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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 02 January 2007 - 04:18 PM

If Boise State's win over Oklahoma last night isnt proof that college football needs a playoff system then I dont know what needs to happen for the idiots at the NCAA to take an interest.

They went 13-0, beat one of the big boys, but since they played in a shit conference, they dont deserve a chance? That's ridiculous. Give the guys a shot to win it, make a playoff. I dont care if they get smashed in the next round, atleast they would have had a chance instead of being told they cant do it simply because of the conference they play in.

What if they did something like that in college basketball? Example: "George Mason? What conference are you in? HAHAHAHA You have no chance. You're out, UCONN gets to go to the Final Four. Sorry."

Point is, they got a shot, and they took it. And College football should be like that as well, I dont care what conference youre in, if youre undefeated, I think you atleast deserve a playoff shot to go for the championship.

Further more, whats the problem with a playoff system instead of having the Why-watch? Bowl or the I-Dont-Care Bowl? You can still have the major bowls in the playoff system can you not? Just make all the games from ever round at a neutral site and call it a bowl...you'll still make your money.
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Posted 02 January 2007 - 04:49 PM

yeah they are discussing this on jim rome right now. playoffs should be standard. i cant seem to get interested in college ball but that was a really good game.
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Posted 02 January 2007 - 07:44 PM

Getting off my playoff argument. WOW. That was probably the best, most exciting, most heartwarming football game I have ever seen. It seemed like Boise State let it go, then boom, the hook & latteral gets them the tying score. It seemed like Oklahoma won in over time then boom. BSU converted on 4th and 2 for the score. And then they went for 2, and boom, the statue of liberty play wins it for David. They slay Goliath. And after its all said and done, probably the most tear jerking moment on the sidelines happened when Ian Johnson proposed to his girlfriend. It was a perfect night for Boise State and unless you go to Oklahoma or are an extremely intense fan of them...if you werent happy about that night, you really dont have a heart.
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Posted 02 January 2007 - 08:48 PM

I fell asleep in the 3rd quarter. I had to watch the highlights. A hook and latteral and the statue of liberty all in the same game. A playoff system is the only way to go. Look what it did to college b-ball with March Madness.
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Posted 03 January 2007 - 06:38 AM

A playoff system is needed but at first I think all Division 1A conferences should be entitled to a shot at the BCS Championship not just the big name conferences such as the SEC, Big 10, Pac 10 etc. I mean the ACC was garbage this year and this was shown by the fact Miami only just beat Nevada in their bowl game.

With 11 conferences in Division 1A what should happen is the conference champions go in to a tournament plus, to factor in in the Independents, there should be 1 at large berth for another team (which doesn't have to be an independent) to make it a 12 team tournament. I know this would deny some powerhouse teams a shot and would put some poor teams into the playoff such as the Sun Belt winner but the only way these teams can be given the chance to compete with the big conferences is by putting them up against better competition and into bowls where the prize money is greater.
You would still have the rankings but these would be less important and would only determine the seedings. The top 4 ranked teams would each get a bye in the first round (similar to the NFL) with the #1 team at the top of the bracket for the 2nd round and the #2 team at the bottom of the bracket.

This is how it would probably work:

Round 1:

Game 1 - #12 team (at-large berth, not conference champ) vs #5
Game 2 - #11 team vs #6
Game 3 - #10 team vs #7
Game 4 - #9 team vs #8

Round 2:

Game 5 - winner game 1 vs #1 team
Game 6 - winner game 4 vs #4 team
Game 7 - winner game 3 vs #3 team
Game 8 - winner game 2 vs #2 team

Semi-Finals

Winner game 5 vs Winner game 6
Winner game 7 vs Winner game 8

National Championship - two semi final winners

With this system you would still get great matchups not only in the playoffs, but throughout the bowl system IMO as some 'powerhouse' teams wouldn't have made it and so would be left to fill the other bowls.
The biggest flaw is though that teams may play up to 15/16 game seasons if they make it to the national championship whilst you may get similar conference champions still every year but it would certainly make the other conferences stronger in my eyes.
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Posted 05 January 2007 - 01:08 AM

it will never happen ever.

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