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Posted 04 October 2005 - 06:55 PM

even if fabini sucked last year. curtis still ran for 1600. so if he sucks this year why is he rushing for 30
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Posted 04 October 2005 - 07:01 PM

Fabini didn't suck last year, he actually played pretty solid on that line. The year before he was terrible though.
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Posted 04 October 2005 - 07:02 PM

theres nothing we can do about it now, just gotta tough it out this year and make the best of it and adress the LINE early and often next off season

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Posted 04 October 2005 - 07:03 PM

and im talking early as if dbrick n leinart is still on the board take dbrick

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QUOTE (triple3s @ Oct 4 2005, 06:30 PM)
even if fabini sucked last year. curtis still ran for 1600. so if he sucks this year why is he rushing for 30

Because we changed offenses? Because we let our best blocking TE go and signed a below average one? Because of troubles at QB? Because of a lost LT?

Or yes, Martin is just too old. Maybe he would play better in a motorized wheelchair...
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Posted 04 October 2005 - 07:05 PM

i dont see how he improved his speed in the off season either

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Posted 04 October 2005 - 07:45 PM

wait u guys have to be *beep*in kiddin me? the o lin eis the problem? def not. there fine. the only prob is that the temas were facing can afford to put 8 or 9 men in the box because they know our qbs cant throw downfeild!!!

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Posted 04 October 2005 - 07:50 PM

it doesnt help our oline rolling all over ther field like there in dandy lion heaven

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Posted 04 October 2005 - 08:10 PM

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BOTTOM LINE IS....THE OFFENSIVE LINE IS THE PROBLEM. I DONT CARE WHAT QUARTERBACK U HAVE IN THERE THEY ARE GOING TO BE RUNNING FOR THEY'RE LIFE. I THINK VINNY MAY DO WORSE CAUSE HE CANT MOVE. IF YOU WATCHED THE GAMES CHAD WAS RUNNING FOR HIS LIFE. GOOD THING BROOKS CAN RUN OR HE WOULD HAVE BEEN SACKED 20 TIMES. CURTIS MARTIN IS NOT THAT BAD. NO WAY HE AGED THAT MUCH IN 6 MONTHS. GET RID OF FABINI, KENDALL, AND ADRIAN JONES. THEY ARE TERRIBLE. WATCH THE GAMES IF U DONT BELIEVE ME. ANYWAY GUYS WE HAVE WEAPONS BUT THE LINE IS IN TROUBLE. IF WE DONT DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT NOW WE WILL NOT WIN ANY GAMES AND IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE ARE GOING TO DO SOMETHING ANYTIME SOON. ITS A SAD SAD DAY.


great post. i especially agree with the "CURTIS MARTIN IS NOT THAT BAD. NO WAY HE AGED THAT MUCH IN 6 MONTHS."

i hope that chad can return and start next year. it will help us with the cap and with the amount of players we'll need to draft. if chad can return we wont need a qb. i think we should get the best olineman out there in the first and maybe even the second. just get it over with so we don't have to *beep* around anymore.

if you guys want to see a good oline then watch the eagles oline at work. a guy named andrews is their right guard and he was picked up by the eagles in the first round of the '04 draft. someone fell on his leg the first game of last season so he was out last year but this year he's unbelievable. i was watching the eagles/niners game and i couldn't believe what i saw. usually the 4 dlineman go up against the ots and guards. andrews is so good that the niner dline didn't even bother trying to rush him the whole game. the left de and left dt of the niners kept on rushing the right ot and the center of the eagles leaving andrews alone to look for someone to block. this happened just about every play too. when you have that strong of an oline the defense wont even try to blitz. they know that their time is better spent trying to disrupt the pass at the reciever and not the qb. i think that mawae and moore are the only guys that are playing top notch ball at this point. people blitz us so much because we cant stop them. if we could stop them we would burn them downfield and then they'd stop doing it so much.
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Posted 04 October 2005 - 10:34 PM

the problem is that the jets did horrible in the draft. instead of getting adam terry they got nugent. and nugent slips and falls on 30 yard field goal attempts. and also he kicks kickoffs to the 20 yard line. and he kicks them out of bounds
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