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Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
santana Icon : (24 April 2015 - 11:32 PM) TEH WIZ
Jetsman05 Icon : (26 April 2015 - 06:57 AM) Teh Suarez
Jetsman05 Icon : (26 April 2015 - 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (26 April 2015 - 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (26 April 2015 - 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
Jetsman05 Icon : (26 April 2015 - 07:00 AM) Until next time fellas!
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Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:37 PM) Missouri edge rusher Shane Ray was arrested Monday morning for possession of marijuana in Cooper County, Missouri, Brandon Kiley of KTGR in Columbia, Missouri reports.
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Posted 19 November 2008 - 08:56 AM

Challange for the Jets is Psychological- NY Times

By WILLIAM C. RHODEN
The night before the Jets’ monster win at New England, Ty Law, a day into his Jets tenure, stood before his new teammates and told them what the Patriots thought of them. It was an eye-opening perspective from someone who knew.

Law spent 10 seasons with New England, 1995-2004, winning three Super Bowl rings and often putting himself on the delivering end of knockout blows that either derailed the Jets or sent them deeper into the abyss.

“The message I gave to the guys last night was — and I used the word we — was that we thought that if we played you guys in the fourth quarter and if we kept it tight, no matter what happened, y’all were going to find a way to lose,” Law said.

“We felt we had the psychological advantage on you, that no matter what the case was, no matter who was out on the field, we knew if we played the Jets they’re going to find a way to lose and we were going to find a way to win, and that’s just the mentality. I told them you have to go out there and take it, because they’re not going to give you anything.”

Law was nearly responsible for letting Thursday night’s game become another Jets nightmare. After playing brilliantly, mostly against Randy Moss, Law was beaten when Moss made a stellar catch in the end zone with one second left in regulation.

Shaun Ellis, the defensive end who has played all nine of his N.F.L. seasons with the Jets, said that when he saw Moss make the catch he reverted to “same old Jets” mode.

“Truthfully, what I thought was, Here we go again,” Ellis said. “We’ve been in that situation so many times with Brady ending up hurting you. Today, it just happened to be Cassel.”

The Jets never had the superior quarterback when Tom Brady, out for the season with a left knee injury, was leading the Patriots. The difference between past Jets collapses and their triumph Thursday night over Matt Cassel and New England is that now, with Brett Favre, they do.

“It’s more of a state of mind,” Law said. “We have so much talent in this room that if we can put it all together, there’s no telling what we can do.”

When the Patriots were on top of the league, bolstered by skilled veterans, they never played down to the level of inferior opponents. The Jets lost to a poor Oakland Raiders team on Oct. 19 and nearly lost to an even worse Kansas City Chiefs team a week later.

“When you are more talented, you have to play like the more talented team,” Law said.

“One thing we learned over in that other locker room,” he added, nodding in the direction of the Patriots, “is that we knew how to play above the competition. Even if we knew the competition was less, we expected to go out and prove that that other team was a lesser talent. When we played a talented team, we were going to play to our level. That’s what teams have to learn to do.”

The Giants have learned how to do that. Now it’s the Jets’ turn.

On Thursday night, the Jets were on the verge of breaking open the game. The Patriots made some adjustments, and the Jets might have pulled back emotionally.

“When they’re down, kick ’em,” Law said. “That’s what we have to learn here. We had them down like that, but we didn’t kick ’em. We didn’t do that tonight.”

The challenge of playing in New York is maintaining a sense of scale: every game is made into a mountain, into a defining moment. Jets Coach Eric Mangini, to his credit, often attempts to minimize the moment in a way that is reminiscent of Duane Thomas.

You normally wouldn’t pair Mangini, the 37-year-old coach, and Thomas, 61, the running back who, after the 1971 season, helped lead the Dallas Cowboys to their first Super Bowl victory and confounded the news media with stony silence — or cryptic messages, when he did speak. In fact, Thomas refused to speak with Cowboys players, coaches or management during that entire ’71 season.

His most famous line came during the buildup to Super Bowl VI, when a reporter asked him how it felt to play in the ultimate game. Thomas replied, “If it’s the ultimate game, why are they playing it again next year?”

Mangini doesn’t put things quite like that, but his daily message is that no one game is bigger than any other. The victory over the Patriots was huge, but it was not the ultimate. A loss would not have decimated the team, and the victory does not represent a sea change. A victory here does not validate the trade for Favre; the trade was validated the instant it was consummated because Favre is one of the greatest quarterbacks in N.F.L. history.

But beating a hobbled, Brady-less Patriots team in November is not all that is expected from Favre. He was brought in to help lead the Jets to their first Super Bowl championship in 40 seasons. That’s the difference between climbing a hill and scaling a mountain.

Meanwhile, the Jets must undergo an emotional transformation that will carry them from identifying with the league’s bottom feeders to identifying with the N.F.L. elite. This is not an easy task.

As Duane Thomas told the news media more than 30 years ago, as Eric Mangini says on a daily basis now and as Ty Law told the Jets on Wednesday, the ultimate is simply the next game.
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Posted 19 November 2008 - 03:10 PM

Thats one thing hopfully we learn... when you have crippled a beast you just don't walk away and turn your back. Pull out the machete and put it out of it's misery. Hopefully the Jets have learnt this in this past game in New England!
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